Originally posted by *isteve Who said it was a bad idea, its a bad idea for Pentax right now is all.
The whole premise of this FF fanaticism is that FF is getting cheaper. Well I see no evidence of this, nor do I see any evidence that Canon are making a profit from it and if they can't no-one can. As holy grails go its a bit thin on success.
Pentax need to focus their tiny investment dollars where the revenue and profit is (APS low and mid-range) until the situation changes. When it changes why should they go full frame anyway? Why not some totally different format? They don't make FF lenses anymore so why bother making an FF camera - why not something bigger?
Totally agree with you Steve, on all points.
The decision to stay with APS-C is the only sensible solution for Pentax at the moment. I also suspect it's the sensible solution for the other makers as well, but they seem happy to encourage the FF'wits by happily plunging down that loss leading road, well, good luck to 'em!
I suspect that Pentax are very carefully watching the market trends (you and I both know the internal professionally sourced statistical information that Pentax are basing their future planning on!) and will make the correct decision for the
majority of Pentax customers who appreciate that Pentax are making photo equipment that is appropriate to both them and the company.
As far as a larger sensor is concerned, I was very surprised at the number of 645 users at last years Focus on Imaging UK expo that are still looking forward to a 645D body, and I'm sure it's the same globally. I also feel that the engineers are much in favour of a 645D body rather than FF'ing stupidity, after all, they already have a bigger mount with existing lens designs (with many in the field already), an up to date digital body design already developed and they won't need to bring a vast range of new lenses (1 to 2 decent zooms and 3 to 4 primes) or accessories to market in order to gain an acceptable ROI. The challenge is the sensor.
We have discussed this personally between ourselves at some length
and as some may be aware, the big Kodak sensors originally intended for the 645D have pretty poor high ISO noise (i.e 400 and above) and I suspect that is the reason for the decision not to go ahead with the 645D project at this time.
If Samsung are willing to fabricate a suitable CMOS sensor for Pentax in small numbers rather than decide that they want Pentax to make them a FF'ing body in order to challenge their arch rival Sony, then this could well be a deal breaker.
This whole FF'ing debate is stirred up by a few FF'wits that either crazily believe that by screaming from the rooftops, Pentax will listen to their loony tunes, or they are plants from the competition (probably some junior nerds in their marketing departments told to go cause trouble) in order to wind up the newbies, shallow thinkers and the FF'anatics to a dissenting frenzy in order to propagate a load of FUD!
First we get the FPS issue, then the AF issue and now it's the FF'ing issue. Yes, I am mad about it all. It's crass paranoia and stupidity. Bah! Humbug!
For all you out there who think I'm spouting a line because of NDA's etc., some enlightenment. I don't have an NDA, I just know how to keep my word when I give it and am a free agent, there are many things I have thought would be good for Pentax to do, but I don't slam them in public, I often ask questions of others and I make my representations (and on behalf of many others as well) to them directly and privately. If you don't like what I have to say, ignore it, move on (preferably to another brand and leave this forum alone, it's actually called Pentax Forums you know) and may your God be with you.
For those of you with sensitive dispositions, I apologise in advance if I offend, I just trust you know where I'm directing my rant and why.