Pentax K30 Picture Leak & Discussion: Weather-sealed intro DSLR

**pentaximus** · 05-26-2012, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by zekewhipper

I think the new body texturing will go by the wayside when the successor to the K30 is introduced. Why? Bcause I am predicting complaints about all the holes and ribs being too difficult to keep clean.

A safe bet around here!

**monochrome** · 05-26-2012, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by pentaximus

A safe bet around here!

If one person makes three posts around here, will that = complaints?

**monochrome** · 05-26-2012, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by zekewhipper

I think the new body texturing will go by the wayside when the successor to the K30 is introduced. Why? Bcause I am predicting complaints about all the holes and ribs being too difficult to keep clean.

I think a side benefit of the WR seals is the camera is washable.

glanglois · 05-26-2012, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by ogl

Pentax Russia has another specs about speed and buffer of K-30

HI: 6 fps till 176 images(JPEG ***), 21 image (RAW)
LO: 3 fps till the card full (JPEG ***)

I'd vote for the ability to administer fps (in integer increments) up to a max rather than be limited to two choices, both of which may be less than optimum for the situation. For certain aerobatics, I'd be happy with four or five fps but I'm stuck with either two (IIRC) or seven. The slower fame rate allows me to follow the multiple aircraft longer just based on 24 raw/4 fps. If I picked up another second or two owing to buffer clearing, I'd be happier yet.

Vylen · 05-26-2012, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by zekewhipper

I think the new body texturing will go by the wayside when the successor to the K30 is introduced. Why? Bcause I am predicting complaints about all the holes and ribs being too difficult to keep clean.

I'm predicting people will suck it up and clean the damn camera themselves

**Fontan** · 05-26-2012, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by Vylen

I'm predicting people will suck it up and clean the damn camera themselves

I would have licked it clean if it was FF monochrome.

HawaiianOnline · 05-28-2012, 03:15 PM

Anybody seen any reports on the high ISO performance of this camera yet? I'd like to think that it will be at least as good as the K-5 or the K-01 since they seem to be in the same sensor family.

Anvh · 05-28-2012, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by HawaiianOnline

Anybody seen any reports on the high ISO performance of this camera yet? I'd like to think that it will be at least as good as the K-5 or the K-01 since they seem to be in the same sensor family.

K5 is better then the K-01 so there are certainly differences.
For now the best assumption is that the performance is the same as the K-01 since they share the same sensor and processor.

audiobomber · 05-28-2012, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by Anvh

K5 is better then the K-01 so there are certainly differences.
For now the best assumption is that the performance is the same as the K-01 since they share the same sensor and processor.

Looking at DXO for the K-5 and K-01, I see a significant difference in DR, but no significant difference in high ISO.

illdefined · 05-29-2012, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

If one person makes three posts around here, will that = complaints?

how many people does it take? just wondering

Anvh · 05-29-2012, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by audiobomber

Looking at DXO for the K-5 and K-01, I see a significant difference in DR, but no significant difference in high ISO.

High ISO is not the same as noise

ElJamoquio · 05-29-2012, 08:48 AM

DXO lists SNR for high iso.

audiobomber · 05-29-2012, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by HawaiianOnline

Anybody seen any reports on the high ISO performance of this camera yet? I'd like to think that it will be at least as good as the K-5 or the K-01 since they seem to be in the same sensor family.

Originally posted by Anvh

K5 is better then the K-01 so there are certainly differences.
For now the best assumption is that the performance is the same as the K-01 since they share the same sensor and processor.

Originally posted by audiobomber

Looking at DXO for the K-5 and K-01, I see a significant difference in DR, but no significant difference in high ISO.

HawaiianOnline was asking about high ISO noise. You said the K-5 is better than the K-01, which I disagreed with, citing High ISO tests at DXOMark.

Originally posted by Anvh

High ISO is not the same as noise

I didn't say noise, but that's what we were talking about, high ISO noise. The K-5 is not better than the K-01 and I expect the K-30D will match them.

Anvh · 05-29-2012, 10:13 AM

After ISO1600 it's indeed the same but after ISO1600 all the gains are done by the software from what i understand so if you shoot with ISO1600 and overexpose the photo in PP with 1 stop you will get the same result as ISO3200 but then without the smoothing and we see that with ISO1600 the DR is higher with the K5 then it is with the K30.

About noise, that's the same across the board so does that mean the K5 is not better at lower ISO's... this is so confusing.

frank · 05-29-2012, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by HawaiianOnline

Anybody seen any reports on the high ISO performance of this camera yet? I'd like to think that it will be at least as good as the K-5 or the K-01 since they seem to be in the same sensor family.

I've tried the K-30 (a pre-production unit) at ISO3200 and 6400, even in JPG the results are okay. But I'm sorry I can't post the results at the moment because they are, you know, not the final product...

