Originally posted by Priyantha Bleeker Well the K20D is just the K10D what it should have been on the introduction but the sensor wasn't ready.
Yes the Live View is nice...but that's the only 'new' feature there is in the 'K10D' body which wasn't on the planning in the first place.
But Pentax did introduce the K10D with a inferior Sony 10MP CCD and with some crippled functions(no AF adjustments in a menu, no X-contact), they had to introduce the camera faster as planned I think because they needed the sales to be sure the survived(after all they did half...
I think Pentax should name the K20D als 'K10D Super' just like what they did with the good old 'ME' and 'ME Super' the 'ME Super' was a real improvement over the normal 'ME' and not just a firmware fix and a couple of electronic sensors in the mount and again a firmware fix with the 'K100D' to 'K100D Super'.
They should make then a good statement I think, because than they can say 'Look we have upgraded our K10D but it is a evolution of the old model, we are working on a revolutionary new model for the future'
I own the K10, and the K20 seems a completely different camera. CCD vs. CMOS. Iso 1600 vs. 6400. Better anti-dust, better Shake reduction, the ability to shoot 20 fps (and yes, I could find a use for it), AF adjustments possible (usually kept for more advanced cameras), extra DR mode, IR filter mode (together with many other filter modes), Pixel Mapping On Board to remap dead/hot pixels so you don’t need to send it in for service, Trap-Focus, etc.
I find the K20 a very worthy follower to the K10, which was a great camera.
I have a feeling you have not really put the K10 through the paces, and tried it over a longer period of time; there is a reason it swept the market of awards.
If the IQ of the K20 is up for it, there could be some consideration for potential D300/D200 and particularly Eos 40D customers. Currently the Canon forum was chocked, when Phil stated that the RAW output from K10, was better than Eos 40D.
Talking about warming up old soup that is the Eos 10D->20D->30D->40D; at least so the reviews said.
And BTW, the D200 was not fully sealed, (look at the review from Thom Hogan). The Eos 30D that you mentioned, was not sealed at all. Eos 40D has a bit sealing, but not fully gasketed. And only recent Nikon lenses announced with the D300 and D3 are sealed.
I don’t really care much for magnesium body, metal chassis and impact absorbing polyamide plastic handles accidents better.
Now I see that you were also the one thinking the DA* 50-135 lens was bad, eventhough you had no personal experience with it. Makes me think that there was little need to waste time, running through these recent arguments of yours.
It is funny that you should find the Sony 10MP CCD sensor of the K10 inferior, as this was very well received in the D200. Or maybe it was a joke of finding 10 faults in your posting, and who could do it quickest. Take the Eos 40D out in foul weather, and lets see the AF and FPS performance when the inside of the camera is soaked.
To Chris, thanks a lot for talking the time to write the essay. And for showing Iso 1600 samples, I can hardly believe the IQ with such high Iso. That is insane, I can understand that you were impressed. The K10 doesn’t come close to this sort of IQ at the same Iso.
If people think Sync-speed is slow at 1/180th, why don’t they use High-speed synch option ?
With the Sigma 300/2.8, 500/4.5, and 800 mm out, I don’t really see the problem in lens line-up anymore. Tamron 17-50/2.8 is also on the way, as is 80-200/2.8. A Ring flash can easily be made by oneself, with good results, (seen many Pro's playing with this).
I also like that with the K20, it is possible to select in the menu the amount of NR that you wanna apply to your photos. And it is impressive that it has the highest amount of resolution in its class.
As it is possible in the preset scene modes, to customize yourself; this would be a fine feature in JPEG shooting.
HDR filter sounds interesting too, and it is good that they made the RAW bottom customisable. They've listened to the feedback from the K10.
Interval shooting is a great feature too, where you can set the start time, and number of shots to take, and how long between each. Saves some sleeping time, where you don't have to get up
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The K20 was a replacement for the K10, why people suddenly believe that it would kill the D300 and leave the 1D Mark III in the trail, is incomprehensible to me.
With new batteries, the K20 might be able to give more juice to the AF system, hence why Ben found the focus fast with the new limited macro lens.
Pentax has once again made a camera for enthusiastic photographers, and not gadget freaks. The AF system of the K10 should live up to what the Z-1P was capable of, Mattias Klum has taken award winning shots for National Geographic with that one, deep in the Borneo jungle under the canopy. And in the early days of digital, wildlife shooters took amazing shots with cameras that only had 3 fps, and smaller buffer than the K10. So yeah, you may need higher skill with Pentax in some situations, but it is perfectly capable of grabbing the great shots.
Pentax really did good in Europe as well in 2007. In selected big countries (Germany, France, UK), they grabbed 8 % of the market. With Sony at 6 %, Olympus at 5 %, and Samsung at 1 %. They’ve made well aware of themselves, and I think the K20 is again gonna be a photographers camera, and not spec junkies, (though I sometimes can be this myself). I’ve been using Pentax SLR’s for around 10 years, sometimes I had to work harder to get the shot; but with AF assist light and a flash, I’ve always come away with images I liked.