K200D will ship with

**barondla** · 01-27-2008, 06:08 PM

Eveready AA Lithuims! Says so in the lit. Finally we won't have to hear some reviewer say it can only take 70 shots on a set of batteries. Smart move Pentax.
thanks
barondla

mattdm · 01-27-2008, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by barondla

Eveready AA Lithuims! Says so in the lit. Finally we won't have to hear some reviewer say it can only take 70 shots on a set of batteries. Smart move Pentax.

Not only smart for reviews but genuinely nice for consumers -- for a lot of people, they won't have to buy batteries for half a year or more.

Katsura · 01-28-2008, 02:44 AM

Those Lithium AAs are amazing!

I stuck a set in my DS and forget about them for months.

And they are so light as well. Makes my DS feather light.

Watch out for them in Tesco's (if you in UK) <-- they do good deals on them often. And they usually work out cheaper than Duracells (pah).

RiceHigh · 01-28-2008, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by barondla

Eveready AA Lithuims! Says so in the lit. Finally we won't have to hear some reviewer say it can only take 70 shots on a set of batteries. Smart move Pentax.
thanks
barondla

Well, shall we still see or not see end-users keep complaining about the short battery life of their AA *rechargeables* then? Does this help? :-)

p.s. Note that *ist D and DS did ship with a pair of Panasonic Lithium CR-V3, but then..!

superfuzzy · 01-28-2008, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

Well, shall we still see or not see end-users keep complaining about the short battery life of their AA *rechargeables* then? Does this help? :-)

Who's complaining about AA rechargables? With my high quality charger and Sanyo 2500MAh or similar, I get over 100 shots on a charge with my k100d.

Gooshin · 01-28-2008, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by superfuzzy

Who's complaining about AA rechargables? With my high quality charger and Sanyo 2500MAh or similar, I get over 100 shots on a charge with my k100d.

thats actualy very very very bad....

Not Registered · 01-28-2008, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by Gooshin

thats actualy very very very bad....

Ditto. I always have >300 shoots with my eneloops and a lot of flash/preview.

superfuzzy · 01-28-2008, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Gooshin

thats actualy very very very bad....

Over 100 shots is very very very GOOD!!! More like 200+ shots on a charge - I always carry a spare set of AA rechargeables, and don't keep track.

Gooshin · 01-28-2008, 02:47 PM

no, thats very very bad,

enerloop users report upwards of 400-500 shots.

Lithieum users of other cameras easly punch out 400+ shots

and can you be more specific?

100 shots, and 200 shots, are two different things, which is it?

if you have never seriously kept written track of how long a set of batteries lasts you, you're opinions in this matter are hardly valid.

blinxdk · 01-28-2008, 03:10 PM

I know for sure I have gotten over 200 shots with my K100D and random rechargeable batteries (filling a 2GB sdcard in raw). Never counted but I'd guess atleast 300.

mattdm · 01-28-2008, 03:19 PM

For reference, I've been getting an average of 600 shots from my one Pentax battery and two NP-400 Konica-Minolta equivalents in my K10D. And I usually change them as soon as I see the battery low indicator rather than running them all the way down (since they're lithiums).

With my K100D, I routinely got 2500 or more from a set of non-rechargeable lithium CRV3s. If I still had my K100D and had to change batteries every 200 shots, I think I'd go crazy. Well, crazy until I went out and bought more CRV3s.

CSpronken · 01-28-2008, 04:54 PM

I don't wanna put the complain hat on again and I appreciate the gesture with the lithium, but wouldn't it be better just to ship it with one of them hybrid rechargeables? Two reasons:

1 Reviewers will love it, you get the flexibility of AA, but rechargeable and they even keep their load quite good. That would really earn them a few nice compliments.

2 Better consumer experience, not only do they get the rechargeables and the charger, but they also aren't confronted with depleted batteries and the need to research what to buy, read manual, go to shop, spend more money, perhaps buy a NiMH and find out they loose charge.

All that fuss can be avoided just shipping them with those hybrid rechargeables, they are excellent and if people want an extra set or want to replace them they immediately know what batteries to get.

BTW, anyone found out yet if the K200D does now allow those 3.6V RCRV3's now?

nosnoop · 01-28-2008, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by CSpronken

I don't wanna put the complain hat on again and I appreciate the gesture with the lithium, but wouldn't it be better just to ship it with one of them hybrid rechargeables?

Probably because they want to save the cost of packaging in a charger. Otherwise, they could have included any traditional NiMH battery+charger, and it would be cheaper than hybrid/eneloop.

Mike Cash · 01-29-2008, 02:53 AM

I usually get probably 300 to 400 with my Eneloop 2000mAh. But I don't use auto-focus and use the review only sparingly. I have to say I have never understood all the complaints about the K100D and battery life. So long as I have one more set of Eneloops charged up in the bag I'm good to go. I do carry around either an 8-pack or 12-pack of regular AAs for flash use, and they could be pressed into camera service in a pinch.

CSpronken · 01-29-2008, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by nosnoop

Probably because they want to save the cost of packaging in a charger. Otherwise, they could have included any traditional NiMH battery+charger, and it would be cheaper than hybrid/eneloop.

I have 2 problems with shipping with NiMH batteries and charger:

1 They loose their charge which is annoying and deteriorates the customers product experience.

2 A lot of buyers will still not know how convenient AA can be because they never find out about the hybrid ones.

I reckon it would be a smart and worthwhile investment for them.

