First signs of upcoming Pentax K-3 appearing...

Docrwm · 09-03-2012, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by LamyTax

Which uses the leaked D600 photo made on a wooden table as a product photo?
Are Nikon's product photography standards this low?

Nikon could transmit to their distributors the order information without having transmitted the marketing packet, happens a lot when something is just released. Adorama will often have the specs on a device but no picture in the initial stages of that device having been offered for sale.

rawr · 09-03-2012, 08:36 AM

If the K-3 is the Sony 24MP APS-C sensor, the timing of it is interesting and seems to confirm how the industry works, with Sony going first with its sensor, then letting Nikon go about 6 months later, then Pentax:

NEX-7/ A77/ A65 - end August 2011
D3200 - April 2012
K-3 - September 2012

If anything happens on FF, it will probably go on a similar schedule.

bobell69 · 09-03-2012, 08:47 AM

So if the K3 is promoted as a high end (Professional?) Camera, what specs do you think it includes that separates it from the K5?

RonHendriks1966 · 09-03-2012, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by bobell69

So if the K3 is promoted as a high end (Professional?) Camera, what specs do you think it includes that separates it from the K5?

or from the D3200?

rawr · 09-03-2012, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by bobell69

what specs do you think it includes that separates it from the K5?

Aside from extra megapixels, maybe

- more sophisticated AF
- dual SD card slots
- faster FPS
- bigger buffer
- more video control options

plus general body tweaks based on K-5 experience.

ogl · 09-03-2012, 08:56 AM

I think Pentax FF will be. But after D600 and A99 in several months later. Next year, I think. The rumor about March, 2013 could be the truth.

JohnBee · 09-03-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by bobell69

So if the K3 is promoted as a high end (Professional?) Camera, what specs do you think it includes that separates it from the K5?

I'm guessing:

Higher MP
Improved color sensitivity
Lower min. ISO
Weaker AA filter
Improve low level NR system
Improved AF
Focus peaking
Improved continuous shooting speed

IMO. the buffer will likely remain the same, though I'm thinking the K-3 will have added continuous shooting modes. ie. 8FPS, 5FPS, 3FPS. Which will help immensely to keep control of the buffer.

JohnBee · 09-03-2012, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by ogl

I think Pentax FF will be. But after D600 and A99 in several months later. Next year, I think. The rumor about March, 2013 could be the truth.

Wouldn't they need lenses?

Clavius · 09-03-2012, 10:00 AM - **1 Like**

I'm going to skip this one. It sounds like a K5 that produces bigger files.

LamyTax · 09-03-2012, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

Wouldn't they need lenses?

Yeah, so, would you:
A) release them months before you announce an FF body
B) work on them silently and release them with an FF body

JohnBee · 09-03-2012, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by LamyTax

Yeah, so, would you:
A) release them months before you announce an FF body
B) work on them silently and release them with an FF body

If it were me... (and I'm not Pentax), I would announce a new roadmap with the addition of the FF lenses. And the reason for that is where this would motivate customers to stay with Pentax rather than jump ship.

But that's just me.

**interested_observer** · 09-03-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

I'm guessing:

Higher MP - 24MP?
Improved color sensitivity
Lower min. ISO - ISO 50 ??
Weaker AA filter - or none ??
Improve low level NR system
Improved AF
Focus peaking - Improved over the K-01 / K30 ??
Improved continuous shooting speed
Articulating Rear Screen
Tethering Control
Built in Hyperfocal tool on rear screen
EXIF support for less than 10mm
Focus Ranging similar to Bracketing
Improved Astrotracking with GPS-01
Built-in Stitching Assist
Images per Batter Charge Info - with improved battery

IMO. the buffer will likely remain the same, though I'm thinking the K-3 will have added continuous shooting modes. ie. 8FPS, 5FPS, 3FPS. Which will help immensely to keep control of the buffer.

.... just extended your post with some additional embedded comments....

ElJamoquio · 09-03-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

Wouldn't they need lenses?

They have 10 already.

They're missing a standard zoom and a wide angle zoom. Another telephoto zoom would be nice, too.

All three could be on the roadmap already.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/183420-current...me-lenses.html

JohnBee · 09-03-2012, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

They have 10 already.

Am I correct in assuming many of those are no longer in production?
Additionally... I think a few of those were not intended for digital.
IMO. Pentax would likely need to deliver qualifying FF lenses similar to what they are doing with 645D.

ElJamoquio · 09-03-2012, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

Am I correct in assuming many of those are no longer in production?

No - ten currently described as full frame. Another 4 that are actually full frame and just not given FA/DFA designation.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/183420-current...me-lenses.html

Originally posted by JohnBee

Additionally... I think a few of those were not intended for digital.

Yes. Incidentally they seem to be among the most expensive and sought-after Pentax primes... FA 31, FA 43, FA 77...

The 77 has more PF than I care for. The 31 is verrrrrrrrrrrrry nice.

