Power Zoom?

ricardobeat · 01-23-2008, 11:31 PM

Is PowerZoom coming back?

Considering that the K20D has support for it, that looks like a good reason for the 60-250mm being delayed. What do you think?

kskjon · 01-24-2008, 12:49 AM

The K10D has support for it as well.
The connectors are the same as SDM uses.

ricardobeat · 01-24-2008, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by kskjon

The K10D has support for it as well.
The connectors are the same as SDM uses.

Yea, the connectors have been re-used, but I don't remember seeing PowerZoom listed as a feature for the K10. PZ doesn't work on it, the specs say "not supported".

The K20D brochure mentions "PowerZoom support" - the german version at least. I wonder if it would be possible to use the contacts for SDM/PZ at the same time.

kskjon · 01-24-2008, 02:31 AM

The K10D does work with PowerZoom. I've tried it myself

eurostar · 01-24-2008, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by ricardobeat

Yea, the connectors have been re-used, but I don't remember seeing PowerZoom listed as a feature for the K10. PZ doesn't work on it, the specs say "not supported".

The K20D brochure mentions "PowerZoom support" - the german version at least. I wonder if it would be possible to use the contacts for SDM/PZ at the same time.

No. The same contacts power old powerzoom or new SDM lenses.

Om81 · 01-24-2008, 04:43 AM

K10 work with PZ, but K100Super - does not!

-spam- · 01-24-2008, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by ricardobeat

that looks like a good reason for the 60-250mm being delayed. What do you think?

Eck, no. Give me a twist ring zoom any day of the week

dopeytree · 04-29-2009, 05:17 AM

on the other hand what happens if you put a SDM lens on a camera with power zoom contacts?

Steelski · 04-29-2009, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by dopeytree

on the other hand what happens if you put a SDM lens on a camera with power zoom contacts?

apparently nothing. it does not AF.

what am I saying apparently. I have tried it by accident on my Pz-1p . No AF!!!

PePe · 04-29-2009, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by kskjon

The K10D does work with PowerZoom. I've tried it myself

Yes, you get the basic PowerZoom function i.e. motorised zoom but nothing else. PowerZoom, as it was originally inroduced, included a number of other functions and features. These are no longer supported.Most of these features I did not find very useful. The one I did use was motorised zooming during exposure.

Venturi · 04-29-2009, 07:53 AM

Speaking of.... does anyone have an extra copy of either the PZ-1 or 28-105 operators manual?

All I have is a poor quality PDF scan of the camera manual.

Cambo · 05-06-2009, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Venturi

Speaking of.... does anyone have an extra copy of either the PZ-1 or 28-105 operators manual?

All I have is a poor quality PDF scan of the camera manual.

can't remember what the switch and the buttons do on the lens...

they are tough to remember...I'll try to dig one out for you. Then see if my scanner still wrks (haven't used that since the film days).

Cheers,
Cameron

Venturi · 05-06-2009, 11:25 AM

hehe, well the PDF is readable, but I just like "books".

On a related note though... I just realized that the zoom ring on the 28-105 (power zoom version) slides so you can use it like a "real" zoom! I was outside last weekend and juggling the PZ-1/28-105 and a 1yo and heard/felt a *click* and low and behold the zoom ring spun.

RiceHigh · 05-06-2009, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by ricardobeat

Is PowerZoom coming back?

Considering that the K20D has support for it, that looks like a good reason for the 60-250mm being delayed. What do you think?

AFAIK, powered zoom and SDM cannot co-exist. K10D prior to fw 1.3 can drive PZ lens but not SDM (and of course). And with a K10D upgraded to FW 1.3, it can drive SDM but PZ lenses will have no function for the power zoom.

I have never heard that K20D can support both PZ and SDM. Anyone out there has all the three things can try out and tell?

PePe · 05-06-2009, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

AFAIK, powered zoom and SDM cannot co-exist. K10D prior to fw 1.3 can drive PZ lens but not SDM (and of course). And with a K10D upgraded to FW 1.3, it can drive SDM but PZ lenses will have no function for the power zoom.

I have never heard that K20D can support both PZ and SDM. Anyone out there has all the three things can try out and tell?

I have a K10D updated to fw 1.30.
I am using both SDM lenses and my earlier power zoom lenses, and they both work fine. With the latter you have the basic power zoom function i.e. motorised zoom, but no image tracking or other power zoom special features. This was the case already with earlier firmware versions.

01-23-2008, 11:31 PM	#1
ricardobeat Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brazil Posts: 376	Power Zoom? Is PowerZoom coming back? Considering that the K20D has support for it, that looks like a good reason for the 60-250mm being delayed. What do you think?

