K5 replacement

Brian Mould · 08-02-2012, 06:26 PM - **1 Like**

Had an interesting talk with someone who knows.The future 24 mp replacement which will be delayed about 6 months or so.Expect a re-release of the K5 as a K5 II or something like that.He was disappointed that Canon and Nikon will have the jump on them but was confident the new model to be won`t disappoint.He did give me a chance to try out the pentax Q which took amazing clear pictures which he said contradicts the nay sayers who look at the size of the sensor and dismiss without trying it.I was impressed.As he knows I`m an astronomer he told me about pentax`s astronomy add on (only for the K5 I believe) that will track the stars while mounted on a fixed tripod.It does this by moving the sensor inside the camera body.I don`t know how long it tracks for, just depends on the range of motion it has but on the K5 with its high ISO abillities it should produce amazing wide angle shots of the night sky without having to purchase a telescope mount if you don`t already have one.I hadn`t heard about this before so if anyone else has maybe they can explain it a bit better.Don`t expect too much web content from pentax in the future,they want to put their resources into buiding great cameras instead of battling rumors or at least up here in Canada.I felt good after that pentax was moving in a direction that will keep me as a supporter( though budget wise I just can`t afford the lastest but will snap up a K5 when the newer model appears...my K10 serves me well).Keep the faith...good things are coming

bossa · 08-02-2012, 06:36 PM

I doubt this 'news' is true frankly. Pentax released both the K-01 & K-30 within a short time frame so I cannot see a reason to delay the K-5 replacement for 6 months.

Adam · 08-02-2012, 06:44 PM

Full-frame is where the whole DSLR industry is heading IMO...I hope Pentax follows suit with such a model within the coming year, now that even point-and-shoot cameras are being made with APS-C sensors.

PentaxRev · 08-02-2012, 06:54 PM

I may change my opinion, but presently I just want the best quality 1.5 sensor I can find. I have bought the glass I have in my kit to correspond with the 1.5 crop factor. Perhaps if I ever switch to a full frame sensor I will change my mind.

bossa · 08-02-2012, 06:59 PM

The features of a K-30 are almost 'all you need' for an APS-C camera. I can't see a K-5 replacement being released at 3x the price of the K-30 though and will suggest there will be a K-02 released as well at around the same price as the k-5 replacement AND that a space is being reserved at a higher price for a FF. You can get a K-30 body from eGlobal for A$650 right now.

Wired · 08-02-2012, 07:32 PM

why does everyone think/seem so focused on a K-02 coming so quick after the K-01. The K-01 hasn't even been out for a year yet....

krugorg · 08-02-2012, 07:51 PM

I hope a K-02 comes out soon. Not to beat a well-dead horse, but a couple tweaks like a tilt screen and the option of an external viewfinder would make a huge difference. But... I think it would make sense for Pentax to release a new APS-C based compact system (new mount, lenses) instead, and then focus on FF for the DSLR side.

I would be okay with a K5 with 24mpx APS-C sensor, if they don't have the same corner issues that Sony seems to have in their implementation. Not sure if it is the AA filter, microlenses, diffraction or what.

bossa · 08-02-2012, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by Wired

why does everyone think/seem so focused on a K-02 coming so quick after the K-01. The K-01 hasn't even been out for a year yet....

For the same reason that people want a K-5 replacement so soon after the K-30.

pinholecam · 08-02-2012, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by bossa

The features of a K-30 are almost 'all you need' for an APS-C camera. I can't see a K-5 replacement being released at 3x the price of the K-30 though and will suggest there will be a K-02 released as well at around the same price as the k-5 replacement AND that a space is being reserved at a higher price for a FF. You can get a K-30 body from eGlobal for A$650 right now.

I agree.
There also seems to be some stagnation on sensor performance wrt APS-C.
Canon is still stuck with the 18mp since 550D and the Sony 16mp has proliferated over the past 2yrs to many models.
The Sony 24mp seems to be a trade off here and there.
In fact, Nikon offering it on the D3200 seems to suggest that Nikon has dismissed it as 'fit for entry level'

I'd welcome a half year delay if it means the new K-? will be much improved over a K5 in AF, sensor, features.
It may impact Pentax negatively though for a short period as some loose faith and migrate or laymen opt for the latest of cameras thinking that newer is better.

