Pentax X-5 officially announced...

jogiba · 08-23-2012, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by Dukiez

It may use only the live view from the LCD. Like other compact camera today.

It has an evf.

Philoslothical · 08-23-2012, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Kenn100D

SAMPLE from Pentax.jp

http://www.pentax.jp/japan/products/x-5/ex/img/bod_img_02_LB.jpg

Horrible. Very disappointing. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a compact camera sensor, but the artifacts in that... If they released this as a sample of what they think is good, imagine how it will perform in real life situations.

Bramela · 08-23-2012, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Horrible. Very disappointing. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a compact camera sensor, but the artifacts in that... If they released this as a sample of what they think is good, imagine how it will perform in real life situations.

I think that for a camera under $300 the results don't look all that bad.

jogiba · 08-23-2012, 06:50 PM

You Tube

Alizarine · 08-23-2012, 07:00 PM

looks good enough for a straight jpeg shot to me. I don't expect all that 16mp to be used much for printing anyway, maybe just for social networking sites and good-time photography. Worth the $280 I guess.

ogl · 08-23-2012, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by Philoslothical

Horrible. Very disappointing. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a compact camera sensor, but the artifacts in that... If they released this as a sample of what they think is good, imagine how it will perform in real life situations.

Not bad, if we have a look at picture in 30-50%. It's P&S camera, ultra-zoom with tiny sensor.

It's SONY RX100 - better, but...It's P&S compact camera
All sizes | RX100, full size | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexey_egorov/7798967354/in/photostream
see 100% - do you like it?

**pentaximus** · 08-23-2012, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

It has an evf.

Some interesting "state of the industry" comments on evf's from Imaging Resource's overview of the X-5:

Quote:

The Pentax X-5 also offers an electronic viewfinder. That's not unique, by any means, but even in long-zoom cameras it's becoming less common. The X-5 is one of just three 26x zoom models announced so far this year with an EVF, along with two Fuji cameras; competitors from Kodak, Nikon, and Olympus all lack a finder. In fact, a quick look over the camera announcements we've covered this year suggests that of at least 30 cameras announced so far this year with more than a 20x optical zoom, almost two thirds had no viewfinder. In terms of resolution, the Pentax X-5's electronic viewfinder sits near the entry level, with a dot count (230k dots) similar to that of Fujifilm's FinePix S4300, and far below the 1,440,000 dots of the Fuji X-S1. That's to be expected when one considers their respective pricing, though.

The X-S1 has a current street price of $600 new.

fikkser · 08-24-2012, 01:28 AM

Viewfinder Electronic Viewfinder, approx. 230K dots. Equipped the with diopter adjustment dial.

Kill it with fire!

**baldeagle21b** · 08-24-2012, 02:54 AM

Originally posted by Philoslothical

Horrible. Very disappointing. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a compact camera sensor, but the artifacts in that... If they released this as a sample of what they think is good, imagine how it will perform in real life situations.

Official samples are frequently very bad. Real life photos are often much better than what the press releases show so refrain from judging the
results until real users submit photos.

RonHendriks1966 · 08-24-2012, 04:52 AM

Originally posted by Philoslothical

Horrible. Very disappointing. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a compact camera sensor, but the artifacts in that... If they released this as a sample of what they think is good, imagine how it will perform in real life situations.

This shot is at the long end off the zoom and with open aperture at f5.9 allready into the limits of the tiny sensor. I think for that it is a great shot.

jogiba · 08-24-2012, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by fikkser

Viewfinder Electronic Viewfinder, approx. 230K dots. Equipped the with diopter adjustment dial.

Kill it with fire!

Then get the Panasonic GH2 with 1,530,000-dot EVF and swing out touch screen LCD.

gazonk · 08-24-2012, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

Then get the Panasonic GH2 with 1,530,000-dot EVF and swing out touch screen LCD.

But then the point (if there ever was one, but The People seems to think so) of buying a "bridge" camera would disappear - or is there a compact 11-290 mm zoom for m43?

**boriscleto** · 08-24-2012, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

Then get the Panasonic GH2 with 1,530,000-dot EVF and swing out touch screen LCD.

I mean, there's only a $500 price difference

beholder3 · 08-24-2012, 06:08 AM

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eddie1960 · 08-24-2012, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

I mean, there's only a $500 price difference

and no superzoom lens for it.

People, the point of a superzoom is to be everything in one small compactish camera (and this is compact comparatively) the client for these things is as follow
1. LIMITED BUDGET
2. WANTS IT ALL
3. SEE # !