09-03-2012, 09:49 AM	#52
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667 Original Poster	Originally posted by bobell69 So if the K3 is promoted as a high end (Professional?) Camera, what specs do you think it includes that separates it from the K5? I'm guessing: Higher MP Improved color sensitivity Lower min. ISO Weaker AA filter Improve low level NR system Improved AF Focus peaking Improved continuous shooting speed IMO. the buffer will likely remain the same, though I'm thinking the K-3 will have added continuous shooting modes. ie. 8FPS, 5FPS, 3FPS. Which will help immensely to keep control of the buffer.

09-03-2012, 10:07 AM	#57
interested_observer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tumbleweed, Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,707	Originally posted by JohnBee I'm guessing: Higher MP - 24MP? Improved color sensitivity Lower min. ISO - ISO 50 ?? Weaker AA filter - or none ?? Improve low level NR system Improved AF Focus peaking - Improved over the K-01 / K30 ?? Improved continuous shooting speed Articulating Rear Screen Tethering Control Built in Hyperfocal tool on rear screen EXIF support for less than 10mm Focus Ranging similar to Bracketing Improved Astrotracking with GPS-01 Built-in Stitching Assist Images per Batter Charge Info - with improved battery IMO. the buffer will likely remain the same, though I'm thinking the K-3 will have added continuous shooting modes. ie. 8FPS, 5FPS, 3FPS. Which will help immensely to keep control of the buffer. .... just extended your post with some additional embedded comments....

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09-03-2012, 08:35 AM	#46
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by LamyTax Which uses the leaked D600 photo made on a wooden table as a product photo? Are Nikon's product photography standards this low? Nikon could transmit to their distributors the order information without having transmitted the marketing packet, happens a lot when something is just released. Adorama will often have the specs on a device but no picture in the initial stages of that device having been offered for sale.

09-03-2012, 08:36 AM	#47
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	If the K-3 is the Sony 24MP APS-C sensor, the timing of it is interesting and seems to confirm how the industry works, with Sony going first with its sensor, then letting Nikon go about 6 months later, then Pentax: NEX-7/ A77/ A65 - end August 2011 D3200 - April 2012 K-3 - September 2012 If anything happens on FF, it will probably go on a similar schedule.

09-03-2012, 08:47 AM	#48
bobell69 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Courtenay BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 498	So if the K3 is promoted as a high end (Professional?) Camera, what specs do you think it includes that separates it from the K5?

09-03-2012, 08:52 AM	#49
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by bobell69 So if the K3 is promoted as a high end (Professional?) Camera, what specs do you think it includes that separates it from the K5? or from the D3200?

09-03-2012, 08:54 AM	#50
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by bobell69 what specs do you think it includes that separates it from the K5? Aside from extra megapixels, maybe - more sophisticated AF - dual SD card slots - faster FPS - bigger buffer - more video control options plus general body tweaks based on K-5 experience.

09-03-2012, 08:56 AM	#51
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	I think Pentax FF will be. But after D600 and A99 in several months later. Next year, I think. The rumor about March, 2013 could be the truth.

09-03-2012, 09:51 AM	#53
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667 Original Poster	Originally posted by ogl I think Pentax FF will be. But after D600 and A99 in several months later. Next year, I think. The rumor about March, 2013 could be the truth. Wouldn't they need lenses?

09-03-2012, 10:00 AM - 1 Like	#54
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	I'm going to skip this one. It sounds like a K5 that produces bigger files.

09-03-2012, 10:02 AM	#55
LamyTax Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 376	Originally posted by JohnBee Wouldn't they need lenses? Yeah, so, would you: A) release them months before you announce an FF body B) work on them silently and release them with an FF body

09-03-2012, 10:04 AM	#56
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667 Original Poster	Originally posted by LamyTax Yeah, so, would you: A) release them months before you announce an FF body B) work on them silently and release them with an FF body If it were me... (and I'm not Pentax), I would announce a new roadmap with the addition of the FF lenses. And the reason for that is where this would motivate customers to stay with Pentax rather than jump ship. But that's just me.

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09-03-2012, 10:07 AM	#58
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by JohnBee Wouldn't they need lenses? They have 10 already. They're missing a standard zoom and a wide angle zoom. Another telephoto zoom would be nice, too. All three could be on the roadmap already. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/183420-current...me-lenses.html

09-03-2012, 10:17 AM	#59
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667 Original Poster	Originally posted by ElJamoquio They have 10 already. Am I correct in assuming many of those are no longer in production? Additionally... I think a few of those were not intended for digital. IMO. Pentax would likely need to deliver qualifying FF lenses similar to what they are doing with 645D.

09-03-2012, 10:26 AM	#60
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by JohnBee Am I correct in assuming many of those are no longer in production? No - ten currently described as full frame. Another 4 that are actually full frame and just not given FA/DFA designation. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/183420-current...me-lenses.html Originally posted by JohnBee Additionally... I think a few of those were not intended for digital. Yes. Incidentally they seem to be among the most expensive and sought-after Pentax primes... FA 31, FA 43, FA 77... The 77 has more PF than I care for. The 31 is verrrrrrrrrrrrry nice.