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01-26-2008, 12:56 PM   #16
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esthetic harmonics = interestingness

01-26-2008, 02:21 PM   #17
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mr. The Guy Quote
$600. It should be great!
I'm keen on it for when the voigtlander is too long, but I'm thinking when it comes to handing over the money, I think the budget is going to tell me to give the 50mm a try
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FA 35 vs DA 35 Macro Limited

Now that there is another 35mm lens in the Pentax line-up, the dilemma facing the Pentax user is which to choose, the older and proven FA 35mm f/2 versus the new DA 35mm f/2.8 Macro Limited.

FA 35
Faster by 1 stop
Cheaper
Full frame image circle
Screw drive AF
Has aperture ring
6 elements in 5 groups with 1 aspherical element
6 aperture blades
Min focus distance of 0.3m (1:5.9x magnification)
64 mm x 44mm, 195 g
Clip-on flower shaped hood (optional extra)

DA 35 Macro Ltd
Slower by 1 stop
More expensive
Image circle for APS-C (not fully determined yet if image circle is usable on film)
SDM? (Corrected NO SDM but has Quick Shift)
No aperture ring
9 elements in 8 groups
9 aperture blades
Min focus distance of 0.139m (1:1 magnification)
63 mm x 46.5 mm, 215 g
Built-in lens hood

So which would you choose?

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If it is a Limited, theny it will be one of the finest Pentax lenses optically.....

But one nagging thing is that I wish it was faster, maybe F1.8 or even F1.4.

But having said that, I still want one, it is a limited after all, so will be one of the sharpest lenses on the market, period!

I might just have to get one. :-)

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it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro.
01-26-2008, 07:21 PM   #21
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No SDM ...

DA 35 Macro Ltd

SDM

So which would you choose?[/QUOTE]

No SDM I am affraid for the DA 35 Macro Limited!
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QuoteOriginally posted by clawhamemr Quote
it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro.
The issue is not lens speed but optical performance. At any rate, for most macro applications, a wide aperture isn't critical except for focusing, having a wider DOF is.
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I've already chosen.
Ordered the DA 35 Limited Macro on the 24th of January, at the same time with the K20D!

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QuoteOriginally posted by clawhamemr Quote
it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro.
Well, voigtlander 125mm macro is f2.5
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ah, I stand corrected
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I believe that a 35 will give a truer perspective than even a 50. It will seem like you are really there in Lillyput Land taking in the view. It will be easier to hold - less shake. On all still subjects, flowers etc it will be wonderful, the downside is the spooking of insects.
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I believe that a 35 will give a truer perspective than even a 50. It will seem like you are really there in Lillyput Land taking in the view.
You are right.
But 35mm is nothing.

11mm, f4.5, 1/25, ISO 250


10mm, f5.6, 1/25, ISO 500
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QuoteOriginally posted by clawhamemr Quote
it seems to me that it is not possible (financially) to make a sub-2.8 macro. A little searching shows a canon 50mm f/2.5, but it doesn't seem that anyone else has made something that fast in a macro.
A little searching further:

Zuiko D 50 f/2 (Olympus already did have a 50 f/2 and a 90 f/2 macro for the OM-system)
Carl Zeiss 50 f/2 and 90 f/2 (although it seems almost impossible to obtain anywhere)

But al thes lenses are not full macro's; they're only going to a 1:2 ratio, while the macro limited goes life size... I think that is essentially the trade off (apart from the money ) for a sub f/2,8 macro. Thinking about it, then I'm glad they stopped at f/2,8 and concentrated on the image quality...
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QuoteOriginally posted by lenanen Quote
I've already chosen.
Ordered the DA 35 Limited Macro on the 24th of January, at the same time with the K20D!
Please share: where did you order one? I seem to not be able to find any shop (in Europe) who lists it already...
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Nothing mysterious here
From the Finnish rep through my trusted local dealer. Now all I have to do is wait which is the hardest part. But hey, what's new!
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