Anyway, its just a rumor....

haoto · 08-02-2012, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by krugorg

I hope a K-02 comes out soon. Not to beat a well-dead horse, but a couple tweaks like a tilt screen and the option of an external viewfinder would make a huge difference. But... I think it would make sense for Pentax to release a new APS-C based compact system (new mount, lenses) instead, and then focus on FF for the DSLR side.

My main complaint with K-01 is the weight. If they can make the K-02 100g lighter I'll dump my m43 system and forget about the EOS-M.

joe.penn · 08-02-2012, 11:37 PM

If a replacement for the K5 don't come out soon, my replacement may be the SD1 with the X3 sensor (well, not a replacement for my K5 just another body to do some specialty stuff with)...

Raffwal · 08-02-2012, 11:43 PM

Brian, that "astronomy add on" you mention was already released last year.

ASTROTRACER | GPS UNIT O-GPS1 | PENTAX RICOH IMAGING

**Fontan** · 08-03-2012, 12:31 AM - **1 Like**

We absolutely need more threads like this one.

mee · 08-03-2012, 07:34 PM - **1 Like**

I appreciate the info.. even if just rumors at this point.

However, I'm wondering if you would be willing to break your thoughts into paragraphs in the future? It is rather hard to read a wall of text.

LXNights · 08-03-2012, 09:32 PM

I enjoy the APS-C cameras, I have a K10D and K-7. I hope to buy a Tamron 10-24mm for my super wide. Should the FF come out, and I hope it does, I'm ready with lenses such as my Pentax 15mm f/3.5. Sometimes it's been difficult, but sticking with pentax has allowed me to save a ton of money because of lens compatibility, and now I can handle whatever way they go. That said, bring on the FF, Pentax-Ricoh.

08-02-2012, 06:26 PM - 1 Like	#1
Brian Mould Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Central Ontario Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 57	K5 replacement Had an interesting talk with someone who knows.The future 24 mp replacement which will be delayed about 6 months or so.Expect a re-release of the K5 as a K5 II or something like that.He was disappointed that Canon and Nikon will have the jump on them but was confident the new model to be won`t disappoint.He did give me a chance to try out the pentax Q which took amazing clear pictures which he said contradicts the nay sayers who look at the size of the sensor and dismiss without trying it.I was impressed.As he knows I`m an astronomer he told me about pentax`s astronomy add on (only for the K5 I believe) that will track the stars while mounted on a fixed tripod.It does this by moving the sensor inside the camera body.I don`t know how long it tracks for, just depends on the range of motion it has but on the K5 with its high ISO abillities it should produce amazing wide angle shots of the night sky without having to purchase a telescope mount if you don`t already have one.I hadn`t heard about this before so if anyone else has maybe they can explain it a bit better.Don`t expect too much web content from pentax in the future,they want to put their resources into buiding great cameras instead of battling rumors or at least up here in Canada.I felt good after that pentax was moving in a direction that will keep me as a supporter( though budget wise I just can`t afford the lastest but will snap up a K5 when the newer model appears...my K10 serves me well).Keep the faith...good things are coming

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08-02-2012, 06:36 PM	#2
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	I doubt this 'news' is true frankly. Pentax released both the K-01 & K-30 within a short time frame so I cannot see a reason to delay the K-5 replacement for 6 months.

08-02-2012, 06:54 PM	#4
PentaxRev Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 141	I may change my opinion, but presently I just want the best quality 1.5 sensor I can find. I have bought the glass I have in my kit to correspond with the 1.5 crop factor. Perhaps if I ever switch to a full frame sensor I will change my mind.

08-02-2012, 06:59 PM	#5
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	The features of a K-30 are almost 'all you need' for an APS-C camera. I can't see a K-5 replacement being released at 3x the price of the K-30 though and will suggest there will be a K-02 released as well at around the same price as the k-5 replacement AND that a space is being reserved at a higher price for a FF. You can get a K-30 body from eGlobal for A$650 right now.

