FPS rate petition for new K20D

time-snaps · 01-23-2008, 04:14 PM

Could you please refrain from discussing anything here unless directly commenting on the frame rates of the K20D.... mmmh

Would love to see how many of you like an adjustable frame rate. Like something where we can increase the frame rate from between 20/sec at 1.6Mp all the way to 3/sec at 14.6 Mp. And I like this to be RAW+JPG.

so please vote - even if Pentax is not looking

kent vinyard · 01-23-2008, 04:22 PM

Well, all I can say is that I'm very dissapointed that they did not give us at least 5 fps. I guess it doesn't matter since the focussing is still the same. 3 fps might be enough if the focus system would track even that fast. 20fps is totally useless if the auto focus isn't tracking!

alib99 · 01-23-2008, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by time-snaps

Could you please refrain from discussing anything here unless directly commenting on the frame rates of the K20D.... mmmh

Would love to see how many of you like an adjustable frame rate. Like something where we can increase the frame rate from between 20/sec at 1.6Mp all the way to 3/sec at 14.6 Mp. And I like this to be RAW+JPG.

so please vote - even if Pentax is not looking

Do you think anybody will choose a or c?

Priyantha Bleeker · 01-23-2008, 04:25 PM

I choosed for 'Disable this, its a useless gimmick'
It is just useless

Give us just a higher FPS rate in normal mode please instead of this joke

time-snaps · 01-23-2008, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by alib99

Do you think anybody will choose a or c?

well, lets wait a little... there might be those landscape photographers. Can't see a rainbow being that fast that it requires a shooting rate of 6 fps

Duplo · 01-23-2008, 04:28 PM

I voted C.

IMHO the framerate has to follow the ability of the AF system to be of use...

That is still unconfirmed, but I sincerely doubt, that it will do AF and have AF active in between shots.

But then again, 3 fps is more than enough for most of what I do

alib99 · 01-23-2008, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by time-snaps

well, lets wait a little... there might be those landscape photographers. Can't see a rainbow being that fast that it requires a shooting rate of 6 fps

I mean, if I was a rainbow shoter, I would prefer "Being able to adjust it between 20fps and 3 fps with a corresponding file increase"
Who knows, all of a sudden the rainbow may start rock'n roll.

ftpaddict · 01-23-2008, 04:57 PM

Adjust adjust adjust!

time-snaps · 01-23-2008, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by alib99

Who knows, all of a sudden the rainbow may start rock'n roll.

oops forgot about the musical rainbows, you right! Silly me...

nathancombs · 01-23-2008, 05:33 PM

hay i can put that thing in 1.6 hit the button and it would sound inprecive LOL

Tbear · 01-23-2008, 06:03 PM

20 FPS at 1.6MP/frame is similar to what a modern camcorder can do. I think adding a video function (which in my mind is what this gimmick is) to a quality photographic instrument is a waste of resources. I would much rather see, for example, 5 FPS at 6.4MP/frame - at least then, one could expect the image quality to be comparable to that of the K100.

davemdsn · 01-23-2008, 06:41 PM

While I wouldn't mind 5-6 fps, I would rarely use it. Pictures of my son when we are the zoo. Stuff like that. More often than not I have strobes attached my my camera, and they take a few seconds to recycle so fps are of little concern to me.

Since the shutter assembly is the same one from the K10 I doubt that it is capable of faster cycles so an adjustable rate would be impossible. A redesigned assembly would make the camera cost even more money and since there are already complaints about the price I can see why they left it out this time.

ricardobeat · 01-23-2008, 08:35 PM

I'd love it if they stretched it just a little bit, to 30fps at 1080p resolution, or even DV

HawaiianOnline · 01-23-2008, 08:47 PM

Some have said the 3fps is fine. Heck, 1 or 2 fps is fine if you don't do a lot of action or birding (specifically BIF). All I know is that when I borrowed a 1DMkII, I got a higher keeper rate BECAUSE of the faster AF and FPS. At one time, I was specifically looking for a used one with a couple of long teles to do this kind of photography. Then I heard about the K20D and I hoped that it would have a higher fps. So much for that.

The K20D is not comparable to the af and framerate performance of the 1DMkII. If anything, it's more like the 1DsMKII, a studio, landscape, and single shot beast (if the IQ holds up). I will probably get it just for those purposes, but I will still be hunting for a sport and BIF rig...

BrendanPK · 01-23-2008, 08:59 PM

Please Pentax can you make a firmware upgrade to alow user controled FPS-burst MP/file adjustment. I dont mind being able to only shoot 12-10mp at 4-5fps or 5-6mp at 6-7fps or even 4-5mp at8fps but at 1.6mp its rather unless to have even at 20fps.

