German press releases

Olivier · 01-23-2008, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by blinxdk

[Highlights:

3 fps, but burst mode of 20 fps
ISO6400
1299 EUR with kit lens.
Live view
Dynamic range enlargement
14 bit analog to digital "transformer" (12 bit is mentioned too)

I love the dust mapping function that shows a picture of the sensor (in the correct orientation) with a map of the dust spots. It's a small thing, but very practical.

Peter Zack · 01-23-2008, 11:26 AM

Yup it's gone. I have it open on the computer but the file won't save. Must have been put out too early.

marcuswoollen · 01-23-2008, 11:32 AM

The catalog's down from the German site, but it's up on Mediafire now:

K20D-GER-Catalogue.pdf

CSpronken · 01-23-2008, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by cajuncutter

Anyone know if the K200D will have liveview? If not what would the advantage of it opposed to the K10D besides size? If it cost more then looks like I am in for the K10D if it is cheaper. There seems to be no WOW factor for me personaly with the K20D so no need to go into anymore debt than need be.

No I don't think so judging from the PDF. It does allow the digital preview to be stored now I think.

Matjazz · 01-23-2008, 12:07 PM

Since the I managed to get K200D spec pdf in time I uploaded it.

K200D_Pressemitteilung.pdf

anybody care to upload K20D spec pdf and K200D catalog?

Vil · 01-23-2008, 12:14 PM

German K20D brochure is on Mediafire

K20D-GER-Catalogue.pdf - k20d

Edvinas · 01-23-2008, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by Matjazz

Since the I managed to get K200D spec pdf in time I uploaded it.

K200D_Pressemitteilung.pdf

K200D: 4 JPEGS and 4RAW in continuous mode? I hope that's a typo... and it's 16-20 JPEGs, not 4...

mawz · 01-23-2008, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Edvinas

K200D: 4 JPEGS and 4RAW in continuous mode? I hope that's a typo... and it's 16-20 JPEGs, not 4...

That had better be an oops. Even 4 RAW's is an issue when the competition is delivering 6-9 RAW buffers (A200 is 6 RAW's, but if it's write speeds are anything like the A100 it'll get as high as 12 RAW's with a UDMA CF card, D40X has a 9 RAW buffer, E-510 is 6 RAW). But that's the only weak point in the K200D that I can see.

m8o · 01-23-2008, 12:55 PM

For anyone that can read the PDF (in german), is there any mention of 'anything special' through/in the viewfinder? Thanx for your help.

Tbear · 01-23-2008, 01:00 PM

According to my basic calculations: 20 FPS at 1.6MP/frame is the equivalent of 32MP/sec. Now you can basically divide that 32MP any way you like. 32MP/s allows a little over 10MP/frame for a 3FPS. So 20FPS at 1.6MP/frame in reality is no more impressive than 3FPS at 10.67MP/frame. No knock against the K20D, but this feature, at least, does not impress me much (if those are indeed the true specs of the burst mode).

torge · 01-23-2008, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by m8o

For anyone that can read the PDF (in german), is there any mention of 'anything special' through/in the viewfinder? Thanx for your help.

I skimmed through the available German documents, but there doesn't seem to an indication of LV in viewfinder as many of us had expected, based on that Pentax patent someone had found.

There is a mentioning of grid lines that can be superimposed and I first took that for an indication, that there is an extra "layer" in the viewfinder. Later in the brochure however there is a picture of the rear LCD with those superimposed grid lines and I am afraid that will be all we will get in this incarnation of the K series cameras.

So, where is the K1D or the K645D, that have this feature? I think it would be cool to be able to toggle a clipping warning and/or histogram as an overlay into the optical viewfinder!

Cheers,
Torge

mattdm · 01-23-2008, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Tbear

According to my basic calculations: 20 FPS at 1.6MP/frame is the equivalent of 32MP/sec. Now you can basically divide that 32MP any way you like. 32MP/s allows a little over 10MP/frame for a 3FPS. So 20FPS at 1.6MP/frame in reality is no more impressive than 3FPS at 10.67MP/frame. No knock against the K20D, but this feature, at least, does not impress me much (if those are indeed the true specs of the burst mode).

This is reasonable enough. It's not an area in which they really want to focus the design of the camera, but they need a high burst rate as a checklist item.

