K20D Specs ???

little laker · 01-20-2008, 10:57 PM

Personally I don't think that Rickster's spec's are right.
I'm basing my opinion on the fact that pretty well everyone agrees the new camera is a 14.6 mp camera, not a 15.10 mp camera.

But them again I can wait. I don't even plan on logging in on the 28th, or 29th giving others a chance to take a peak at it first.

codiac2600 · 01-20-2008, 10:59 PM

The competition won't have half the technology the K20D has... but again there are areas for improvement.

Remeber the D300 only does like 2.8FPS in 14 bit RAW, so if 3FPS is 14 bit RAW it's already faster than the competition

codiac2600 · 01-20-2008, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by little laker

Personally I don't think that Rickster's spec's are right.
I'm basing my opinion on the fact that pretty well everyone agrees the new camera is a 14.6 mp camera, not a 15.10 mp camera.

But them again I can wait. I don't even plan on logging in on the 28th, or 29th giving others a chance to take a peak at it first.

They also didn't state effective MP or total MP

Gus · 01-20-2008, 11:07 PM

Actually, the sensor resolution posted by Rick is most likely accurate. The 15.10 MPixels would actually refer to the total number of pixels not the effective ones. The effective ones from the specs above are: 4672x3120=14576640 Pixels (14.6 MP rounded up).

If you look at the K10D's sensor specs, it was a 10.75 MP sensor with 10.2 MP effective. So as far as resolution is concerned, it's all still in line with the rumors (especially that we heard the K200D is getting the same sensor as one currently in the K10D).

That still doesn't mean the rest of the specs are correct. And as Chris has already mentioned, these specs don't show much of Pentax's new 'bomb' features.

Gus · 01-20-2008, 11:09 PM

OK, I can see that Chris beat me to it

lol101 · 01-21-2008, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by codiac2600

The competition won't have half the technology the K20D has... but again there are areas for improvement.

Remeber the D300 only does like 2.8FPS in 14 bit RAW, so if 3FPS is 14 bit RAW it's already faster than the competition

Yes but the thing that amazes me is that, from what I have seen, the 40D does 6fps in 14 bit RAW...

ogl · 01-21-2008, 12:43 AM

It could be rumor's specs. Not confirmed.

ogl · 01-21-2008, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by lol101

Yes but the thing that amazes me is that, from what I have seen, the 40D does 6fps in 14 bit RAW...

Give us the link.
I'm not sure

ogl · 01-21-2008, 12:53 AM

Canon EOS 40D Digital Camera Perform - Full Review - The Imaging Resource!
but I don't see remarks about 14 bit RAW

jscoby05 · 01-21-2008, 01:23 AM

The DIGIC III processor does strictly 14 Bit images in Raw and there seems to be little doubt that the 40D will do 6.5 FPS in RAW

HawaiianOnline · 01-21-2008, 01:38 AM

Ah, faster than 3 fps in 12 bit would be better. 6 fps 12 bit would be even better for BIF and action, but that assumes good AF performance. As for 1/250 sync, I think that would be advantageous for studio shooters using studio lighting.

lol101 · 01-21-2008, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Give us the link.
I'm not sure

I have no link, only a good friend that has the 40D and is shooting at 6fps with it in 14bits raw... maybe he is confused (he is a Canon shooter after all...

) but he sure looks convinced!

lol101 · 01-21-2008, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by HawaiianOnline

Ah, faster than 3 fps in 12 bit would be better. 6 fps 12 bit would be even better for BIF and action, but that assumes good AF performance. As for 1/250 sync, I think that would be advantageous for studio shooters using studio lighting.

Too early to tell but I am not sure that the K20D will be targeted at action shooters...

It might be more of a landscape/studio camera from what I suspect (same AF as K10? same 1/4000s/1/160s X-sync. shutter?)

ogl · 01-21-2008, 03:09 AM

Almost OFFICIAL
Samsungs neuer Bildsensor: CMOS, APS-C, 14 MP | photoscala

Highspeed and performance - powered by Samsung“: Apart from extremely small energy consumption is characterised the new sensor from Samsung development lab by extreme speed and a high sensitivity clearance.
Also in things intoxication poverty sets the image converter new yardsticks - and even with the highest sensitivity of ISO the 1600. A new Highspeed Bildprozessor (likewise from Samsung development) ensures for the fact that by the sensor supplied the raw data are prepared fast and with maximum quality

lol101 · 01-21-2008, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Almost OFFICIAL
Samsungs neuer Bildsensor: CMOS, APS-C, 14 MP | photoscala

Highspeed and performance - powered by Samsung“: Apart from extremely small energy consumption is characterised the new sensor from Samsung development lab by extreme speed and a high sensitivity clearance.
Also in things intoxication poverty sets the image converter new yardsticks - and even with the highest sensitivity of ISO the 1600. A new Highspeed Bildprozessor (likewise from Samsung development) ensures for the fact that by the sensor supplied the raw data are prepared fast and with maximum quality

mmmmh... ISO 1600 max sensitivity?

Could ISO 3200/6400 be "software" sensitivities..?

