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Martin · 01-23-2008, 04:28 PM

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Tom Lusk · 01-23-2008, 04:41 PM

"First, it would be great to see a pixel-shedding ultra-high speed burst rate. We'd be willing to trade about half the resolution for a doubled six-frame per second high-speed burst mode for peak action of birds in flight, and rodeos, and surfing, and snowboarding, and gymastics, and softball, and soccer, and football, or a rhino charging our Land Rover. We'll wager this is a mechanical issue which can't be addressed in the K20D."

I can't wait to see the responses saying the reviewer is being paid by Canon and Nikon to post such damaging info!

Just kidding, I think.

Rickster · 01-23-2008, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by Martin

First Look: Pentax K20D - - PopPhotoJanuary 2008

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Nice catch! Thanks - I like the ISO comparison 100% crops on page 2. Awesome!

CoryV · 01-23-2008, 04:54 PM

huh... i don't read Norwegian but that 3200 comparison doesn't look all that fantastic. I'm hoping this is a really old firmware revision.

RodConn · 01-23-2008, 05:05 PM

Did anyone else notice the improvement in bracketing setup commented on by pop photo - I am an HDR fan and this is great

Rod

Frakkas · 01-23-2008, 05:06 PM

More from popphoto.com

"Pentax has once again swung for the fences with the K20D, packing a ton of high-caliber features, heaps of megapixels, tons of customization, and a pro-caliber build into a camera that should manage to distinguish itself in a crowded pack of high-end enthusiast/entry-level pro SLRs. We've just begun our full lab test with an early production Pentax K20D and out initial findings show that the Pentax K20D is very class competitive (particularly at ISOs 100-1600) against other cameras in this category including the Canon EOS 40D, Sony Alpha 700, and the Nikon D300."

Martin · 01-23-2008, 05:12 PM

Pentax K20D - førsteinntrykk / Digit.no

Tom M · 01-23-2008, 05:23 PM

Looks like a positive yet 'Canon and Nikon line my pockets' review... Oh well... Let's see what the DxO meter says.. Doubt we'll see the true numbers on this one.. lost forever in popphotospace.. And to think, I used to really respect those guys..

Fototim · 01-23-2008, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by CoryV

huh... i don't read Norwegian but that 3200 comparison doesn't look all that fantastic. I'm hoping this is a really old firmware revision.

It is one single sample. To little to make any conclusions. But based on what I see here, I'd say
1. The K20 picture is underexposed. Underexposure usually means more noise.
2. K20D pic has less luminanse noise, but more chroma noise.

IMO, I'd say a draw, or perhaps K20 has "better" noise characteristicks.

BTW. At PDML K10 and K20 was directly compared. It lookes like they have made a major break in the noise department

Tim

davemdsn · 01-23-2008, 08:16 PM

I would say the 40D has more chroma noise and the K20 has more luminance noise. Overall it is not that big of a difference. Considering the K20 has about 45% more total pixels than the 40D, Pentax has done a very fine job.

Martin · 01-24-2008, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by davemdsn

I would say the 40D has more chroma noise and the K20 has more luminance noise. Overall it is not that big of a difference. Considering the K20 has about 45% more total pixels than the 40D, Pentax has done a very fine job.

Also the author writes that the K20D camera he tested had a very early firmware and that that any conclutions on that particular test is impossible to make.

Martin

solar1 · 01-24-2008, 12:17 AM

----------------

Originally posted by Fototim

BTW. At PDML K10 and K20 was directly compared. It lookes like they have made a major break in the noise department

Tim

ricardobeat · 01-24-2008, 12:47 AM

here you are:

Shot by me, with the K20D

ISO 1600 is much cleaner and with better detail.

6400 looks blotchy, but.. whatever.

Also very interesting to note that ISO 200 has noticeably more detail than ISO 100.

Martin · 01-24-2008, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by ricardobeat

here you are:

Shot by me, with the K20D

ISO 1600 is much cleaner and with better detail.

6400 looks blotchy, but.. whatever.

Also very interesting to note that ISO 200 has noticeably more detail than ISO 100.

Thanks for that! That is a huge difference on the iso1600 shots.

Martin

ramzey · 01-24-2008, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by ricardobeat

here you are:

Shot by me, with the K20D

ISO 1600 is much cleaner and with better detail.

6400 looks blotchy, but.. whatever.

Also very interesting to note that ISO 200 has noticeably more detail than ISO 100.

thx , that what i like to see

01-23-2008, 04:28 PM	#1
Martin New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 8	First test? First Look: Pentax K20D - - PopPhotoJanuary 2008 Pentax oppgraderer toppmodellen - Akam.no

01-23-2008, 04:41 PM	#2
Tom Lusk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Photos: Gallery Posts: 973	From PopPhoto "First, it would be great to see a pixel-shedding ultra-high speed burst rate. We'd be willing to trade about half the resolution for a doubled six-frame per second high-speed burst mode for peak action of birds in flight, and rodeos, and surfing, and snowboarding, and gymastics, and softball, and soccer, and football, or a rhino charging our Land Rover. We'll wager this is a mechanical issue which can't be addressed in the K20D." I can't wait to see the responses saying the reviewer is being paid by Canon and Nikon to post such damaging info! Just kidding, I think.

