Just to make it perfectly clear:
I never called Ned Bunnell a liar.
I have never "desperately tried to make Ned Bunell appear to be a liar" (which would first require me to buy Aristophanes' "Evil Ricoh"-fantasy).
I believe Ned Bunnell told the truth when he said that Ricoh had nothing to do with the Pentax USA UPP.
Aristophanes, I would appreciated if you stopped putting words into my mouth, as in the following.
Originally posted by Aristophanes The hyperbole now used is so far from the reality of what occurred is nothing more than a desperate attempt to make "Ned" a liar.
You must acknowledge the difference between "calling someone a liar" and "telling someone else, that if they claim 'A', while another person claims 'not A' then they are implying that the other person lies". You may disagree with the logic (at your own peril) but you cannot morph my statements into something they have never been.
Originally posted by Aristophanes I am not the one who said "Corporations cannot speak", whereas the US Supreme Court says otherwise. Class A wrong.
My statement was "Corporations cannot speak, without a person speaking". This is different to " "Corporations cannot speak". Hence your conclusion "Class A wrong" is wrong. You killed a strawman (again).
Originally posted by Aristophanes And if civil criminality won't do, then let's pull up just short of Godwin's Law and make it wartime criminality to REALLY make the point.
Oh, so it is wrong to create examples which are based on "life vs death" scenarios? Curiously, you write in another post:
Originally posted by Aristophanes You don't blame a guy and call him a liar if he had a figurative gun put to his head (Or was that analogy too militaristic? Someone, jump all over me!).
Is it the "Someone, jump all over me!" that makes it not "
shameful and reprehensible"? Are you applying the same standards to others and yourself?
Most importantly, however, your example is completely out of line. Ned's life was not at stake. According to your "Evil Ricoh"-fantasy, Ned was just asked to make a statement. At most, he would have lost his job (and probably sued the cr*p out of Ricoh in return). This was no "gun pointed to one's head" situation at all. In the latter situation, he would have no responsibility for anything he says. Even if he spoke the untruth, he'd not be lying. As you know, using an analogy, forced confessions can not be used in court.
However, as president of Pentax USA, you do not have to fear for your life, hence you are responsible for what you are doing.