"

01-21-2008, 01:23 AM	#25
jscoby05 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 28	Eos 40d Fps The DIGIC III processor does strictly 14 Bit images in Raw and there seems to be little doubt that the 40D will do 6.5 FPS in RAW

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01-20-2008, 10:57 PM	#16
little laker Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,697	Personally I don't think that Rickster's spec's are right. I'm basing my opinion on the fact that pretty well everyone agrees the new camera is a 14.6 mp camera, not a 15.10 mp camera. But them again I can wait. I don't even plan on logging in on the 28th, or 29th giving others a chance to take a peak at it first.

01-20-2008, 10:59 PM	#17
codiac2600 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Rockford, Illinois Posts: 2,027	The competition won't have half the technology the K20D has... but again there are areas for improvement. Remeber the D300 only does like 2.8FPS in 14 bit RAW, so if 3FPS is 14 bit RAW it's already faster than the competition

01-20-2008, 11:00 PM	#18
codiac2600 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Rockford, Illinois Posts: 2,027	Originally posted by little laker Personally I don't think that Rickster's spec's are right. I'm basing my opinion on the fact that pretty well everyone agrees the new camera is a 14.6 mp camera, not a 15.10 mp camera. But them again I can wait. I don't even plan on logging in on the 28th, or 29th giving others a chance to take a peak at it first. They also didn't state effective MP or total MP

01-20-2008, 11:07 PM	#19
Gus Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 71	Actually, the sensor resolution posted by Rick is most likely accurate. The 15.10 MPixels would actually refer to the total number of pixels not the effective ones. The effective ones from the specs above are: 4672x3120=14576640 Pixels (14.6 MP rounded up). If you look at the K10D's sensor specs, it was a 10.75 MP sensor with 10.2 MP effective. So as far as resolution is concerned, it's all still in line with the rumors (especially that we heard the K200D is getting the same sensor as one currently in the K10D). That still doesn't mean the rest of the specs are correct. And as Chris has already mentioned, these specs don't show much of Pentax's new 'bomb' features.

01-20-2008, 11:09 PM	#20
Gus Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 71	OK, I can see that Chris beat me to it

01-21-2008, 12:33 AM	#21
lol101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Garennes sur Eure France Photos: Gallery Posts: 899	Originally posted by codiac2600 The competition won't have half the technology the K20D has... but again there are areas for improvement. Remeber the D300 only does like 2.8FPS in 14 bit RAW, so if 3FPS is 14 bit RAW it's already faster than the competition Yes but the thing that amazes me is that, from what I have seen, the 40D does 6fps in 14 bit RAW...

01-21-2008, 12:43 AM	#22
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	It could be rumor's specs. Not confirmed.

01-21-2008, 12:46 AM	#23
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by lol101 Yes but the thing that amazes me is that, from what I have seen, the 40D does 6fps in 14 bit RAW... Give us the link. I'm not sure

01-21-2008, 12:53 AM	#24
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Canon EOS 40D Digital Camera Perform - Full Review - The Imaging Resource! but I don't see remarks about 14 bit RAW

01-21-2008, 01:38 AM	#26
HawaiianOnline Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hawaii Posts: 613	Ah, faster than 3 fps in 12 bit would be better. 6 fps 12 bit would be even better for BIF and action, but that assumes good AF performance. As for 1/250 sync, I think that would be advantageous for studio shooters using studio lighting.

01-21-2008, 02:44 AM	#27
lol101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Garennes sur Eure France Photos: Gallery Posts: 899	Originally posted by ogl Give us the link. I'm not sure I have no link, only a good friend that has the 40D and is shooting at 6fps with it in 14bits raw... maybe he is confused (he is a Canon shooter after all... ) but he sure looks convinced!

01-21-2008, 02:48 AM	#28
lol101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Garennes sur Eure France Photos: Gallery Posts: 899	Originally posted by HawaiianOnline Ah, faster than 3 fps in 12 bit would be better. 6 fps 12 bit would be even better for BIF and action, but that assumes good AF performance. As for 1/250 sync, I think that would be advantageous for studio shooters using studio lighting. Too early to tell but I am not sure that the K20D will be targeted at action shooters... It might be more of a landscape/studio camera from what I suspect (same AF as K10? same 1/4000s/1/160s X-sync. shutter?)

01-21-2008, 03:09 AM	#29
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Almost OFFICIAL Samsungs neuer Bildsensor: CMOS, APS-C, 14 MP \| photoscala Highspeed and performance - powered by Samsung“: Apart from extremely small energy consumption is characterised the new sensor from Samsung development lab by extreme speed and a high sensitivity clearance. Also in things intoxication poverty sets the image converter new yardsticks - and even with the highest sensitivity of ISO the 1600. A new Highspeed Bildprozessor (likewise from Samsung development) ensures for the fact that by the sensor supplied the raw data are prepared fast and with maximum quality

01-21-2008, 03:23 AM	#30
lol101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Garennes sur Eure France Photos: Gallery Posts: 899	Originally posted by ogl Almost OFFICIAL Samsungs neuer Bildsensor: CMOS, APS-C, 14 MP \| photoscala Highspeed and performance - powered by Samsung“: Apart from extremely small energy consumption is characterised the new sensor from Samsung development lab by extreme speed and a high sensitivity clearance. Also in things intoxication poverty sets the image converter new yardsticks - and even with the highest sensitivity of ISO the 1600. A new Highspeed Bildprozessor (likewise from Samsung development) ensures for the fact that by the sensor supplied the raw data are prepared fast and with maximum quality mmmmh... ISO 1600 max sensitivity? Could ISO 3200/6400 be "software" sensitivities..? "