08-23-2012, 05:53 PM	#47
Philoslothical Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,889	Originally posted by Kenn100D SAMPLE from Pentax.jp http://www.pentax.jp/japan/products/x-5/ex/img/bod_img_02_LB.jpg Horrible. Very disappointing. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a compact camera sensor, but the artifacts in that... If they released this as a sample of what they think is good, imagine how it will perform in real life situations. Last edited by Bramela; 08-23-2012 at 06:09 PM.

08-23-2012, 07:31 PM	#51
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Philoslothical Horrible. Very disappointing. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a compact camera sensor, but the artifacts in that... If they released this as a sample of what they think is good, imagine how it will perform in real life situations. Not bad, if we have a look at picture in 30-50%. It's P&S camera, ultra-zoom with tiny sensor. It's SONY RX100 - better, but...It's P&S compact camera All sizes \| RX100, full size \| Flickr - Photo Sharing! http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexey_egorov/7798967354/in/photostream see 100% - do you like it? Last edited by ogl; 08-23-2012 at 10:13 PM.

08-24-2012, 06:08 AM	#59
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	[deleted] Last edited by beholder3; 08-12-2013 at 01:42 AM. Reason: [deleted]

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08-23-2012, 05:18 PM	#46
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by Dukiez It may use only the live view from the LCD. Like other compact camera today. It has an evf.

08-23-2012, 06:11 PM	#48
Bramela Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Newcastle Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,284	Quote: Horrible. Very disappointing. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a compact camera sensor, but the artifacts in that... If they released this as a sample of what they think is good, imagine how it will perform in real life situations. I think that for a camera under $300 the results don't look all that bad.

08-23-2012, 07:00 PM	#50
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	looks good enough for a straight jpeg shot to me. I don't expect all that 16mp to be used much for printing anyway, maybe just for social networking sites and good-time photography. Worth the $280 I guess.

08-23-2012, 08:06 PM	#52
pentaximus Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Covington, Georgia Photos: Gallery Posts: 926	Originally posted by jogiba It has an evf. Some interesting "state of the industry" comments on evf's from Imaging Resource's overview of the X-5: Quote: The Pentax X-5 also offers an electronic viewfinder. That's not unique, by any means, but even in long-zoom cameras it's becoming less common. The X-5 is one of just three 26x zoom models announced so far this year with an EVF, along with two Fuji cameras; competitors from Kodak, Nikon, and Olympus all lack a finder. In fact, a quick look over the camera announcements we've covered this year suggests that of at least 30 cameras announced so far this year with more than a 20x optical zoom, almost two thirds had no viewfinder. In terms of resolution, the Pentax X-5's electronic viewfinder sits near the entry level, with a dot count (230k dots) similar to that of Fujifilm's FinePix S4300, and far below the 1,440,000 dots of the Fuji X-S1. That's to be expected when one considers their respective pricing, though. The X-S1 has a current street price of $600 new.

08-24-2012, 01:28 AM	#53
fikkser Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Borlänge, Sweden Posts: 373	Viewfinder Electronic Viewfinder, approx. 230K dots. Equipped the with diopter adjustment dial. Kill it with fire!

08-24-2012, 02:54 AM	#54
baldeagle21b Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 223	Originally posted by Philoslothical Horrible. Very disappointing. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a compact camera sensor, but the artifacts in that... If they released this as a sample of what they think is good, imagine how it will perform in real life situations. Official samples are frequently very bad. Real life photos are often much better than what the press releases show so refrain from judging the results until real users submit photos.

08-24-2012, 04:52 AM	#55
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Philoslothical Horrible. Very disappointing. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a compact camera sensor, but the artifacts in that... If they released this as a sample of what they think is good, imagine how it will perform in real life situations. This shot is at the long end off the zoom and with open aperture at f5.9 allready into the limits of the tiny sensor. I think for that it is a great shot.

08-24-2012, 05:54 AM	#56
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by fikkser Viewfinder Electronic Viewfinder, approx. 230K dots. Equipped the with diopter adjustment dial. Kill it with fire! Then get the Panasonic GH2 with 1,530,000-dot EVF and swing out touch screen LCD.

08-24-2012, 05:58 AM	#57
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by jogiba Then get the Panasonic GH2 with 1,530,000-dot EVF and swing out touch screen LCD. But then the point (if there ever was one, but The People seems to think so) of buying a "bridge" camera would disappear - or is there a compact 11-290 mm zoom for m43?

08-24-2012, 06:00 AM	#58
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by jogiba Then get the Panasonic GH2 with 1,530,000-dot EVF and swing out touch screen LCD. I mean, there's only a $500 price difference

08-24-2012, 06:09 AM	#60
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by boriscleto I mean, there's only a $500 price difference and no superzoom lens for it. People, the point of a superzoom is to be everything in one small compactish camera (and this is compact comparatively) the client for these things is as follow 1. LIMITED BUDGET 2. WANTS IT ALL 3. SEE # !