Originally posted by mattdm: Just to clarify, by "high end" you mean "large focal length" not "high-end of the market". Because the latter tend to be constant aperture (which is why they're so expensive, really.)
Yes, I meant long focal length. I did mention constant aperture zooms being expensive.
Originally posted by gooshin: my buddies canon 70-200 USM is a constant f2.8, at around 1500 (i dont remember how much he paid for his)
it makes wonderful pictures
Tokina also makes an 80-200 constant f2.8 unit for pentax, can be had for around 1000-1300 IIRC
what is the insentive for me to buy a 200mm fixed lens in light of other lenses on the market for a similar price? how much higher quality are we talking about here? is it really worth it?
I don't consider 200mm to be "extreme focal length". 300mm is not even very extreme but its where the prices start really going up for constant aperture zooms. I wouldn't frankly buy a 200mm Prime lens at this time because as you say, the XX-200mm zooms work very well at affordable prices.
Originally posted by raz: Don't know about the f8 thing...the cheap(~120$) 70-300 tamron has f/4.5 at 220mm and f/5.6 at 300 and is pretty decent in terms of image quality.
But I bet it doesn't even compare in terms of sharpness, contrast and so on with the new 300mm f/4.
I was speaking in generalities there and didn't have any particular lens in mind. I just pulled common aperture numbers out of my hat.
You bring up the crucial point Raz. In terms of IQ, at focal lengths beyond 300mm it becomes harder and harder for zooms to keep up with fixed focal length lenses. Are there mondo zooms that do the job, yes, but they tend to be very very very pricey. I simply prefer a 300mm f4 Prime to a XX-300mm f2.8-5.6 zoom. This happens to be true on the wide end as well...
Of course there is also the issue of availability. Zooms of any range are much more common than primes of any focal length. You can find 3rd party prime lenses for Pentax but I am not sure if any are in current production, yet all of the 3rd party manufacturers make zooms. Even Pentax is concentrating largley on zooms and less on primes.
All in all these points summarize why I prefer "extreme focal length" lenses to be fixed focal length, aka Primes, rather than super zooms. You can always zoom with your feet...
disclaimer. Just because I prefer primes for extreme telephoto it doesn't mean I don't appreciate extreme zooms. I do want a Bigma (Sigma 50-500mm f4-6.3 - $999) and to get that range I am willing to deal with the variable aperture. Can any of you imagine how much it would cost as a constant f4 or even f5.6? Not to mention how huge it would be? "Bigma" wouldnt begin to describe it.
Last edited by MRRiley; 01-24-2008 at 04:58 PM.