05-06-2009, 10:04 AM	#12
Cambo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,016	Let me guess... Originally posted by Venturi Speaking of.... does anyone have an extra copy of either the PZ-1 or 28-105 operators manual? All I have is a poor quality PDF scan of the camera manual. can't remember what the switch and the buttons do on the lens... they are tough to remember...I'll try to dig one out for you. Then see if my scanner still wrks (haven't used that since the film days). Cheers, Cameron

05-06-2009, 08:40 PM	#14
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	SDM and PZ cannot co-exist (?) Originally posted by ricardobeat Is PowerZoom coming back? Considering that the K20D has support for it, that looks like a good reason for the 60-250mm being delayed. What do you think? AFAIK, powered zoom and SDM cannot co-exist. K10D prior to fw 1.3 can drive PZ lens but not SDM (and of course). And with a K10D upgraded to FW 1.3, it can drive SDM but PZ lenses will have no function for the power zoom. I have never heard that K20D can support both PZ and SDM. Anyone out there has all the three things can try out and tell?

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01-24-2008, 12:49 AM	#2
kskjon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ålesund, Norway Photos: Gallery Posts: 170	The K10D has support for it as well. The connectors are the same as SDM uses.

01-24-2008, 01:11 AM	#3
ricardobeat Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brazil Posts: 376 Original Poster	Originally posted by kskjon The K10D has support for it as well. The connectors are the same as SDM uses. Yea, the connectors have been re-used, but I don't remember seeing PowerZoom listed as a feature for the K10. PZ doesn't work on it, the specs say "not supported". The K20D brochure mentions "PowerZoom support" - the german version at least. I wonder if it would be possible to use the contacts for SDM/PZ at the same time.

01-24-2008, 02:31 AM	#4
kskjon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ålesund, Norway Photos: Gallery Posts: 170	The K10D does work with PowerZoom. I've tried it myself

01-24-2008, 02:52 AM	#5
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	Originally posted by ricardobeat Yea, the connectors have been re-used, but I don't remember seeing PowerZoom listed as a feature for the K10. PZ doesn't work on it, the specs say "not supported". The K20D brochure mentions "PowerZoom support" - the german version at least. I wonder if it would be possible to use the contacts for SDM/PZ at the same time. No. The same contacts power old powerzoom or new SDM lenses.

01-24-2008, 04:43 AM	#6
Om81 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Moscow Posts: 39	K10 work with PZ, but K100Super - does not!

01-24-2008, 05:01 AM	#7
-spam- Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 354	Originally posted by ricardobeat that looks like a good reason for the 60-250mm being delayed. What do you think? Eck, no. Give me a twist ring zoom any day of the week

04-29-2009, 05:17 AM	#8
dopeytree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somerset, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 619	on the other hand what happens if you put a SDM lens on a camera with power zoom contacts?

04-29-2009, 07:05 AM	#9
Steelski Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Varna Posts: 470	Originally posted by dopeytree on the other hand what happens if you put a SDM lens on a camera with power zoom contacts? apparently nothing. it does not AF. what am I saying apparently. I have tried it by accident on my Pz-1p . No AF!!!

04-29-2009, 07:12 AM	#10
PePe Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Helsinki, Finland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 597	Originally posted by kskjon The K10D does work with PowerZoom. I've tried it myself Yes, you get the basic PowerZoom function i.e. motorised zoom but nothing else. PowerZoom, as it was originally inroduced, included a number of other functions and features. These are no longer supported.Most of these features I did not find very useful. The one I did use was motorised zooming during exposure.

04-29-2009, 07:53 AM	#11
Venturi Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,636	Speaking of.... does anyone have an extra copy of either the PZ-1 or 28-105 operators manual? All I have is a poor quality PDF scan of the camera manual.

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05-06-2009, 11:25 AM	#13
Venturi Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,636	hehe, well the PDF is readable, but I just like "books". On a related note though... I just realized that the zoom ring on the 28-105 (power zoom version) slides so you can use it like a "real" zoom! I was outside last weekend and juggling the PZ-1/28-105 and a 1yo and heard/felt a click and low and behold the zoom ring spun.

05-06-2009, 09:06 PM	#15
PePe Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Helsinki, Finland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 597	Originally posted by RiceHigh AFAIK, powered zoom and SDM cannot co-exist. K10D prior to fw 1.3 can drive PZ lens but not SDM (and of course). And with a K10D upgraded to FW 1.3, it can drive SDM but PZ lenses will have no function for the power zoom. I have never heard that K20D can support both PZ and SDM. Anyone out there has all the three things can try out and tell? I have a K10D updated to fw 1.30. I am using both SDM lenses and my earlier power zoom lenses, and they both work fine. With the latter you have the basic power zoom function i.e. motorised zoom, but no image tracking or other power zoom special features. This was the case already with earlier firmware versions.