Quite Possibly - K20D and K200D Specifications

njc · 01-20-2008, 09:39 PM

Hi

This is my first post, I have been viewing this forum for several months and interested in the K20D, take it as information or not it is up to the viewers but I thought I should post here for everyone to see:

Credit goes to a poster on from the dpreview website
K20D, K200D and D60 Specs!: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

K20D Specs:
LetsGoDigital - Specification - Pentax K20D

Resolution 15.10 Mpixel
Maximum resolution 4672x3120
Minimum resolution 1824x1216
Sensor size 23.4x15.6mm
Sensor type CMOS
ISO ratings auto, 100 - 6400
Sequence (fps) 3
Video function No
LCD size 2.7-inch
LCD resolution (pixels) 230,000
Weight 715g.
Sizes (mm) 141.5x101x70

lithos · 01-20-2008, 09:46 PM

If these specs are correct, and taking into account the way the original DPreview poster uncovered them, then who does Benjikan sue?

ogl · 01-20-2008, 10:07 PM

15.1 MP is pretty high for usual CMOS crop sensor.
Maximum shutter 1/4000. Only 3 fps.
And can we trust this source?
Where is the BOMB? They are winner in MP race with APS-C?

George Lama · 01-20-2008, 10:08 PM

Not for anything but considering the rumor-mill, there's no way 2.8 FPS would be "it".

Smells like bacon to me.

123K10D · 01-20-2008, 10:17 PM

if they can't put in the same quality LCD as a D300, i'd never get one. 230k and 2.7 inches? that's just too ordinary for words... unless there's something else, this is a major bummer.

I could care less about the extra res... like 10M was ever 'not enough'.

nosnoop · 01-20-2008, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by 123K10D

if they can't put in the same quality LCD as a D300, i'd never get one. 230k and 2.7 inches? that's just too ordinary for words... unless there's something else, this is a major bummer.

I wouldn't doubt one bit that once the real specs is out, the bashing and whining would start. It seems like everyone has his/her own pet peeves, and everything has to match D300 no less.

40D has the same resolution screen, at a larger 3" size which would make it even worse. We want K20D to match D300, with every feature making a quatum leap from K10D, and yet we want to pay much less than D300 and not much more than K10D

codiac2600 · 01-20-2008, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by 123K10D

if they can't put in the same quality LCD as a D300, i'd never get one. 230k and 2.7 inches? that's just too ordinary for words... unless there's something else, this is a major bummer.

I could care less about the extra res... like 10M was ever 'not enough'.

Umm, the D300 only has an effective 320,000 pixels on a 3.0" screen.

Oh and the D300 doesn't do what this screen will do

Kaimarx · 01-20-2008, 11:09 PM

Not long to go before we found out what the killer features are pertaining to the sensor technology. Not too far off the Samsung camera....15.10 vs 14.6 and 3200 vs 6400, hmmm different sensors or just a bit of pushing on the Pentax side?

nosnoop · 01-20-2008, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Kaimarx

Not long to go before we found out what the killer features are pertaining to the sensor technology. Not too far off the Samsung camera....15.10 vs 14.6 and 3200 vs 6400, hmmm different sensors or just a bit of pushing on the Pentax side?

It's the same sensor. As stated in the other thread (shouldn't the threads be merged?), 15.1 is the total pixels, 14.6 is the effective pixels.

ogl · 01-21-2008, 12:20 AM

Said that it's not true
K20D, K200D and D60 Specs!: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
see Modus post

nosnoop · 01-21-2008, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Said that it's not true
K20D, K200D and D60 Specs!: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
see Modus post

But he may not be aware of the total vs effective pixel difference. If he has seen the camera, he may only know about the 4672x3120 resolution and thinking that 15.1 would be wrong.

ogl · 01-21-2008, 12:42 AM

It could be rumor's specs. Not confirmed.
Modus said about sensor size.

ricardobeat · 01-21-2008, 01:04 AM

it's funny isn't it?

everyone who posted "real" info on this forum about this have been subject to discussions on their credibility and knowledge. And now you are relying on a single guy who joined that forum yesterday... you reject and validate information based on your wishful thinking. Is "modus" some kind of "neo" of the pentax world? is he the one?

wake me up on the 24th please.

mutley · 01-21-2008, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by codiac2600

Umm, the D300 only has an effective 320,000 pixels on a 3.0" screen.