01-27-2008, 06:08 PM	#1
barondla Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: midwest, United States Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,713	K200D will ship with Eveready AA Lithuims! Says so in the lit. Finally we won't have to hear some reviewer say it can only take 70 shots on a set of batteries. Smart move Pentax. thanks barondla

01-28-2008, 04:54 PM	#12
CSpronken Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 105	I don't wanna put the complain hat on again and I appreciate the gesture with the lithium, but wouldn't it be better just to ship it with one of them hybrid rechargeables? Two reasons: 1 Reviewers will love it, you get the flexibility of AA, but rechargeable and they even keep their load quite good. That would really earn them a few nice compliments. 2 Better consumer experience, not only do they get the rechargeables and the charger, but they also aren't confronted with depleted batteries and the need to research what to buy, read manual, go to shop, spend more money, perhaps buy a NiMH and find out they loose charge. All that fuss can be avoided just shipping them with those hybrid rechargeables, they are excellent and if people want an extra set or want to replace them they immediately know what batteries to get. BTW, anyone found out yet if the K200D does now allow those 3.6V RCRV3's now? Last edited by CSpronken; 01-28-2008 at 05:02 PM.

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01-27-2008, 06:26 PM	#2
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by barondla Eveready AA Lithuims! Says so in the lit. Finally we won't have to hear some reviewer say it can only take 70 shots on a set of batteries. Smart move Pentax. Not only smart for reviews but genuinely nice for consumers -- for a lot of people, they won't have to buy batteries for half a year or more.

01-28-2008, 02:44 AM	#3
Katsura Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Noosa, Queesnland Photos: Albums Posts: 199	Those Lithium AAs are amazing! I stuck a set in my DS and forget about them for months. And they are so light as well. Makes my DS feather light. Watch out for them in Tesco's (if you in UK) <-- they do good deals on them often. And they usually work out cheaper than Duracells (pah).

01-28-2008, 04:50 AM	#4
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	Originally posted by barondla Eveready AA Lithuims! Says so in the lit. Finally we won't have to hear some reviewer say it can only take 70 shots on a set of batteries. Smart move Pentax. thanks barondla Well, shall we still see or not see end-users keep complaining about the short battery life of their AA rechargeables then? Does this help? :-) p.s. Note that *ist D and DS did ship with a pair of Panasonic Lithium CR-V3, but then..!

01-28-2008, 01:58 PM	#5
superfuzzy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ, USA (close to NYC) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 278	Originally posted by RiceHigh Well, shall we still see or not see end-users keep complaining about the short battery life of their AA rechargeables then? Does this help? :-) Who's complaining about AA rechargables? With my high quality charger and Sanyo 2500MAh or similar, I get over 100 shots on a charge with my k100d.

01-28-2008, 02:00 PM	#6
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	Originally posted by superfuzzy Who's complaining about AA rechargables? With my high quality charger and Sanyo 2500MAh or similar, I get over 100 shots on a charge with my k100d. thats actualy very very very bad....

01-28-2008, 02:06 PM	#7
Not Registered Guest	Originally posted by Gooshin thats actualy very very very bad.... Ditto. I always have >300 shoots with my eneloops and a lot of flash/preview.

01-28-2008, 02:41 PM	#8
superfuzzy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ, USA (close to NYC) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 278	Originally posted by Gooshin thats actualy very very very bad.... Over 100 shots is very very very GOOD!!! More like 200+ shots on a charge - I always carry a spare set of AA rechargeables, and don't keep track.

01-28-2008, 02:47 PM	#9
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	no, thats very very bad, enerloop users report upwards of 400-500 shots. Lithieum users of other cameras easly punch out 400+ shots and can you be more specific? 100 shots, and 200 shots, are two different things, which is it? if you have never seriously kept written track of how long a set of batteries lasts you, you're opinions in this matter are hardly valid.

01-28-2008, 03:10 PM	#10
blinxdk Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 52	I know for sure I have gotten over 200 shots with my K100D and random rechargeable batteries (filling a 2GB sdcard in raw). Never counted but I'd guess atleast 300.

01-28-2008, 03:19 PM	#11
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	For reference, I've been getting an average of 600 shots from my one Pentax battery and two NP-400 Konica-Minolta equivalents in my K10D. And I usually change them as soon as I see the battery low indicator rather than running them all the way down (since they're lithiums). With my K100D, I routinely got 2500 or more from a set of non-rechargeable lithium CRV3s. If I still had my K100D and had to change batteries every 200 shots, I think I'd go crazy. Well, crazy until I went out and bought more CRV3s.

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01-28-2008, 10:55 PM	#13
nosnoop Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,299	Originally posted by CSpronken I don't wanna put the complain hat on again and I appreciate the gesture with the lithium, but wouldn't it be better just to ship it with one of them hybrid rechargeables? Probably because they want to save the cost of packaging in a charger. Otherwise, they could have included any traditional NiMH battery+charger, and it would be cheaper than hybrid/eneloop.

01-29-2008, 02:53 AM	#14
Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	I usually get probably 300 to 400 with my Eneloop 2000mAh. But I don't use auto-focus and use the review only sparingly. I have to say I have never understood all the complaints about the K100D and battery life. So long as I have one more set of Eneloops charged up in the bag I'm good to go. I do carry around either an 8-pack or 12-pack of regular AAs for flash use, and they could be pressed into camera service in a pinch.

01-29-2008, 10:38 AM	#15
CSpronken Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 105	Originally posted by nosnoop Probably because they want to save the cost of packaging in a charger. Otherwise, they could have included any traditional NiMH battery+charger, and it would be cheaper than hybrid/eneloop. I have 2 problems with shipping with NiMH batteries and charger: 1 They loose their charge which is annoying and deteriorates the customers product experience. 2 A lot of buyers will still not know how convenient AA can be because they never find out about the hybrid ones. I reckon it would be a smart and worthwhile investment for them.