DA 35mm f2.8 Macro limited

CoryV · 01-26-2008, 12:56 PM

esthetic harmonics = interestingness

philmorley · 01-26-2008, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Mr. The Guy

$600. It should be great!

I'm keen on it for when the voigtlander is too long, but I'm thinking when it comes to handing over the money, I think the budget is going to tell me to give the 50mm a try

creampuff · 01-26-2008, 03:55 PM

Now that there is another 35mm lens in the Pentax line-up, the dilemma facing the Pentax user is which to choose, the older and proven FA 35mm f/2 versus the new DA 35mm f/2.8 Macro Limited.

FA 35
Faster by 1 stop
Cheaper
Full frame image circle
Screw drive AF
Has aperture ring
6 elements in 5 groups with 1 aspherical element
6 aperture blades
Min focus distance of 0.3m (1:5.9x magnification)
64 mm x 44mm, 195 g
Clip-on flower shaped hood (optional extra)

DA 35 Macro Ltd
Slower by 1 stop
More expensive
Image circle for APS-C (not fully determined yet if image circle is usable on film)
SDM? (Corrected NO SDM but has Quick Shift)
No aperture ring
9 elements in 8 groups
9 aperture blades
Min focus distance of 0.139m (1:1 magnification)
63 mm x 46.5 mm, 215 g
Built-in lens hood

So which would you choose?

offertonhatter · 01-26-2008, 04:49 PM

If it is a Limited, theny it will be one of the finest Pentax lenses optically.....

But one nagging thing is that I wish it was faster, maybe F1.8 or even F1.4.

But having said that, I still want one, it is a limited after all, so will be one of the sharpest lenses on the market, period!

I might just have to get one. :-)

clawhammer · 01-26-2008, 06:32 PM

it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro.

RaduA · 01-26-2008, 07:21 PM

DA 35 Macro Ltd

SDM

So which would you choose?[/QUOTE]

No SDM I am affraid for the DA 35 Macro Limited!

creampuff · 01-26-2008, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by clawhamemr

it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro.

The issue is not lens speed but optical performance. At any rate, for most macro applications, a wide aperture isn't critical except for focusing, having a wider DOF is.

lenanen · 01-26-2008, 11:27 PM

I've already chosen.
Ordered the DA 35 Limited Macro on the 24th of January, at the same time with the K20D!

roentarre · 01-26-2008, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by clawhamemr

it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro.

Well, voigtlander 125mm macro is f2.5

clawhammer · 01-26-2008, 11:55 PM

ah, I stand corrected

djm · 01-27-2008, 02:31 AM

I believe that a 35 will give a truer perspective than even a 50. It will seem like you are really there in Lillyput Land taking in the view. It will be easier to hold - less shake. On all still subjects, flowers etc it will be wonderful, the downside is the spooking of insects.

blende8 · 01-27-2008, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by djm

I believe that a 35 will give a truer perspective than even a 50. It will seem like you are really there in Lillyput Land taking in the view.

You are right.
But 35mm is nothing.

11mm, f4.5, 1/25, ISO 250

10mm, f5.6, 1/25, ISO 500

Pentaxke · 01-27-2008, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by clawhamemr

it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro.

A little searching further:

Zuiko D 50 f/2 (Olympus already did have a 50 f/2 and a 90 f/2 macro for the OM-system)
Carl Zeiss 50 f/2 and 90 f/2 (although it seems almost impossible to obtain anywhere)

But al thes lenses are not full macro's; they're only going to a 1:2 ratio, while the macro limited goes life size... I think that is essentially the trade off (apart from the money

) for a sub f/2,8 macro. Thinking about it, then I'm glad they stopped at f/2,8 and concentrated on the image quality...

Pentaxke · 01-27-2008, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by lenanen

I've already chosen.
Ordered the DA 35 Limited Macro on the 24th of January, at the same time with the K20D!

Please share: where did you order one? I seem to not be able to find any shop (in Europe) who lists it already...

lenanen · 01-27-2008, 11:27 AM

Nothing mysterious here

From the Finnish rep through my trusted local dealer. Now all I have to do is wait which is the hardest part. But hey, what's new!

