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09-05-2012, 02:25 AM   #151
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
I only have one real WR lens: the 18-135. I thought a superzoom would be the only logical choice because when it's moist/rainy/dusty I don't want to have to change lenses either.
So you fully submerged the 18-135? That's interesting, I thought the "WR" lenses weren't necessarily quite as well-sealed as the * lenses.

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QuoteOriginally posted by LamyTax Quote
You're not actually disagreeing with what I've said.
I think you'll find that I did. The difference between getting the photos I wanted and not getting the photos can not be overrated - it's the entire point of the exercise. And I apologise for not stressing the nature of the rain sufficiently:

torrential 
1. pertaining to or having the nature of a torrent.
2. resembling a torrent in rapidity or violence.

torrent 
a rushing, violent, or abundant and unceasing stream of anything.

Torrential rain != softly dripping water

@gazonk: I was using a DA*50-135 for most of the day, I never experienced the SDM issue with any of my DA* lenses - guess I got lucky.

@clavius: I derive a ridiculous amount of pleasure from that as well, especially on the couple of occasions when moments before I was being sneered at for brandishing a Pentax. Childish perhaps, but you have to enjoy the little things...

Anyway, I can't wait for the upcoming announcements! Come on Pentax, show us what you've got!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Vormulac Quote
I think you'll find that I did. The difference between getting the photos I wanted and not getting the photos can not be overrated - it's the entire point of the exercise. And I apologise for not stressing the nature of the rain sufficiently:

torrential 
1. pertaining to or having the nature of a torrent.
2. resembling a torrent in rapidity or violence.

torrent 
a rushing, violent, or abundant and unceasing stream of anything.

Torrential rain != softly dripping water

@gazonk: I was using a DA*50-135 for most of the day, I never experienced the SDM issue with any of my DA* lenses - guess I got lucky.

@clavius: I derive a ridiculous amount of pleasure from that as well, especially on the couple of occasions when moments before I was being sneered at for brandishing a Pentax. Childish perhaps, but you have to enjoy the little things...

Anyway, I can't wait for the upcoming announcements! Come on Pentax, show us what you've got!
Have you read my later post? Do you know that free-falling water is... free-falling water?
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QuoteOriginally posted by LamyTax Quote
Have you read my later post? Do you know that free-falling water is... free-falling water?
I did indeed, and although that as usual I agree with most of what you said, I was referring to the earlier comment - the one I quoted. Water driven by, shall we say 'spirited' weather is not the same as softly dripping water.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Vormulac Quote
I did indeed, and although that as usual I agree with most of what you said, I was referring to the earlier comment - the one I quoted. Water driven by, shall we say 'spirited' weather is not the same as softly dripping water.
This might be a word definition problem, the way I've learned it, it's not a storm unless there's a significant amount of wind involved. Rain drops are governed by gravity only, unless there's wind.

Here, that should clarify what I mean:
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QuoteOriginally posted by Vormulac Quote
I think you'll find that I did. The difference between getting the photos I wanted and not getting the photos can not be overrated - it's the entire point of the exercise. And I apologise for not stressing the nature of the rain sufficiently:

torrential 
1. pertaining to or having the nature of a torrent.
2. resembling a torrent in rapidity or violence.

torrent 
a rushing, violent, or abundant and unceasing stream of anything.

Torrential rain != softly dripping water

@gazonk: I was using a DA*50-135 for most of the day, I never experienced the SDM issue with any of my DA* lenses - guess I got lucky.

@clavius: I derive a ridiculous amount of pleasure from that as well, especially on the couple of occasions when moments before I was being sneered at for brandishing a Pentax. Childish perhaps, but you have to enjoy the little things...

Anyway, I can't wait for the upcoming announcements! Come on Pentax, show us what you've got!
I was caught in a downpour while hiking with my K100 and it didn't survive. Didn't really even shoot with it much after the rain started, but I guess enough that the water got through the seals and into the electronics. On the other hand, I have shot in heavy rain with K10, K20, K7 and K5 and DA * lenses and had no issues. To me, this is a significant improvement over prior/non-sealed cameras. I am not really wanting to shoot underwater dolphin shows, just to be able to know that I can go out in inclement weather without worrying about my camera and lenses.
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Pentax has some good weathersealing, as illustrated by Heie below:



Lots of WR images here:

Re: Post your WR picture: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

Re: Post your WR picture: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

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Anyone want to wager on the actual announcement date/time?..... less than two weeks out from Photokina commencement. Is Pentax Germany going to get all the fun, or are we going to see a Japan announcement ahead of the event?

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I'm going to go with the 'new' rumor of 9/9... the only problem with that date is that it's a Sunday.

I'm being optimistic... that Pentax is going to announce it's cameras before the Nikon D600 gets all the press.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Edvinas Quote
Isn't one year warranty typical in USA?
Perhaps but I don't have to like it ;~) I do like the Sigma 3-6 year warranty.
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QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
Pentax has some good weathersealing, as illustrated by Hele2 below:
is there any sense in such tests?
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QuoteOriginally posted by dadipentak Quote
Still a one-year warranty. Why does Pentax have so little confidence in their products?
Ask Pentax US, in Canada it is 2 years
I think the lenses should be 5 myself and 2 on bodies
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
is there any sense in such tests?
There is, in building at least some confidence in the user that the gear will withstand conditions he/she would otherwise avoid for fear of ruining the valuable gear.
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There is, in building at least some confidence in the user that the gear will withstand conditions he/she would otherwise avoid for fear of ruining the valuable gear.
I agree. and in a user sense. Seeing a fellow Pentax user (not some guy in some lab doing well-controlled tests) unleash nature, however simple, on "sealed" delicate electronics is a feat a lot of us aren't willing to risk. Heie practically risked dumping thousands of dollars' worth of equipment to instill that confidence in the flagship camera and lenses...

uh i think i just repeated what Ash said haha
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And it really shows those 7D owners what's up.
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