Pentax K30 Picture Leak & Discussion: Weather-sealed intro DSLR

Tonto · 05-23-2012, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by Welfl

UPDATE: I see by another thread that you already know about the following, illdefined. For anyone else who does not yet know, read on.

Well, it appears that B&H corrected their mistake. They are no longer (mistakenly) offering the 18-55 WR lens with the K-30.

Click here (it is the same for all three colors).

I had a bad feeling that you were right, illdefined.

Thats a bummer, oh well stores will enjoy upselling to WR lenses or the more expensive DA 18-135 bundle.

gazonk · 05-23-2012, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by Tonto

Thats a bummer, oh well stores will enjoy upselling to WR lenses or the more expensive DA 18-135 bundle.

At least they still have the 18-55WR+50-200WR and the 18-55WR+55-300 kits (and the 18-135 kit is attractively priced, IMHO).

Mistral75 · 05-24-2012, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by Djsajmy

Hm

K-5 Hi: 7 fps: up to approx. 26 frames (PEF/DNG) with firmware upgrade,
K-30 Hi: 6 fps (JPG, RAW not possible) ???

No RAW at 6 fps ? only at 2 fps ?

Originally posted by Anvh

K5 you got right.
K-30 is 6 fps up to 8 frames buffer with RAW only, according to Pentax.

You can use 3fps as well, then the buffer will be 10 frames, in those 3 seconds the camera process 2 frames more... not very impressive.

According to Digital Photography Review http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentax-k-30/:

"The K-30 can shoot at up to 6 frames per second (just shy of the the K-5's 7fps). This slower frame rate also allows the K-30 to offer slightly longer bursts of shots than the K-5; capturing up to of 30 JPEGs or 8 Raw files (which slightly edges the K-5's 26 JPEG/8 Raws)."

Kunzite · 05-24-2012, 07:25 AM - **1 Like**

From a K-5 owner (that would be me):
The K-5 can shoot over 20 frames in RAW, before filling its buffer and having to slow down. If you have firmware 1.01 or later.
And Pentax documented this, when they released firmware 1.01.

Anvh · 05-24-2012, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

According to Digital Photography Review http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentax-k-30/:

"The K-30 can shoot at up to 6 frames per second (just shy of the the K-5's 7fps). This slower frame rate also allows the K-30 to offer slightly longer bursts of shots than the K-5; capturing up to of 30 JPEGs or 8 Raw files (which slightly edges the K-5's 26 JPEG/8 Raws)."

Pentax K-5 Camera Performance - Full Review
Continuous mode Large/Premium JPEG 6.48 fps 31 frames total
Continuous mode RAW 6.45 fps 23 frames total

Pentax K-5 In-depth Review: Digital Photography Review
JPEG (4 star - highest quality): 6.3 - 7fps for 25 frames
RAW (DNG): 6.3 - 7 fps for 24 frames

More questions?

ogl · 05-24-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by Anvh

Pentax K-5 Camera Performance - Full Review
Continuous mode Large/Premium JPEG 6.48 fps 31 frames total
Continuous mode RAW 6.45 fps 23 frames total

Pentax K-5 In-depth Review: Digital Photography Review
JPEG (4 star - highest quality): 6.3 - 7fps for 25 frames
RAW (DNG): 6.3 - 7 fps for 24 frames

More questions?

K-30 has the same buffer as K-5 had before "buffer" firmware - 30 JPEG/8 RAW

Not bad.

K-5 is very slow to clear buffer to say honest. I hope K-30 will be faster. 20 RAW buffer is good...But work with SD card is not very fast in K-5.

Anvh · 05-24-2012, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by ogl

K-30 has the same buffer as K-5 had before "buffer" firmware - 30 JPEG/8 RAW

yes and no, the size in MB of the buffer of the K5 is much larger.
Don't get your hopes up that the K30 will get the same amount of shots in the buffer with a "simple" update.

yeah it's slow to clear but it's so large that it's not a problem.
I wonder if the K30 will be faster, so far it doesn't look positieve regarding RAW, for JPEG it certainly is super fast.

thibs · 05-24-2012, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

According to Digital Photography Review http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentax-k-30/:

"The K-30 can shoot at up to 6 frames per second (just shy of the the K-5's 7fps). This slower frame rate also allows the K-30 to offer slightly longer bursts of shots than the K-5; capturing up to of 30 JPEGs or 8 Raw files (which slightly edges the K-5's 26 JPEG/8 Raws)."

What a bunch of morons. Idiots. And trying to stay polite...

eddie1960 · 05-24-2012, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by thibs

What a bunch of morons. Idiots. And trying to stay polite...

