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**LaurenOE** · 06-05-2012, 08:01 AM

The EI-C90 -> EI-100 ->EI-200 and EI-2000 show the "failures" leading to, and part of, the MZ-D fiasco. The littered corpses of Pentax-joint-ventures. The *ist-D is the camera that saved Pentax - literally. If it was not for the *ist-D, there would be no Pentax DSLR cameras. I'm not sure Pentax would have survived on just the Optios. I also believe that the WR/WG cameras were another thing that saved Pentax.

**LaurenOE** · 06-05-2012, 08:07 AM

If anyone ever does a historical retrospective on the future of a re-born/successful Pentax, they will look at the late 90's and early 2000's as the time Pentax transitioned to a new photographic medium from film and was close to folding. Pentax cameras were *that* close.

I bought much of my glass when Pentax was on life support.

I wish I would have bought more.

When Pentax finally makes their FF camera, it will be a story drawn out over the last decade.

gazonk · 06-05-2012, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by LaurenOE

LOL. That is less rare, but definitely "up there" as a collector item. Those are fairly common. The Optio MX is another interesting bird, but also fairly common.

Of the unconventional Optios, I prefer the Optio X!

**LaurenOE** · 06-05-2012, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

Of the unconventional Optios, I prefer the Optio X!

The Optio "X" was definitely one of the odd balls, but again, not as rare as the earlier models!

I think if the rumors of the "360 degree" camera pan out, it will be another one of the Pentax odd balls - like the Optio X.

Mistral75 · 06-05-2012, 01:19 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Alizarine

(...)

Question: Why bring it out? Is it just to compare the size of the Q to a "full-frame" camera, even though it never got into production?

During this special presentation of the Q to Japanese bloggers, Pentax showed a whole bunch of cameras:

- Pentax Q
- Pentax K-5
- Pentax K-1
- Pentax 645D
- Pentax 645 Japan
- Pentax 67

lammie200 · 06-05-2012, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

During this special presentation of the Q to Japanese bloggers, Pentax showed a whole bunch of cameras:

- Pentax Q
- Pentax K-5
- Pentax K-1
- Pentax 645D
- Pentax 645 Japan
- Pentax 67

When did this presentation happen?

Mistral75 · 06-05-2012, 01:25 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by lammie200

When did this presentation happen?

On 16 July 2011, as stated in message #7 of this thread:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/188507-pentax-k-1-a.html#post1979001

parsons · 06-05-2012, 01:35 PM

i don't know why they would do that if they didn't want to look like they were going to actually make that thing. also where is the LX?

Mistral75 · 06-05-2012, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by parsons

i don't know why they would do that if they didn't want to look like they were going to actually make that thing. also where is the LX?

May be just to show the variety of "sensors" in the Pentax line-up, past and present, and to insert the Q in a continuum.

They were also showing the lacquered and gold-trimmed 645J (a limited edition from 1992) and the 67 and aren't exactly "going to actually (re)make those things".

tohax · 06-05-2012, 03:53 PM

what? still 11 AF points?

**Ron Boggs** · 06-05-2012, 04:13 PM

I still have an EI 200 that works great. And for a measely 2 megapixel point and shoot it actually produced very nice images. I had one image from that camera that sold to an ad agency that used it in full page color advertising in two different ad campaigns and for banners and product catalogs for several outdoor equipment companies. The image on the banner is printed at about 18" x 18" so I'm guessing they used Genuine Fractals (now Perfect Resize).

mickey · 06-05-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Mistral75

During this special presentation of the Q to Japanese bloggers, Pentax showed a whole bunch of cameras:

- Pentax Q
- Pentax K-5
- Pentax K-1
- Pentax 645D
- Pentax 645 Japan
- Pentax 67

That line-up is impressive, but incomplete without the inclusion of this:

**boriscleto** · 06-05-2012, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by mickey

That line-up is impressive, but incomplete without the inclusion of this:

Kore Ja Nai

Mistral75 · 06-05-2012, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by mickey

That line-up is impressive, but incomplete without the inclusion of this:

Oh, Korejanai was there. Hidden but there

.