01-26-2008, 03:55 PM	#18
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	FA 35 vs DA 35 Macro Limited Now that there is another 35mm lens in the Pentax line-up, the dilemma facing the Pentax user is which to choose, the older and proven FA 35mm f/2 versus the new DA 35mm f/2.8 Macro Limited. FA 35 Faster by 1 stop Cheaper Full frame image circle Screw drive AF Has aperture ring 6 elements in 5 groups with 1 aspherical element 6 aperture blades Min focus distance of 0.3m (1:5.9x magnification) 64 mm x 44mm, 195 g Clip-on flower shaped hood (optional extra) DA 35 Macro Ltd Slower by 1 stop More expensive Image circle for APS-C (not fully determined yet if image circle is usable on film) SDM? (Corrected NO SDM but has Quick Shift) No aperture ring 9 elements in 8 groups 9 aperture blades Min focus distance of 0.139m (1:1 magnification) 63 mm x 46.5 mm, 215 g Built-in lens hood So which would you choose? Last edited by creampuff; 01-26-2008 at 09:32 PM.

01-26-2008, 07:21 PM	#21
RaduA Guest	No SDM ... DA 35 Macro Ltd SDM So which would you choose?[/QUOTE] No SDM I am affraid for the DA 35 Macro Limited!

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philmorley Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: in a house in Armidale, Australia Posts: 472	Originally posted by Mr. The Guy $600. It should be great! I'm keen on it for when the voigtlander is too long, but I'm thinking when it comes to handing over the money, I think the budget is going to tell me to give the 50mm a try

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offertonhatter Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North West UK Posts: 390	If it is a Limited, theny it will be one of the finest Pentax lenses optically..... But one nagging thing is that I wish it was faster, maybe F1.8 or even F1.4. But having said that, I still want one, it is a limited after all, so will be one of the sharpest lenses on the market, period! I might just have to get one. :-)

01-26-2008, 06:32 PM	#20
clawhammer Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Logan, Utah Photos: Gallery Posts: 971	it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro.

01-26-2008, 09:35 PM	#22
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by clawhamemr it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro. The issue is not lens speed but optical performance. At any rate, for most macro applications, a wide aperture isn't critical except for focusing, having a wider DOF is.

01-26-2008, 11:27 PM	#23
lenanen Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 18	I've already chosen. Ordered the DA 35 Limited Macro on the 24th of January, at the same time with the K20D!

01-26-2008, 11:33 PM	#24
roentarre Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 11,783	Originally posted by clawhamemr it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro. Well, voigtlander 125mm macro is f2.5

01-26-2008, 11:55 PM	#25
clawhammer Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Logan, Utah Photos: Gallery Posts: 971	ah, I stand corrected

01-27-2008, 02:31 AM	#26
djm Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 50	I believe that a 35 will give a truer perspective than even a 50. It will seem like you are really there in Lillyput Land taking in the view. It will be easier to hold - less shake. On all still subjects, flowers etc it will be wonderful, the downside is the spooking of insects.

01-27-2008, 03:17 AM	#27
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by djm I believe that a 35 will give a truer perspective than even a 50. It will seem like you are really there in Lillyput Land taking in the view. You are right. But 35mm is nothing. 11mm, f4.5, 1/25, ISO 250 10mm, f5.6, 1/25, ISO 500

01-27-2008, 06:20 AM	#28
Pentaxke Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 476	Originally posted by clawhamemr it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro. A little searching further: Zuiko D 50 f/2 (Olympus already did have a 50 f/2 and a 90 f/2 macro for the OM-system) Carl Zeiss 50 f/2 and 90 f/2 (although it seems almost impossible to obtain anywhere) But al thes lenses are not full macro's; they're only going to a 1:2 ratio, while the macro limited goes life size... I think that is essentially the trade off (apart from the money ) for a sub f/2,8 macro. Thinking about it, then I'm glad they stopped at f/2,8 and concentrated on the image quality...

01-27-2008, 06:22 AM	#29
Pentaxke Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 476	Originally posted by lenanen I've already chosen. Ordered the DA 35 Limited Macro on the 24th of January, at the same time with the K20D! Please share: where did you order one? I seem to not be able to find any shop (in Europe) who lists it already...

01-27-2008, 11:27 AM	#30
lenanen Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 18	Nothing mysterious here From the Finnish rep through my trusted local dealer. Now all I have to do is wait which is the hardest part. But hey, what's new!