K30, K5n, K3 and maybe full-frame at Photokina...

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 05-18-2012, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by frankfanrui

A quote from the German DSLR forum:
translated:
"... 1.) the last K5s arrived from the Far East
2.) As of May, the K5n will be available (with articulated screen)
3.) As of July/summer there will be a K3

...and the big bang:
a truly professional DSLR (K1?) is due in autumn WITHOUT APSC (!)"

below is the original address, hope this is true although the possibility is low.

K30, K5n, K3 and maybe full-frame at Photokina...: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

Here comes the Pentax 4/3rd camera!???!?

What the heck do they mean with "without APS-C"?

Kunzite · 05-18-2012, 07:45 AM

How to make an APS-C-less camera:
1. make an APS-C camera
2. extract the APS-C sensor (use force if necessary)

Something like that

eddie1960 · 05-18-2012, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by Sinister

I am pretty sure there won't be a 24x36 Pentax any time soon...

Define anytime soon

if you mean the next 6 months there will not be one in stores I agree. But I would take a bet on it being in stores by next spring (and previewed before that)

D0n · 05-18-2012, 07:47 AM

either aps-c squared, or ff

Sinister · 05-18-2012, 07:58 AM

Originally posted by eddie1960

Define anytime soon

if you mean the next 6 months there will not be one in stores I agree. But I would take a bet on it being in stores by next spring (and previewed before that)

Good Point

I just don't expect an announcement this year, though I'd hope for one... whoever wants or thinks he needs FF, should take the corresponding decisions - that's what I am going to do.

Anvh · 05-18-2012, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by frankfanrui

A quote from the German DSLR forum:
translated:
"... 1.) the last K5s arrived from the Far East
2.) As of May, the K5n will be available (with articulated screen)
3.) As of July/summer there will be a K3

...and the big bang:

a truly professional DSLR (K1?) is due in autumn WITHOUT APSC (!)"

below is the original address, hope this is true although the possibility is low.

K30, K5n, K3 and maybe full-frame at Photokina...: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

Looks to me like simple speculations and nothing more....
is this really news worthy?

Anvh · 05-18-2012, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by D0n

either aps-c squared, or ff

You're forgetting 645 format, a new 645D certainly counts as professional DSLR without ASP-C sensor

D0n · 05-18-2012, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Anvh

You're forgetting 645 format, a new 645D certainly counts as professional DSLR without ASP-C sensor

not forgetting about 645d... I have a 4sale sign already made for my motorcycle in case 645dII has 4k video...

I just am hopeful Pentax will find a supplier of sensors that fit between aps-c and 645d and will release a ff or square format aps-c model.
what can I say? I love letting my imagination run wild when it comes to my camera addiction!

**Aristophanes** · 05-18-2012, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

How to make an APS-C-less camera:
1. make an APS-C camera
2. extract the APS-C sensor (use force if necessary)

Something like that

Or replace the Q with a larger sensor model to go up against m43/Nikon VJ/Canon G1X.

I see articulating screens on all models. Updated K-01.

Better AF on DSLR's.

FF as proof-of-concept only, maybe mid-2013 release.

Ne flashes. Tethering.

(and kudos to any company that makes an affordable hotshoe flash that both swivels and rotates with 2 AA batteries, not 4; let's get a "strobist" model out there for the casual shooter).

jk333 · 05-18-2012, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by GDRoth

Why would I invest in a K5n (with articulated screen) if the K3 is coming a few months later? Just testing the logic....

The DA LTDs (15, 21 etc) and DA* zooms aren't usable on FF; so, if you want to go wide (14/15 cropping to a 22mm FOV) or have a 2.8* zoom, you will need to have the sensor cropped.

FF cameras can crop, BUT, I wouldn't pay extra money for FF if most of my lenses are for cropped. That's just one opinion though...

userage · 05-18-2012, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden

What the heck do they mean with "without APS-C"?

Possibly just bad translation perhaps.

The Pentax better bring something new to the table for FF's though.

DaveBlack · 05-18-2012, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden

If a K3 full frame is considerably heavier and larger than a K-5/K-5n, and if you have invested a lot in smallish APS-C lenses. If my K-5 dies I would certainly like to replace it with a body of comparable size for travel and street shooting with the DA limiteds, and if the K3 is more of K20D size, or even bigger, that is not the body I want for a large fraction of my shooting. Not saying that I would not want a full frame body as well.

Totally agree. There is a need for a high-end (higher than K-5) APS-C camera. I will get it. Then again I would also get a FF Pentax if it is high-end and not a cheap camera.

Mistral75 · 05-18-2012, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by steve1307

If the K30 had the articulating screen ( Pentax's first) then I'm pretty sure we would seen it proudly displayed in that French catalog "moniteur articulé" or "pivotement du moniteur" something like that.

You are perfectly right. "Écran orientable" is specified in the description of Sony Alpha 57, Nikon D5100 and Canon EOS 600D in the Boulanger catalogue (even "écran orientable sur rotule" for the latest).

Mistral75 · 05-18-2012, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden

Here comes the Pentax 4/3rd camera!???!?

What the heck do they mean with "without APS-C"?

"Es gibt dazu eine Äußerung, daß sie KEINEN APS-C Sensor hat."

=

[concerning the pro level DSLR] "It is stated that it has NO APS-C sensor" [i.e. its sensor is NOT APS-C].

Gimbal · 05-18-2012, 10:20 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gazonk

May very well be the case. We need a back side picture of the K30!

Coould this be real?