Alizarine · 06-05-2012, 11:50 PM

OK so... this "blogger's event" from Pentax-Japan, do Pentax branches in other countries do that too? Or is it another Japan-only thing?

06-05-2012, 01:19 PM - 2 Likes	#20
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Alizarine (...) Question: Why bring it out? Is it just to compare the size of the Q to a "full-frame" camera, even though it never got into production? During this special presentation of the Q to Japanese bloggers, Pentax showed a whole bunch of cameras: - Pentax Q - Pentax K-5 - Pentax K-1 - Pentax 645D - Pentax 645 Japan - Pentax 67 Attached Images

06-05-2012, 10:48 PM	#29
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by mickey That line-up is impressive, but incomplete without the inclusion of this: Oh, Korejanai was there. Hidden but there . Attached Images

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LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	If anyone ever does a historical retrospective on the future of a re-born/successful Pentax, they will look at the late 90's and early 2000's as the time Pentax transitioned to a new photographic medium from film and was close to folding. Pentax cameras were that close. I bought much of my glass when Pentax was on life support. I wish I would have bought more. When Pentax finally makes their FF camera, it will be a story drawn out over the last decade.

06-05-2012, 08:42 AM	#18
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by LaurenOE LOL. That is less rare, but definitely "up there" as a collector item. Those are fairly common. The Optio MX is another interesting bird, but also fairly common. Of the unconventional Optios, I prefer the Optio X!

06-05-2012, 09:25 AM	#19
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	Originally posted by gazonk Of the unconventional Optios, I prefer the Optio X! The Optio "X" was definitely one of the odd balls, but again, not as rare as the earlier models! I think if the rumors of the "360 degree" camera pan out, it will be another one of the Pentax odd balls - like the Optio X.

06-05-2012, 01:22 PM	#21
lammie200 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Francisco Photos: Albums Posts: 1,033	Originally posted by Mistral75 During this special presentation of the Q to Japanese bloggers, Pentax showed a whole bunch of cameras: - Pentax Q - Pentax K-5 - Pentax K-1 - Pentax 645D - Pentax 645 Japan - Pentax 67 When did this presentation happen?

06-05-2012, 01:25 PM - 1 Like	#22
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by lammie200 When did this presentation happen? On 16 July 2011, as stated in message #7 of this thread: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/188507-pentax-k-1-a.html#post1979001

06-05-2012, 01:35 PM	#23
parsons Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 389	i don't know why they would do that if they didn't want to look like they were going to actually make that thing. also where is the LX?

06-05-2012, 02:02 PM	#24
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by parsons i don't know why they would do that if they didn't want to look like they were going to actually make that thing. also where is the LX? May be just to show the variety of "sensors" in the Pentax line-up, past and present, and to insert the Q in a continuum. They were also showing the lacquered and gold-trimmed 645J (a limited edition from 1992) and the 67 and aren't exactly "going to actually (re)make those things".

06-05-2012, 03:53 PM	#25
tohax Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Jakarta Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 69	what? still 11 AF points?

06-05-2012, 04:13 PM	#26
Ron Boggs Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MT Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,350	I still have an EI 200 that works great. And for a measely 2 megapixel point and shoot it actually produced very nice images. I had one image from that camera that sold to an ad agency that used it in full page color advertising in two different ad campaigns and for banners and product catalogs for several outdoor equipment companies. The image on the banner is printed at about 18" x 18" so I'm guessing they used Genuine Fractals (now Perfect Resize).

06-05-2012, 05:37 PM	#27
mickey Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,146	Originally posted by Mistral75 During this special presentation of the Q to Japanese bloggers, Pentax showed a whole bunch of cameras: - Pentax Q - Pentax K-5 - Pentax K-1 - Pentax 645D - Pentax 645 Japan - Pentax 67 That line-up is impressive, but incomplete without the inclusion of this:

06-05-2012, 06:06 PM	#28
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by mickey That line-up is impressive, but incomplete without the inclusion of this: Kore Ja Nai

06-05-2012, 11:50 PM	#30
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	OK so... this "blogger's event" from Pentax-Japan, do Pentax branches in other countries do that too? Or is it another Japan-only thing?