View Poll Results: What would you like to see in the final release of the K20D
Leave it at 20 fps in 1.6Mp mode	10	5.15%
Being able to adjust it between 20fps and 3 fps with a corresponding file increase	158	81.44%
Disable this, its a useless gimmick	31	15.98%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 194. You may not vote on this poll

01-23-2008, 04:14 PM	#1
time-snaps Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beijing, China Photos: Gallery Posts: 86	FPS rate petition for new K20D Could you please refrain from discussing anything here unless directly commenting on the frame rates of the K20D.... mmmh Would love to see how many of you like an adjustable frame rate. Like something where we can increase the frame rate from between 20/sec at 1.6Mp all the way to 3/sec at 14.6 Mp. And I like this to be RAW+JPG. so please vote - even if Pentax is not looking

01-23-2008, 08:59 PM	#15
BrendanPK Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 735	PLEASE please please Please Pentax can you make a firmware upgrade to alow user controled FPS-burst MP/file adjustment. I dont mind being able to only shoot 12-10mp at 4-5fps or 5-6mp at 6-7fps or even 4-5mp at8fps but at 1.6mp its rather unless to have even at 20fps.

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01-23-2008, 04:22 PM	#2
kent vinyard Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norman, Oklahoma USA Posts: 348	Well, all I can say is that I'm very dissapointed that they did not give us at least 5 fps. I guess it doesn't matter since the focussing is still the same. 3 fps might be enough if the focus system would track even that fast. 20fps is totally useless if the auto focus isn't tracking!

01-23-2008, 04:22 PM	#3
alib99 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 90	Originally posted by time-snaps Could you please refrain from discussing anything here unless directly commenting on the frame rates of the K20D.... mmmh Would love to see how many of you like an adjustable frame rate. Like something where we can increase the frame rate from between 20/sec at 1.6Mp all the way to 3/sec at 14.6 Mp. And I like this to be RAW+JPG. so please vote - even if Pentax is not looking Do you think anybody will choose a or c?

01-23-2008, 04:25 PM	#4
Priyantha Bleeker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 190	I choosed for 'Disable this, its a useless gimmick' It is just useless Give us just a higher FPS rate in normal mode please instead of this joke

01-23-2008, 04:26 PM	#5
time-snaps Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beijing, China Photos: Gallery Posts: 86 Original Poster	Originally posted by alib99 Do you think anybody will choose a or c? well, lets wait a little... there might be those landscape photographers. Can't see a rainbow being that fast that it requires a shooting rate of 6 fps

01-23-2008, 04:28 PM	#6
Duplo Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Copenhagen Photos: Gallery Posts: 924	I voted C. IMHO the framerate has to follow the ability of the AF system to be of use... That is still unconfirmed, but I sincerely doubt, that it will do AF and have AF active in between shots. But then again, 3 fps is more than enough for most of what I do

01-23-2008, 04:54 PM	#7
alib99 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 90	Originally posted by time-snaps well, lets wait a little... there might be those landscape photographers. Can't see a rainbow being that fast that it requires a shooting rate of 6 fps I mean, if I was a rainbow shoter, I would prefer "Being able to adjust it between 20fps and 3 fps with a corresponding file increase" Who knows, all of a sudden the rainbow may start rock'n roll.

01-23-2008, 04:57 PM	#8
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Adjust adjust adjust!

01-23-2008, 05:02 PM	#9
time-snaps Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beijing, China Photos: Gallery Posts: 86 Original Poster	Originally posted by alib99 Who knows, all of a sudden the rainbow may start rock'n roll. oops forgot about the musical rainbows, you right! Silly me...

01-23-2008, 05:33 PM	#10
nathancombs Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waysboro va Photos: Gallery Posts: 517	hay i can put that thing in 1.6 hit the button and it would sound inprecive LOL

01-23-2008, 06:03 PM	#11
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	20 FPS at 1.6MP/frame is similar to what a modern camcorder can do. I think adding a video function (which in my mind is what this gimmick is) to a quality photographic instrument is a waste of resources. I would much rather see, for example, 5 FPS at 6.4MP/frame - at least then, one could expect the image quality to be comparable to that of the K100.

01-23-2008, 06:41 PM	#12
davemdsn Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,413	While I wouldn't mind 5-6 fps, I would rarely use it. Pictures of my son when we are the zoo. Stuff like that. More often than not I have strobes attached my my camera, and they take a few seconds to recycle so fps are of little concern to me. Since the shutter assembly is the same one from the K10 I doubt that it is capable of faster cycles so an adjustable rate would be impossible. A redesigned assembly would make the camera cost even more money and since there are already complaints about the price I can see why they left it out this time.

01-23-2008, 08:35 PM	#13
ricardobeat Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brazil Posts: 376	I'd love it if they stretched it just a little bit, to 30fps at 1080p resolution, or even DV

01-23-2008, 08:47 PM	#14
HawaiianOnline Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hawaii Posts: 613	Some have said the 3fps is fine. Heck, 1 or 2 fps is fine if you don't do a lot of action or birding (specifically BIF). All I know is that when I borrowed a 1DMkII, I got a higher keeper rate BECAUSE of the faster AF and FPS. At one time, I was specifically looking for a used one with a couple of long teles to do this kind of photography. Then I heard about the K20D and I hoped that it would have a higher fps. So much for that. The K20D is not comparable to the af and framerate performance of the 1DMkII. If anything, it's more like the 1DsMKII, a studio, landscape, and single shot beast (if the IQ holds up). I will probably get it just for those purposes, but I will still be hunting for a sport and BIF rig...