This has been discussed. If measured in the same way as the K10D having 210,000, the D300 has 920,000. Not just a little bit better. The Nikon is more expensive at $1800, but it has the Nikon name which is a large portion of that price. Take away the purchase power the Nikon name has that Pentax doesn't, then you can argue that we simply can't have a 3" 920,000 pixel LCD in the K20D because the K20D doesn't cost as much as the Nikon.

These screens were last year's technology. The K20D having "better" live view than the D300 is great, and is the type of innovation that gets people to Pentax instead of Nikon - as long as Samsung gives them a comparable performance LCD which they could have if so desired.

As Samsung is a leader in LCD's, you'd think this was a no-brainer to aquire approx 900,000 pixels (unless the screen is only 2.7" instead of 3" - then maybe 800,000) for the K20D.

ogl · 01-21-2008, 03:07 AM

Almost OFFICIAL
Samsungs neuer Bildsensor: CMOS, APS-C, 14 MP | photoscala

Highspeed and performance - powered by Samsung“: Apart from extremely small energy consumption is characterised the new sensor from Samsung development lab by extreme speed and a high sensitivity clearance.
Also in things intoxication poverty sets the image converter new yardsticks - and even with the highest sensitivity of ISO the 1600. A new Highspeed Bildprozessor (likewise from Samsung development) ensures for the fact that by the sensor supplied the raw data are prepared fast and with maximum quality

01-20-2008, 09:39 PM	#1
njc New Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California USA Posts: 3	Quite Possibly - K20D and K200D Specifications Hi This is my first post, I have been viewing this forum for several months and interested in the K20D, take it as information or not it is up to the viewers but I thought I should post here for everyone to see: Credit goes to a poster on from the dpreview website K20D, K200D and D60 Specs!: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review K20D Specs: LetsGoDigital - Specification - Pentax K20D Resolution 15.10 Mpixel Maximum resolution 4672x3120 Minimum resolution 1824x1216 Sensor size 23.4x15.6mm Sensor type CMOS ISO ratings auto, 100 - 6400 Sequence (fps) 3 Video function No LCD size 2.7-inch LCD resolution (pixels) 230,000 Weight 715g. Sizes (mm) 141.5x101x70

01-20-2008, 10:17 PM	#5
123K10D Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toowoomba - Australia Posts: 110	deal breaker if they can't put in the same quality LCD as a D300, i'd never get one. 230k and 2.7 inches? that's just too ordinary for words... unless there's something else, this is a major bummer. I could care less about the extra res... like 10M was ever 'not enough'.

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01-20-2008, 09:46 PM	#2
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	If these specs are correct, and taking into account the way the original DPreview poster uncovered them, then who does Benjikan sue?

01-20-2008, 10:07 PM	#3
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	15.1 MP is pretty high for usual CMOS crop sensor. Maximum shutter 1/4000. Only 3 fps. And can we trust this source? Where is the BOMB? They are winner in MP race with APS-C?

01-20-2008, 10:08 PM	#4
George Lama Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Buffalo/Rochester, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,133	Not for anything but considering the rumor-mill, there's no way 2.8 FPS would be "it". Smells like bacon to me.