01-23-2008, 05:12 PM	#7
Martin New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 8 Original Poster	Another test Pentax K20D - førsteinntrykk / Digit.no

01-24-2008, 12:14 AM	#11
Martin New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 8 Original Poster	Early firmware Originally posted by davemdsn I would say the 40D has more chroma noise and the K20 has more luminance noise. Overall it is not that big of a difference. Considering the K20 has about 45% more total pixels than the 40D, Pentax has done a very fine job. Also the author writes that the K20D camera he tested had a very early firmware and that that any conclutions on that particular test is impossible to make. Martin

01-24-2008, 12:17 AM	#12
solar1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southern Calif Posts: 565	Link if possible please? thanks! ---------------- Originally posted by Fototim BTW. At PDML K10 and K20 was directly compared. It lookes like they have made a major break in the noise department Tim

01-23-2008, 04:50 PM	#3
Rickster Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SE Idaho - Rocky Mtns Photos: Gallery Posts: 580	Originally posted by Martin First Look: Pentax K20D - - PopPhotoJanuary 2008 Pentax oppgraderer toppmodellen - Akam.no Nice catch! Thanks - I like the ISO comparison 100% crops on page 2. Awesome!

01-23-2008, 04:54 PM	#4
CoryV Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle Photos: Gallery Posts: 29	huh... i don't read Norwegian but that 3200 comparison doesn't look all that fantastic. I'm hoping this is a really old firmware revision.

01-23-2008, 05:05 PM	#5
RodConn Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 69	Did anyone else notice the improvement in bracketing setup commented on by pop photo - I am an HDR fan and this is great Rod

01-23-2008, 05:06 PM	#6
Frakkas Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oslo, Norway Photos: Gallery Posts: 27	More from popphoto.com "Pentax has once again swung for the fences with the K20D, packing a ton of high-caliber features, heaps of megapixels, tons of customization, and a pro-caliber build into a camera that should manage to distinguish itself in a crowded pack of high-end enthusiast/entry-level pro SLRs. We've just begun our full lab test with an early production Pentax K20D and out initial findings show that the Pentax K20D is very class competitive (particularly at ISOs 100-1600) against other cameras in this category including the Canon EOS 40D, Sony Alpha 700, and the Nikon D300."

01-23-2008, 05:23 PM	#8
Tom M Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lincoln Park, NJ Photos: Gallery Posts: 780	Looks like a positive yet 'Canon and Nikon line my pockets' review... Oh well... Let's see what the DxO meter says.. Doubt we'll see the true numbers on this one.. lost forever in popphotospace.. And to think, I used to really respect those guys..

01-23-2008, 07:23 PM	#9
Fototim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 268	Originally posted by CoryV huh... i don't read Norwegian but that 3200 comparison doesn't look all that fantastic. I'm hoping this is a really old firmware revision. It is one single sample. To little to make any conclusions. But based on what I see here, I'd say 1. The K20 picture is underexposed. Underexposure usually means more noise. 2. K20D pic has less luminanse noise, but more chroma noise. IMO, I'd say a draw, or perhaps K20 has "better" noise characteristicks. BTW. At PDML K10 and K20 was directly compared. It lookes like they have made a major break in the noise department Tim

01-23-2008, 08:16 PM	#10
davemdsn Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,413	I would say the 40D has more chroma noise and the K20 has more luminance noise. Overall it is not that big of a difference. Considering the K20 has about 45% more total pixels than the 40D, Pentax has done a very fine job.

01-24-2008, 12:47 AM	#13
ricardobeat Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brazil Posts: 376	here you are: Shot by me, with the K20D ISO 1600 is much cleaner and with better detail. 6400 looks blotchy, but.. whatever. Also very interesting to note that ISO 200 has noticeably more detail than ISO 100.

01-24-2008, 12:57 AM	#14
Martin New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 8 Original Poster	Originally posted by ricardobeat here you are: Shot by me, with the K20D ISO 1600 is much cleaner and with better detail. 6400 looks blotchy, but.. whatever. Also very interesting to note that ISO 200 has noticeably more detail than ISO 100. Thanks for that! That is a huge difference on the iso1600 shots. Martin

01-24-2008, 07:43 AM	#15
ramzey Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 54	Originally posted by ricardobeat here you are: Shot by me, with the K20D ISO 1600 is much cleaner and with better detail. 6400 looks blotchy, but.. whatever. Also very interesting to note that ISO 200 has noticeably more detail than ISO 100. thx , that what i like to see

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