It is dpreview, they screw up almost anything related to pentax

Djsajmy · 05-24-2012, 12:27 PM

This one is better

Pentax K-30 Camera - Hands-On Preview

magkelly · 05-24-2012, 01:05 PM

I love the bit where they're totally criticizing the video performance but then offhandedly say "But as a stills camera it still looks very promising." HELLO, the camera is made for that, still photography. That is it's primary function NOT shooting videos. The fact that it offers the ability to take short video clips, decent ones actually, is a rather nice bonus for some people. It is not more important than the camera doing still photography. No offense but I absolutely hate it when reviewers go there, even suggest a still camera lacks somehow because it's video capacity is secondary to it's stills capacity. It's a freaking DSLR not a video camera and if the video is THAT important to you then go buy a darned video cam and stop expecting a DSLR, a camera made primarily for still shots, to work miracles in terms of video performance. This camera is made to do maybe a 15 minute clip. That's it, period, and it shouldn't be expected to compete with hand held video cams. This obsession some people seem to have with making a DSLR into a full on video camera really annoys me....

ElJamoquio · 05-24-2012, 01:08 PM

There's a heavily-concentrated & vocal anti-video crowd in the Pentax community.

It's here for a reason.

Mrs. ElJamoquio HATED the video-priority of the EPL-1 or EPL-2 or whatever it was.

magkelly · 05-24-2012, 01:58 PM - **2 Likes**

I don't mind a camera having it. If you find it useful, use it. I don't need it, but I do realize I'm probably not speaking for a lot of people. But I don't think it's particularly fair to disparage a camera that is not really built for that because it's not got the capacity of a camera designated for that. Lately you see far too many reviewers focused on that so called lack and not on what they really should be focusing on. DSLR's are still cameras. Some of them have the ability to record a quick video clip, great, but they're not meant to film movies with. I don't really expect a video cam to take still pics quite the way a DSLR does. Just because I can grab a quick snap from one doesn't mean I am going to ditch my DSLR and run out and grab one. Pentax cameras are brilliant at doing what they are designed for, IMHO. Taking still pics. Video clip ability is just a perk. It should never take away from the main function of a still camera. So far as I can tell having it doesn't impact my ability to take still pics negatively. If it ever did? I'd be very unhappy about that.

ElJamoquio · 05-24-2012, 03:18 PM

The video feature for the EPL-1 was an ergonomic detraction from the ability to take good stills. I specifically "dis-want" a video button, as I *never* use it and don't want it to have the real-estate and chance of hitting it accidentally.

Of course that means dpreview will bitch about the camera not having a video button.

I didn't look that hard for it... but I was happy the K30 didn't have a red button.

thibs · 05-25-2012, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

The video feature for the EPL-1 was an ergonomic detraction from the ability to take good stills. I specifically "dis-want" a video button, as I *never* use it and don't want it to have the real-estate and chance of hitting it accidentally.

Of course that means dpreview will bitch about the camera not having a video button.

I didn't look that hard for it... but I was happy the K30 didn't have a red button.

Well, if assignable to anything useful, why would you care?

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05-23-2012, 11:01 PM	#1006
Tonto Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 969	Originally posted by Welfl UPDATE: I see by another thread that you already know about the following, illdefined. For anyone else who does not yet know, read on. Well, it appears that B&H corrected their mistake. They are no longer (mistakenly) offering the 18-55 WR lens with the K-30. Click here (it is the same for all three colors). I had a bad feeling that you were right, illdefined. Thats a bummer, oh well stores will enjoy upselling to WR lenses or the more expensive DA 18-135 bundle.

05-23-2012, 11:28 PM	#1007
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Tonto Thats a bummer, oh well stores will enjoy upselling to WR lenses or the more expensive DA 18-135 bundle. At least they still have the 18-55WR+50-200WR and the 18-55WR+55-300 kits (and the 18-135 kit is attractively priced, IMHO).

05-24-2012, 04:57 AM	#1008
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Djsajmy Hm K-5 Hi: 7 fps: up to approx. 26 frames (PEF/DNG) with firmware upgrade, K-30 Hi: 6 fps (JPG, RAW not possible) ??? No RAW at 6 fps ? only at 2 fps ? Originally posted by Anvh K5 you got right. K-30 is 6 fps up to 8 frames buffer with RAW only, according to Pentax. You can use 3fps as well, then the buffer will be 10 frames, in those 3 seconds the camera process 2 frames more... not very impressive. According to Digital Photography Review http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentax-k-30/: "The K-30 can shoot at up to 6 frames per second (just shy of the the K-5's 7fps). This slower frame rate also allows the K-30 to offer slightly longer bursts of shots than the K-5; capturing up to of 30 JPEGs or 8 Raw files (which slightly edges the K-5's 26 JPEG/8 Raws)."

05-24-2012, 07:25 AM - 1 Like	#1009
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	From a K-5 owner (that would be me): The K-5 can shoot over 20 frames in RAW, before filling its buffer and having to slow down. If you have firmware 1.01 or later. And Pentax documented this, when they released firmware 1.01.

05-24-2012, 09:37 AM	#1010
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	Originally posted by Mistral75 According to Digital Photography Review http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentax-k-30/: "The K-30 can shoot at up to 6 frames per second (just shy of the the K-5's 7fps). This slower frame rate also allows the K-30 to offer slightly longer bursts of shots than the K-5; capturing up to of 30 JPEGs or 8 Raw files (which slightly edges the K-5's 26 JPEG/8 Raws)." Pentax K-5 Camera Performance - Full Review Continuous mode Large/Premium JPEG 6.48 fps 31 frames total Continuous mode RAW 6.45 fps 23 frames total Pentax K-5 In-depth Review: Digital Photography Review JPEG (4 star - highest quality): 6.3 - 7fps for 25 frames RAW (DNG): 6.3 - 7 fps for 24 frames More questions?

