Pentax To Announce the K-3 Full Frame DSLR At Photokina

LamyTax · 08-17-2012, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

It would be even nicer to get Voigtlander and Carl Zeiss back in the tent, but I doubt the K30 is the camera to do that. Perhaps the K-5 successor will be the one to do so.

Oh yes, their macro and portrait lenses are neat. They're not on eBay as much as I'd like

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Spag · 08-17-2012, 03:53 AM

32 days to go, and still not a single leak or credible rumor.

Zygonyx · 08-17-2012, 03:56 AM

If you remember what happened with the K-5 :
announced around september the 10th, available end october 2010.

We could be fixed within about 3 weeks

MouLaG Ôfr · 08-17-2012, 04:48 AM

Sony NEX goes Full Frame (?) !!!

Clavius · 08-17-2012, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by MouLaG Ôfr

Sony NEX goes Full Frame (?) !!!

...That rumor again...

If it's true though, then Pentax really is deader then dead.

Verglace · 08-17-2012, 05:22 AM

Please be a full frame, please be a full frame

But most likely it wont be

eddie1960 · 08-17-2012, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by LamyTax

These images are not the real thing. You can safely assume that early mockups never have much actual substance. All the development still has to be done.
Also, to make a very long lens only for APS-C and not for FF doesn't make much sense. The actual differences in design would be almost negligible. The price for such a lens is mainly defined by the glass used, and this is dominated by the front element: 560mm/5.6=100mm. The money you can save for not making it work well on FF is negligible. So that's what you do, you make it for FF.

and deciding it's not FF because it is called a DA lens no longer counts with the release of the DA50 which in all marketing is deemed FF compatible

ElJamoquio · 08-17-2012, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by eddie1960

and deciding it's not FF because it is called a DA lens no longer counts with the release of the DA50 which in all marketing is deemed FF compatible

But it was labeled green on a roadmap! Those colors are legally binding.

MouLaG Ôfr · 08-17-2012, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

...That rumor again...

If it's true though, then Pentax really is deader then dead.

Sonyalpharumors gives to this rumor the rating "SR5=almost certainly correct!" (their highest level of certainty ~= 99%)

Clavius · 08-17-2012, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by MouLaG Ôfr

Sonyalpharumors gives to this rumor the rating "SR5=almost certainly correct!" (their highest level of certainty ~= 99%)

If Sony comes up with an FF NEX, and Pentax again lags behind, then they are dead. Dead and cremated. Gone. Forgotten. Because why get a Pentax APSC DSLR if you can get a Sony NEX FF for (probably) less money?

eddie1960 · 08-17-2012, 06:52 AM

the nex is designed for a FF sensor supposedly so it is only a matter of time and sensor pricing. If the price rumour on the D600 @ 1699 or less is correct and it is a Sony sensor then a nex with the same FF sensor is highly likely. If Sony is releasing 2 models and nikon one with this sensor my main concern is acan production also support a Pentax withe the same sensor because with this kind of pricing sensor demand will be astronomical compared to previous FF sensors. breaking that $2000 barrier completely changes the demand curve, just like the sub $1000 price also changes the demand curve (the K30 has supposedly sold at about 5 times the rate of the K5 for instance)

thibs · 08-17-2012, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

If Sony comes up with an FF NEX, and Pentax again lags behind, then they are dead. Dead and cremated. Gone. Forgotten. Because why get a Pentax APSC DSLR if you can get a Sony NEX FF for (probably) less money?

I'd ask the opposite but well... Ooooh

eddie1960 · 08-17-2012, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

If Sony comes up with an FF NEX, and Pentax again lags behind, then they are dead. Dead and cremated. Gone. Forgotten. Because why get a Pentax APSC DSLR if you can get a Sony NEX FF for (probably) less money?

Nex FF is more likely around $2000 though since the nex 7 is 12-1300 depending on the dealer

theoicarry · 08-17-2012, 07:03 AM

Interesting I want it. One thing will hold me back and that is the estimated price tag. My wife would have a fit, I already spend enough money on photography, (well) according to her.....

mee · 08-17-2012, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by MouLaG Ôfr

Sonyalpharumors gives to this rumor the rating "SR5=almost certainly correct!" (their highest level of certainty ~= 99%)

Sonyalpharumors is now both making and rating a rumor that pentax is deader than dead??