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05-26-2012, 06:01 PM	#1036
pentaximus Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Covington, Georgia Photos: Gallery Posts: 926	Originally posted by zekewhipper I think the new body texturing will go by the wayside when the successor to the K30 is introduced. Why? Bcause I am predicting complaints about all the holes and ribs being too difficult to keep clean. A safe bet around here!

05-26-2012, 06:07 PM	#1037
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by pentaximus A safe bet around here! If one person makes three posts around here, will that = complaints?

05-26-2012, 06:08 PM	#1038
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by zekewhipper I think the new body texturing will go by the wayside when the successor to the K30 is introduced. Why? Bcause I am predicting complaints about all the holes and ribs being too difficult to keep clean. I think a side benefit of the WR seals is the camera is washable.

05-26-2012, 07:13 PM	#1039
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	Originally posted by ogl Pentax Russia has another specs about speed and buffer of K-30 HI: 6 fps till 176 images(JPEG *), 21 image (RAW) LO: 3 fps till the card full (JPEG *) I'd vote for the ability to administer fps (in integer increments) up to a max rather than be limited to two choices, both of which may be less than optimum for the situation. For certain aerobatics, I'd be happy with four or five fps but I'm stuck with either two (IIRC) or seven. The slower fame rate allows me to follow the multiple aircraft longer just based on 24 raw/4 fps. If I picked up another second or two owing to buffer clearing, I'd be happier yet.

05-26-2012, 07:45 PM	#1040
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Originally posted by zekewhipper I think the new body texturing will go by the wayside when the successor to the K30 is introduced. Why? Bcause I am predicting complaints about all the holes and ribs being too difficult to keep clean. I'm predicting people will suck it up and clean the damn camera themselves

05-26-2012, 09:04 PM	#1041
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Originally posted by Vylen I'm predicting people will suck it up and clean the damn camera themselves I would have licked it clean if it was FF monochrome.

05-28-2012, 03:15 PM	#1042
HawaiianOnline Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hawaii Posts: 613	Anybody seen any reports on the high ISO performance of this camera yet? I'd like to think that it will be at least as good as the K-5 or the K-01 since they seem to be in the same sensor family.

05-28-2012, 06:47 PM	#1043
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	Originally posted by HawaiianOnline Anybody seen any reports on the high ISO performance of this camera yet? I'd like to think that it will be at least as good as the K-5 or the K-01 since they seem to be in the same sensor family. K5 is better then the K-01 so there are certainly differences. For now the best assumption is that the performance is the same as the K-01 since they share the same sensor and processor.

05-28-2012, 07:20 PM	#1044
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by Anvh K5 is better then the K-01 so there are certainly differences. For now the best assumption is that the performance is the same as the K-01 since they share the same sensor and processor. Looking at DXO for the K-5 and K-01, I see a significant difference in DR, but no significant difference in high ISO.

05-29-2012, 07:51 AM	#1045
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	Originally posted by monochrome If one person makes three posts around here, will that = complaints? how many people does it take? just wondering

05-29-2012, 08:44 AM	#1046
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	Originally posted by audiobomber Looking at DXO for the K-5 and K-01, I see a significant difference in DR, but no significant difference in high ISO. High ISO is not the same as noise

05-29-2012, 08:48 AM	#1047
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	DXO lists SNR for high iso.

05-29-2012, 09:28 AM	#1048
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by HawaiianOnline Anybody seen any reports on the high ISO performance of this camera yet? I'd like to think that it will be at least as good as the K-5 or the K-01 since they seem to be in the same sensor family. Originally posted by Anvh K5 is better then the K-01 so there are certainly differences. For now the best assumption is that the performance is the same as the K-01 since they share the same sensor and processor. Originally posted by audiobomber Looking at DXO for the K-5 and K-01, I see a significant difference in DR, but no significant difference in high ISO. HawaiianOnline was asking about high ISO noise. You said the K-5 is better than the K-01, which I disagreed with, citing High ISO tests at DXOMark. Originally posted by Anvh High ISO is not the same as noise I didn't say noise, but that's what we were talking about, high ISO noise. The K-5 is not better than the K-01 and I expect the K-30D will match them.

05-29-2012, 10:13 AM	#1049
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	After ISO1600 it's indeed the same but after ISO1600 all the gains are done by the software from what i understand so if you shoot with ISO1600 and overexpose the photo in PP with 1 stop you will get the same result as ISO3200 but then without the smoothing and we see that with ISO1600 the DR is higher with the K5 then it is with the K30. About noise, that's the same across the board so does that mean the K5 is not better at lower ISO's... this is so confusing.

05-29-2012, 07:03 PM	#1050
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by HawaiianOnline Anybody seen any reports on the high ISO performance of this camera yet? I'd like to think that it will be at least as good as the K-5 or the K-01 since they seem to be in the same sensor family. I've tried the K-30 (a pre-production unit) at ISO3200 and 6400, even in JPG the results are okay. But I'm sorry I can't post the results at the moment because they are, you know, not the final product...