05-24-2012, 10:07 AM	#1011
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Anvh Pentax K-5 Camera Performance - Full Review Continuous mode Large/Premium JPEG 6.48 fps 31 frames total Continuous mode RAW 6.45 fps 23 frames total Pentax K-5 In-depth Review: Digital Photography Review JPEG (4 star - highest quality): 6.3 - 7fps for 25 frames RAW (DNG): 6.3 - 7 fps for 24 frames More questions? K-30 has the same buffer as K-5 had before "buffer" firmware - 30 JPEG/8 RAW Not bad. K-5 is very slow to clear buffer to say honest. I hope K-30 will be faster. 20 RAW buffer is good...But work with SD card is not very fast in K-5.

05-24-2012, 10:17 AM	#1012
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	Originally posted by ogl K-30 has the same buffer as K-5 had before "buffer" firmware - 30 JPEG/8 RAW yes and no, the size in MB of the buffer of the K5 is much larger. Don't get your hopes up that the K30 will get the same amount of shots in the buffer with a "simple" update. yeah it's slow to clear but it's so large that it's not a problem. I wonder if the K30 will be faster, so far it doesn't look positieve regarding RAW, for JPEG it certainly is super fast.

05-24-2012, 10:20 AM	#1013
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Mistral75 According to Digital Photography Review http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentax-k-30/: "The K-30 can shoot at up to 6 frames per second (just shy of the the K-5's 7fps). This slower frame rate also allows the K-30 to offer slightly longer bursts of shots than the K-5; capturing up to of 30 JPEGs or 8 Raw files (which slightly edges the K-5's 26 JPEG/8 Raws)." What a bunch of morons. Idiots. And trying to stay polite...

05-24-2012, 12:25 PM	#1014
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by thibs What a bunch of morons. Idiots. And trying to stay polite... It is dpreview, they screw up almost anything related to pentax

05-24-2012, 12:27 PM	#1015
Djsajmy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 39	This one is better Pentax K-30 Camera - Hands-On Preview

05-24-2012, 01:05 PM	#1016
magkelly Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,901	I love the bit where they're totally criticizing the video performance but then offhandedly say "But as a stills camera it still looks very promising." HELLO, the camera is made for that, still photography. That is it's primary function NOT shooting videos. The fact that it offers the ability to take short video clips, decent ones actually, is a rather nice bonus for some people. It is not more important than the camera doing still photography. No offense but I absolutely hate it when reviewers go there, even suggest a still camera lacks somehow because it's video capacity is secondary to it's stills capacity. It's a freaking DSLR not a video camera and if the video is THAT important to you then go buy a darned video cam and stop expecting a DSLR, a camera made primarily for still shots, to work miracles in terms of video performance. This camera is made to do maybe a 15 minute clip. That's it, period, and it shouldn't be expected to compete with hand held video cams. This obsession some people seem to have with making a DSLR into a full on video camera really annoys me....

05-24-2012, 01:08 PM	#1017
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	There's a heavily-concentrated & vocal anti-video crowd in the Pentax community. It's here for a reason. Mrs. ElJamoquio HATED the video-priority of the EPL-1 or EPL-2 or whatever it was.

05-24-2012, 01:58 PM - 2 Likes	#1018
magkelly Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,901	I don't mind a camera having it. If you find it useful, use it. I don't need it, but I do realize I'm probably not speaking for a lot of people. But I don't think it's particularly fair to disparage a camera that is not really built for that because it's not got the capacity of a camera designated for that. Lately you see far too many reviewers focused on that so called lack and not on what they really should be focusing on. DSLR's are still cameras. Some of them have the ability to record a quick video clip, great, but they're not meant to film movies with. I don't really expect a video cam to take still pics quite the way a DSLR does. Just because I can grab a quick snap from one doesn't mean I am going to ditch my DSLR and run out and grab one. Pentax cameras are brilliant at doing what they are designed for, IMHO. Taking still pics. Video clip ability is just a perk. It should never take away from the main function of a still camera. So far as I can tell having it doesn't impact my ability to take still pics negatively. If it ever did? I'd be very unhappy about that.

05-24-2012, 03:18 PM	#1019
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	The video feature for the EPL-1 was an ergonomic detraction from the ability to take good stills. I specifically "dis-want" a video button, as I never use it and don't want it to have the real-estate and chance of hitting it accidentally. Of course that means dpreview will bitch about the camera not having a video button. I didn't look that hard for it... but I was happy the K30 didn't have a red button.

05-25-2012, 03:10 AM	#1020
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by ElJamoquio The video feature for the EPL-1 was an ergonomic detraction from the ability to take good stills. I specifically "dis-want" a video button, as I never use it and don't want it to have the real-estate and chance of hitting it accidentally. Of course that means dpreview will bitch about the camera not having a video button. I didn't look that hard for it... but I was happy the K30 didn't have a red button. Well, if assignable to anything useful, why would you care?