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05-18-2012, 07:34 AM	#16
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	Originally posted by frankfanrui A quote from the German DSLR forum: translated: "... 1.) the last K5s arrived from the Far East 2.) As of May, the K5n will be available (with articulated screen) 3.) As of July/summer there will be a K3 ...and the big bang: a truly professional DSLR (K1?) is due in autumn WITHOUT APSC (!)" below is the original address, hope this is true although the possibility is low. K30, K5n, K3 and maybe full-frame at Photokina...: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review Here comes the Pentax 4/3rd camera!???!? What the heck do they mean with "without APS-C"?

05-18-2012, 07:45 AM	#17
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	How to make an APS-C-less camera: 1. make an APS-C camera 2. extract the APS-C sensor (use force if necessary) Something like that

05-18-2012, 07:46 AM	#18
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by Sinister I am pretty sure there won't be a 24x36 Pentax any time soon... Define anytime soon if you mean the next 6 months there will not be one in stores I agree. But I would take a bet on it being in stores by next spring (and previewed before that)

05-18-2012, 07:47 AM	#19
D0n Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 530	either aps-c squared, or ff

05-18-2012, 07:58 AM	#20
Sinister Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,045	Originally posted by eddie1960 Define anytime soon if you mean the next 6 months there will not be one in stores I agree. But I would take a bet on it being in stores by next spring (and previewed before that) Good Point I just don't expect an announcement this year, though I'd hope for one... whoever wants or thinks he needs FF, should take the corresponding decisions - that's what I am going to do.

05-18-2012, 08:04 AM	#21
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	Originally posted by frankfanrui A quote from the German DSLR forum: translated: "... 1.) the last K5s arrived from the Far East 2.) As of May, the K5n will be available (with articulated screen) 3.) As of July/summer there will be a K3 ...and the big bang: a truly professional DSLR (K1?) is due in autumn WITHOUT APSC (!)" below is the original address, hope this is true although the possibility is low. K30, K5n, K3 and maybe full-frame at Photokina...: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review Looks to me like simple speculations and nothing more.... is this really news worthy?

05-18-2012, 08:06 AM	#22
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	Originally posted by D0n either aps-c squared, or ff You're forgetting 645 format, a new 645D certainly counts as professional DSLR without ASP-C sensor

05-18-2012, 08:13 AM	#23
D0n Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 530	Originally posted by Anvh You're forgetting 645 format, a new 645D certainly counts as professional DSLR without ASP-C sensor not forgetting about 645d... I have a 4sale sign already made for my motorcycle in case 645dII has 4k video... I just am hopeful Pentax will find a supplier of sensors that fit between aps-c and 645d and will release a ff or square format aps-c model. what can I say? I love letting my imagination run wild when it comes to my camera addiction!

05-18-2012, 08:35 AM	#24
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by Kunzite How to make an APS-C-less camera: 1. make an APS-C camera 2. extract the APS-C sensor (use force if necessary) Something like that Or replace the Q with a larger sensor model to go up against m43/Nikon VJ/Canon G1X. I see articulating screens on all models. Updated K-01. Better AF on DSLR's. FF as proof-of-concept only, maybe mid-2013 release. Ne flashes. Tethering. (and kudos to any company that makes an affordable hotshoe flash that both swivels and rotates with 2 AA batteries, not 4; let's get a "strobist" model out there for the casual shooter).

05-18-2012, 09:01 AM	#25
jk333 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bev Posts: 181	Originally posted by GDRoth Why would I invest in a K5n (with articulated screen) if the K3 is coming a few months later? Just testing the logic.... The DA LTDs (15, 21 etc) and DA* zooms aren't usable on FF; so, if you want to go wide (14/15 cropping to a 22mm FOV) or have a 2.8* zoom, you will need to have the sensor cropped. FF cameras can crop, BUT, I wouldn't pay extra money for FF if most of my lenses are for cropped. That's just one opinion though...

05-18-2012, 09:12 AM	#26
userage Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 198	Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden What the heck do they mean with "without APS-C"? Possibly just bad translation perhaps. The Pentax better bring something new to the table for FF's though.

05-18-2012, 09:48 AM	#27
DaveBlack Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 441	Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden If a K3 full frame is considerably heavier and larger than a K-5/K-5n, and if you have invested a lot in smallish APS-C lenses. If my K-5 dies I would certainly like to replace it with a body of comparable size for travel and street shooting with the DA limiteds, and if the K3 is more of K20D size, or even bigger, that is not the body I want for a large fraction of my shooting. Not saying that I would not want a full frame body as well. Totally agree. There is a need for a high-end (higher than K-5) APS-C camera. I will get it. Then again I would also get a FF Pentax if it is high-end and not a cheap camera.

05-18-2012, 10:03 AM	#28
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by steve1307 If the K30 had the articulating screen ( Pentax's first) then I'm pretty sure we would seen it proudly displayed in that French catalog "moniteur articulé" or "pivotement du moniteur" something like that. You are perfectly right. "Écran orientable" is specified in the description of Sony Alpha 57, Nikon D5100 and Canon EOS 600D in the Boulanger catalogue (even "écran orientable sur rotule" for the latest).

05-18-2012, 10:10 AM	#29
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden Here comes the Pentax 4/3rd camera!???!? What the heck do they mean with "without APS-C"? "Es gibt dazu eine Äußerung, daß sie KEINEN APS-C Sensor hat." = [concerning the pro level DSLR] "It is stated that it has NO APS-C sensor" [i.e. its sensor is NOT APS-C].

05-18-2012, 10:20 AM - 1 Like	#30
Gimbal Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,106	Originally posted by gazonk May very well be the case. We need a back side picture of the K30! Coould this be real?