08-02-2012, 07:32 PM	#6
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	why does everyone think/seem so focused on a K-02 coming so quick after the K-01. The K-01 hasn't even been out for a year yet....

08-02-2012, 07:51 PM	#7
krugorg Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 70	I hope a K-02 comes out soon. Not to beat a well-dead horse, but a couple tweaks like a tilt screen and the option of an external viewfinder would make a huge difference. But... I think it would make sense for Pentax to release a new APS-C based compact system (new mount, lenses) instead, and then focus on FF for the DSLR side. I would be okay with a K5 with 24mpx APS-C sensor, if they don't have the same corner issues that Sony seems to have in their implementation. Not sure if it is the AA filter, microlenses, diffraction or what.

08-02-2012, 07:55 PM	#8
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	Originally posted by Wired why does everyone think/seem so focused on a K-02 coming so quick after the K-01. The K-01 hasn't even been out for a year yet.... For the same reason that people want a K-5 replacement so soon after the K-30.

08-02-2012, 08:15 PM	#9
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,709	Originally posted by bossa The features of a K-30 are almost 'all you need' for an APS-C camera. I can't see a K-5 replacement being released at 3x the price of the K-30 though and will suggest there will be a K-02 released as well at around the same price as the k-5 replacement AND that a space is being reserved at a higher price for a FF. You can get a K-30 body from eGlobal for A$650 right now. I agree. There also seems to be some stagnation on sensor performance wrt APS-C. Canon is still stuck with the 18mp since 550D and the Sony 16mp has proliferated over the past 2yrs to many models. The Sony 24mp seems to be a trade off here and there. In fact, Nikon offering it on the D3200 seems to suggest that Nikon has dismissed it as 'fit for entry level' I'd welcome a half year delay if it means the new K-? will be much improved over a K5 in AF, sensor, features. It may impact Pentax negatively though for a short period as some loose faith and migrate or laymen opt for the latest of cameras thinking that newer is better. Anyway, its just a rumor....

08-02-2012, 11:19 PM	#10
haoto New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Taipei Posts: 18	Originally posted by krugorg I hope a K-02 comes out soon. Not to beat a well-dead horse, but a couple tweaks like a tilt screen and the option of an external viewfinder would make a huge difference. But... I think it would make sense for Pentax to release a new APS-C based compact system (new mount, lenses) instead, and then focus on FF for the DSLR side. My main complaint with K-01 is the weight. If they can make the K-02 100g lighter I'll dump my m43 system and forget about the EOS-M.

08-02-2012, 11:37 PM	#11
joe.penn Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Maryland (Right Outside Washington DC) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,902	If a replacement for the K5 don't come out soon, my replacement may be the SD1 with the X3 sensor (well, not a replacement for my K5 just another body to do some specialty stuff with)...

08-02-2012, 11:43 PM	#12
Raffwal Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The North Posts: 879	Brian, that "astronomy add on" you mention was already released last year. ASTROTRACER \| GPS UNIT O-GPS1 \| PENTAX RICOH IMAGING

08-03-2012, 12:31 AM - 1 Like	#13
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	We absolutely need more threads like this one.

08-03-2012, 07:34 PM - 1 Like	#14
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	I appreciate the info.. even if just rumors at this point. However, I'm wondering if you would be willing to break your thoughts into paragraphs in the future? It is rather hard to read a wall of text.

08-03-2012, 09:32 PM	#15
LXNights Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New England Photos: Gallery Posts: 150	I enjoy the APS-C cameras, I have a K10D and K-7. I hope to buy a Tamron 10-24mm for my super wide. Should the FF come out, and I hope it does, I'm ready with lenses such as my Pentax 15mm f/3.5. Sometimes it's been difficult, but sticking with pentax has allowed me to save a ton of money because of lens compatibility, and now I can handle whatever way they go. That said, bring on the FF, Pentax-Ricoh.