01-23-2008, 01:00 PM	#25
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	20 FPS at 1.6 MP/frame is no big deal According to my basic calculations: 20 FPS at 1.6MP/frame is the equivalent of 32MP/sec. Now you can basically divide that 32MP any way you like. 32MP/s allows a little over 10MP/frame for a 3FPS. So 20FPS at 1.6MP/frame in reality is no more impressive than 3FPS at 10.67MP/frame. No knock against the K20D, but this feature, at least, does not impress me much (if those are indeed the true specs of the burst mode).

01-23-2008, 01:12 PM	#26
torge Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hamburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 199	live view in viewfinder? Originally posted by m8o For anyone that can read the PDF (in german), is there any mention of 'anything special' through/in the viewfinder? Thanx for your help. I skimmed through the available German documents, but there doesn't seem to an indication of LV in viewfinder as many of us had expected, based on that Pentax patent someone had found. There is a mentioning of grid lines that can be superimposed and I first took that for an indication, that there is an extra "layer" in the viewfinder. Later in the brochure however there is a picture of the rear LCD with those superimposed grid lines and I am afraid that will be all we will get in this incarnation of the K series cameras. So, where is the K1D or the K645D, that have this feature? I think it would be cool to be able to toggle a clipping warning and/or histogram as an overlay into the optical viewfinder! Cheers, Torge

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01-23-2008, 11:24 AM	#16
Olivier Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, OR Photos: Albums Posts: 25	Originally posted by blinxdk [Highlights: 3 fps, but burst mode of 20 fps ISO6400 1299 EUR with kit lens. Live view Dynamic range enlargement 14 bit analog to digital "transformer" (12 bit is mentioned too) I love the dust mapping function that shows a picture of the sensor (in the correct orientation) with a map of the dust spots. It's a small thing, but very practical.

01-23-2008, 11:26 AM	#17
Peter Zack Pentaxian Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,643	Yup it's gone. I have it open on the computer but the file won't save. Must have been put out too early.

01-23-2008, 11:32 AM	#18
marcuswoollen New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 7	The catalog's down from the German site, but it's up on Mediafire now: K20D-GER-Catalogue.pdf

01-23-2008, 11:48 AM	#19
CSpronken Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 105	Originally posted by cajuncutter Anyone know if the K200D will have liveview? If not what would the advantage of it opposed to the K10D besides size? If it cost more then looks like I am in for the K10D if it is cheaper. There seems to be no WOW factor for me personaly with the K20D so no need to go into anymore debt than need be. No I don't think so judging from the PDF. It does allow the digital preview to be stored now I think.

01-23-2008, 12:07 PM	#20
Matjazz Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: EU/Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 774	Since the I managed to get K200D spec pdf in time I uploaded it. K200D_Pressemitteilung.pdf anybody care to upload K20D spec pdf and K200D catalog?

01-23-2008, 12:14 PM	#21
Vil Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa CDN Photos: Gallery Posts: 76	German K20D brochure is on Mediafire K20D-GER-Catalogue.pdf - k20d

01-23-2008, 12:26 PM	#22
Edvinas Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kaunas Posts: 1,458	Originally posted by Matjazz Since the I managed to get K200D spec pdf in time I uploaded it. K200D_Pressemitteilung.pdf K200D: 4 JPEGS and 4RAW in continuous mode? I hope that's a typo... and it's 16-20 JPEGs, not 4...

01-23-2008, 12:34 PM	#23
mawz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 166	Originally posted by Edvinas K200D: 4 JPEGS and 4RAW in continuous mode? I hope that's a typo... and it's 16-20 JPEGs, not 4... That had better be an oops. Even 4 RAW's is an issue when the competition is delivering 6-9 RAW buffers (A200 is 6 RAW's, but if it's write speeds are anything like the A100 it'll get as high as 12 RAW's with a UDMA CF card, D40X has a 9 RAW buffer, E-510 is 6 RAW). But that's the only weak point in the K200D that I can see.

01-23-2008, 12:55 PM	#24
m8o Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 40°-55'-44" N / 73°-24'-07" W [on LI] Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,092	For anyone that can read the PDF (in german), is there any mention of 'anything special' through/in the viewfinder? Thanx for your help.

01-23-2008, 01:14 PM	#27
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by Tbear According to my basic calculations: 20 FPS at 1.6MP/frame is the equivalent of 32MP/sec. Now you can basically divide that 32MP any way you like. 32MP/s allows a little over 10MP/frame for a 3FPS. So 20FPS at 1.6MP/frame in reality is no more impressive than 3FPS at 10.67MP/frame. No knock against the K20D, but this feature, at least, does not impress me much (if those are indeed the true specs of the burst mode). This is reasonable enough. It's not an area in which they really want to focus the design of the camera, but they need a high burst rate as a checklist item.