01-20-2008, 10:51 PM	#6
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	Originally posted by 123K10D if they can't put in the same quality LCD as a D300, i'd never get one. 230k and 2.7 inches? that's just too ordinary for words... unless there's something else, this is a major bummer. I wouldn't doubt one bit that once the real specs is out, the bashing and whining would start. It seems like everyone has his/her own pet peeves, and everything has to match D300 no less. 40D has the same resolution screen, at a larger 3" size which would make it even worse. We want K20D to match D300, with every feature making a quatum leap from K10D, and yet we want to pay much less than D300 and not much more than K10D

01-20-2008, 11:04 PM	#7
codiac2600 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Rockford, Illinois Posts: 2,027	Originally posted by 123K10D if they can't put in the same quality LCD as a D300, i'd never get one. 230k and 2.7 inches? that's just too ordinary for words... unless there's something else, this is a major bummer. I could care less about the extra res... like 10M was ever 'not enough'. Umm, the D300 only has an effective 320,000 pixels on a 3.0" screen. Oh and the D300 doesn't do what this screen will do

01-20-2008, 11:09 PM	#8
Kaimarx Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Auckland Photos: Gallery Posts: 452	Not long to go before we found out what the killer features are pertaining to the sensor technology. Not too far off the Samsung camera....15.10 vs 14.6 and 3200 vs 6400, hmmm different sensors or just a bit of pushing on the Pentax side?

01-20-2008, 11:20 PM	#9
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	Originally posted by Kaimarx Not long to go before we found out what the killer features are pertaining to the sensor technology. Not too far off the Samsung camera....15.10 vs 14.6 and 3200 vs 6400, hmmm different sensors or just a bit of pushing on the Pentax side? It's the same sensor. As stated in the other thread (shouldn't the threads be merged?), 15.1 is the total pixels, 14.6 is the effective pixels.

01-21-2008, 12:20 AM	#10
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Said that it's not true K20D, K200D and D60 Specs!: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review see Modus post

01-21-2008, 12:23 AM	#11
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	Originally posted by ogl Said that it's not true K20D, K200D and D60 Specs!: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review see Modus post But he may not be aware of the total vs effective pixel difference. If he has seen the camera, he may only know about the 4672x3120 resolution and thinking that 15.1 would be wrong.

01-21-2008, 12:42 AM	#12
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	It could be rumor's specs. Not confirmed. Modus said about sensor size.

01-21-2008, 01:04 AM	#13
ricardobeat Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brazil Posts: 376	it's funny isn't it? everyone who posted "real" info on this forum about this have been subject to discussions on their credibility and knowledge. And now you are relying on a single guy who joined that forum yesterday... you reject and validate information based on your wishful thinking. Is "modus" some kind of "neo" of the pentax world? is he the one? wake me up on the 24th please.

01-21-2008, 01:15 AM	#14
mutley Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: LI, NY Posts: 313	Originally posted by codiac2600 Umm, the D300 only has an effective 320,000 pixels on a 3.0" screen. This has been discussed. If measured in the same way as the K10D having 210,000, the D300 has 920,000. Not just a little bit better. The Nikon is more expensive at $1800, but it has the Nikon name which is a large portion of that price. Take away the purchase power the Nikon name has that Pentax doesn't, then you can argue that we simply can't have a 3" 920,000 pixel LCD in the K20D because the K20D doesn't cost as much as the Nikon. These screens were last year's technology. The K20D having "better" live view than the D300 is great, and is the type of innovation that gets people to Pentax instead of Nikon - as long as Samsung gives them a comparable performance LCD which they could have if so desired. As Samsung is a leader in LCD's, you'd think this was a no-brainer to aquire approx 900,000 pixels (unless the screen is only 2.7" instead of 3" - then maybe 800,000) for the K20D.

01-21-2008, 03:07 AM	#15
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Almost OFFICIAL Samsungs neuer Bildsensor: CMOS, APS-C, 14 MP \| photoscala Highspeed and performance - powered by Samsung“: Apart from extremely small energy consumption is characterised the new sensor from Samsung development lab by extreme speed and a high sensitivity clearance. Also in things intoxication poverty sets the image converter new yardsticks - and even with the highest sensitivity of ISO the 1600. A new Highspeed Bildprozessor (likewise from Samsung development) ensures for the fact that by the sensor supplied the raw data are prepared fast and with maximum quality