| there's no such thing as "full frame"
"how long have i been away?" not long it seems, nothing changed.
may i respectfully suggest you "give us a break" (and particularly some people who think their rant is so essential and insightful they should cross post it to several threads. that's beyond rude and narcissistic, some native speaker help me here, i can't find the right word; meanwhile: please just don't #%# do it).
pentax has been facing extinction due to "lack of full frame" for 5 years or so now, at least as long as i've been shooting pentax dslrs. here's the news for you: nobody cares, i'm sorry, but nobody does. it's not my opinion, it's just plain cold fact. the k-5 still rocks, still was loved by many new and old pentaxians, life went on (same goes for k7, k20, k10, etc)
there's been, of course, the very few who put their money where their mouth was, and moved on: bought canon or nikon "full frame" (can we please say 35mm btw? full frame is almost insulting to us humble aps-c shooters). those were few, those are the ones who meant it. many of them stayed on here and kept their "decadents aps-c" pentax gear, you rarely hear them bitch. There's many who are still here, still full-frame-less (sic) and still bitching. It evades me as to "why".
there are many formats in the history of photography. a few medium format ones (645, 66, 67, 69, all completely different btw), the famous 35mm (aka cinematographic format), aps (initially what was, imho, a silly mistake of the "film era", and met with quick failure, which it deserved; but it proved it's worth with the coming of digital imaging technology), 4/3, and the list goes on. What seems to elude most people is that these are different formats. I have never in my life heard somebody bitch about leica not coming up with a 6x6 camera, or 645: people would buy a bronica or whatever they fancied, and get on with it. "full frame" (in fact 35mm) is a different format, it's not a bigger aps-c, it's not "what aps-c tries to be but will never be", in the same way 35mm was never a 6x6 wannabee. In the film days, there were those who bitched about the 35mm inferiority, and how medium format rocks and so on. they usually owned and shot both formats, or at least the medium format, and they still missed the point, anyway, but at least they talked about what they knew and owned (and, in some cases, used).
i'm sorry, but i'm getting a bit sick and tired with this "pentax _needs_ to come with ff or they are dead, i'm jumping ship, i'll set the building on fire, etc". grow up. If you want full frame, go buy it. If you can't afford it, don't expect pentax to make a fully featured ff camera and sell it for 700bucks (just because they managed to sell something like the k-5 for a price well bellow what anybody else asks), when pentax will be able to sell a ff for what you can afford, everybody else will, so please sit down, be quiet, and wait. maybe the time will come. maybe soon. or maybe not so soon, or maybe never. If you care that much, and you think it really matters to you for whatever reason, just save up and buy what's available now, but i think childish threats are not helping anybody.
this has been going on for years now. aps-c is not going anywhere, despite various wishes and pipedreams of some people. it's a different format, has it's place, and will stay. even the (seemingly useless) 4/3 format is still around and doing fine, how come olympus is not dead in the water? (note to self: check if olympus users are bitching that oly must come with aps-c or they will "set the building on fire")
pentax might come with a ff camera, or they might not. if they do, there will be joy. there will be celebrations and parties all over the world. much drinking and dancing and ...ahem.. social interaction. the next day, 10 of those dslr's will be sold, 5 having been bought by pentax forums members (none of which ever said they want ff or they will commit murder). the k5 (or whatever it's successor) and the k30 (or whatever) and so on (the outdated, inferior, useless, dead-at-inception aps-c cameras in the line) will still outsell it 1/100 or more, however you care to count, and nothing would have changed. nothing. even the bitching would go on, somehow.
/me puts on the fireproof cape and walks away, calmly
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