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08-17-2012, 12:02 AM	#346
LamyTax Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 376	Originally posted by RobA_Oz It would be even nicer to get Voigtlander and Carl Zeiss back in the tent, but I doubt the K30 is the camera to do that. Perhaps the K-5 successor will be the one to do so. Oh yes, their macro and portrait lenses are neat. They're not on eBay as much as I'd like .

08-17-2012, 03:53 AM	#347
Spag Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Berlin Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 118	32 days to go, and still not a single leak or credible rumor.

08-17-2012, 03:56 AM	#348
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	If you remember what happened with the K-5 : announced around september the 10th, available end october 2010. We could be fixed within about 3 weeks

08-17-2012, 04:48 AM	#349
MouLaG Ôfr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brussels Posts: 103	Sony NEX goes Full Frame (?) !!!

08-17-2012, 05:17 AM	#350
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by MouLaG Ôfr Sony NEX goes Full Frame (?) !!! ...That rumor again... If it's true though, then Pentax really is deader then dead.

08-17-2012, 05:22 AM	#351
Verglace Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 468	Please be a full frame, please be a full frame But most likely it wont be

08-17-2012, 06:02 AM	#352
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by LamyTax These images are not the real thing. You can safely assume that early mockups never have much actual substance. All the development still has to be done. Also, to make a very long lens only for APS-C and not for FF doesn't make much sense. The actual differences in design would be almost negligible. The price for such a lens is mainly defined by the glass used, and this is dominated by the front element: 560mm/5.6=100mm. The money you can save for not making it work well on FF is negligible. So that's what you do, you make it for FF. and deciding it's not FF because it is called a DA lens no longer counts with the release of the DA50 which in all marketing is deemed FF compatible

08-17-2012, 06:29 AM	#353
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by eddie1960 and deciding it's not FF because it is called a DA lens no longer counts with the release of the DA50 which in all marketing is deemed FF compatible But it was labeled green on a roadmap! Those colors are legally binding.

08-17-2012, 06:37 AM	#354
MouLaG Ôfr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brussels Posts: 103	Originally posted by Clavius ...That rumor again... If it's true though, then Pentax really is deader then dead. Sonyalpharumors gives to this rumor the rating "SR5=almost certainly correct!" (their highest level of certainty ~= 99%)

08-17-2012, 06:49 AM	#355
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by MouLaG Ôfr Sonyalpharumors gives to this rumor the rating "SR5=almost certainly correct!" (their highest level of certainty ~= 99%) If Sony comes up with an FF NEX, and Pentax again lags behind, then they are dead. Dead and cremated. Gone. Forgotten. Because why get a Pentax APSC DSLR if you can get a Sony NEX FF for (probably) less money?

08-17-2012, 06:52 AM	#356
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	the nex is designed for a FF sensor supposedly so it is only a matter of time and sensor pricing. If the price rumour on the D600 @ 1699 or less is correct and it is a Sony sensor then a nex with the same FF sensor is highly likely. If Sony is releasing 2 models and nikon one with this sensor my main concern is acan production also support a Pentax withe the same sensor because with this kind of pricing sensor demand will be astronomical compared to previous FF sensors. breaking that $2000 barrier completely changes the demand curve, just like the sub $1000 price also changes the demand curve (the K30 has supposedly sold at about 5 times the rate of the K5 for instance)

08-17-2012, 06:53 AM	#357
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Clavius If Sony comes up with an FF NEX, and Pentax again lags behind, then they are dead. Dead and cremated. Gone. Forgotten. Because why get a Pentax APSC DSLR if you can get a Sony NEX FF for (probably) less money? I'd ask the opposite but well... Ooooh

08-17-2012, 06:56 AM	#358
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by Clavius If Sony comes up with an FF NEX, and Pentax again lags behind, then they are dead. Dead and cremated. Gone. Forgotten. Because why get a Pentax APSC DSLR if you can get a Sony NEX FF for (probably) less money? Nex FF is more likely around $2000 though since the nex 7 is 12-1300 depending on the dealer

08-17-2012, 07:03 AM	#359
theoicarry Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 316	Interesting I want it. One thing will hold me back and that is the estimated price tag. My wife would have a fit, I already spend enough money on photography, (well) according to her.....

08-17-2012, 07:06 AM	#360
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by MouLaG Ôfr Sonyalpharumors gives to this rumor the rating "SR5=almost certainly correct!" (their highest level of certainty ~= 99%) Sonyalpharumors is now both making and rating a rumor that pentax is deader than dead??