The 9 Things that Pentax is to be Announced (Updated!)

wed7 · 09-06-2012, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by Winder

Rumor: Sigma to release fast prime lenses | Photo Rumors

The rumor keeps surfacing. Sigma plans on filling out it "professional" line of prime lenses with a 24mm F/1.4, 35mm f/1.4, and 135mm f/2.0. All full frame glass.

Probably they're scared of Samyangs

**jeffshaddix** · 09-06-2012, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by wed7

Probably they're scared of Samyangs

As well they should be. Those lenses are (mostly) great bargains.

I just hope Samyang doesn't drop K mount like Zeiss and Voigtlander.

DSims · 09-07-2012, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by Winder

I just want a D-FA* 135mm F/1.8.

So would I. The Sony Zeiss version is one of the nicest lenses I've ever tried. I wouldn't expect a Sigma 135/2 to be anywhere close to it - in fact, probably only slightly better than the FA135/2.8, and noticeably inferior to the Canon 135/2.

DSims · 09-07-2012, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by Sandy Hancock

Sure, but the other DA* zooms are all constant aperture, so I would be very surprised if they do that.

I agree - a variable aperture * lens would be hard to stomach. Rarely have I been pleased with a variable aperture lens either. Some f/3.5-4.5 lenses come close - for example, it's acceptable in the DA10-17. And I like my FA28-105/3.2-4.5 for other reasons, but I'm still not crazy about the aperture.

Originally posted by Deimos

I also cant see Pentax ever releasing a $4k body camera (that isnt MF).

This sounds like a misunderstanding. The $4000+ I mentioned was the total cost for the body and a couple of high quality lenses, not the body alone (although in retrospect, I probably should have said $3000+, since Nikon (and even Canon and Sony) may be bringing the cost of FF down, starting this month).

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'm having trouble imagining many of us currently have everything we need in FF. For example, I'm invested in the DA15, DA*16-50, and DA*50-135. I realized I had to if I wanted to get higher quality now. So for a couple of years now I've been able to use a very good lens plus 2 truly exceptional ones. When a FF comes out I'll be missing my 2 fast zooms - others may find they're missing something else. After we shell out for the camera, most of us will realize we suddenly need at least one new lens. And we'll get it, reasoning that without it our substantial camera investment will go underutilized. Besides, even if we were covered, Pentax will show us one or two new lenses that are simply better than the old alternatives, and we'll (understandably) want to get one.

Last edited by DSims; 09-07-2012 at 02:11 AM.

the swede · 09-07-2012, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by DSims

So would I. The Sony Zeiss version is one of the nicest lenses I've ever tried.

Amen... thats a darn good lens. If i was rich i'd buy Sony FF just for that lens...

DSims · 09-07-2012, 03:05 AM

Originally posted by the swede

Amen... thats a darn good lens. If i was rich i'd buy Sony FF just for that lens...

Exactly - It would be worth getting a Sony body just to use it. But I would have given up too much of my Pentax kit to do it. Sony has a few other lenses that are nearly as impressive as well. Alas, like Canon and Nikon, each costs around $2000.

gtl · 09-07-2012, 03:19 AM

If the K3 has a 100% 1x magnification viewfinder, does it mean that it is much bigger than the K5's and close to the D800? I am very poor at understanding viewfinder sizes unfortunately...

I find MF on the K5 to be quite a pain, though I am pretty sure swapping out for an EE-S screen would make things much better.

cateto · 09-07-2012, 03:43 AM

For god's sake: precisely in Pentaxforums, when, oh, when will people stop posting fabricated stuff from RiceHigh? Does he have any remaining credibility at all?? :roll:

northcoastgreg · 09-07-2012, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by DSims

I agree - a variable aperture * lens would be hard to stomach. Rarely have I been pleased with a variable aperture lens either.

There's no reason why a variable aperture zoom can't be just as good as a fixed aperture zoom. If the proposed DA* 16-85 is sharp corner to corner throughout it's zoom range at f8 and has similar color rendition to the other DA* zooms, I'll give it a serious look, regardless of fixed or variable aperture. I've owned some fairly capable constant aperture zoom lenses, such as the DA 12-24/4; but the best zoom lens I've ever used is the FA 24-90/3.5-4.5.

**cheekygeek** · 09-07-2012, 09:16 AM

IF the "9 announcements" thing is correct, the thing we DON'T know is if some of these products will be announced together (counting as just 1 announcement).
For example: It appears that "for real" right now are:

New Q
Q 15-45mm f2.8 zoom
(anticipating the Genuine Q K-mount adapter and HOPING for an 07 wide prime for the Q)
All of the above could be in one Q-related announcement.

560mm
18-270mm (rebadged Tamron? yawn)
90mm macro for the 645 (could also be announced together with the expected 645Dii

If combined, that leaves 5 more announcements.
If not combined...

Parallax · 09-07-2012, 10:22 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by cateto

Does he have any remaining credibility at all??

Remaining credibility? Are you suggesting that he ever had any?

JohnBee · 09-07-2012, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

Remaining credibility? Are you suggesting that he ever had any?

I concur...

ogl · 09-07-2012, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by DSims

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'm having trouble imagining many of us currently have everything we need in FF. For example, I'm invested in the DA15, DA*16-50, and DA*50-135. I realized I had to if I wanted to get higher quality now. So for a couple of years now I've been able to use a very good lens plus 2 truly exceptional ones. When a FF comes out I'll be missing my 2 fast zooms - others may find they're missing something else.

The aperture of your zoom won't be changed. You can use your DA* in APS-C mode.

eddie1960 · 09-07-2012, 11:58 AM

well 3 of the 9 from Photo Rumors site - 18-270 price is insane if it's right should be under $500

Pentax 15-45mm f/2.8 (for Pentax Q) priced at ¥25,000 (around $300)
Pentax HD FA645 MACRO 90mm f/2.8ED AW SR (for Pentax 645 medium frame camera) priced at ¥400,000 (around $5,000)
Pentax DA 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 ED SDM (for K mount DSLR cameras) priced at ¥70,000 (around $880)

Read more on PhotoRumors.com: Pentax Q 15-45mm f/2.8, FA645 MACRO 90mm f/2.8 and DA18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 SDM lenses leaked | Photo Rumors

glanglois · 09-07-2012, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

well 3 of the 9 from Photo Rumors site - 18-270 price is insane if it's right should be under $500

Pentax 15-45mm f/2.8 (for Pentax Q) priced at ¥25,000 (around $300)
Pentax HD FA645 MACRO 90mm f/2.8ED AW SR (for Pentax 645 medium frame camera) priced at ¥400,000 (around $5,000)
Pentax DA 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 ED SDM (for K mount DSLR cameras) priced at ¥70,000 (around $880)

Read more on PhotoRumors.com: Pentax Q 15-45mm f/2.8, FA645 MACRO 90mm f/2.8 and DA18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 SDM lenses leaked | Photo Rumors

WRT an 18-270 at $500: should be $400+ to allow for third party three-year warranty if it's using the Pentax bog-standard SDM.

09-07-2012, 03:43 AM	#113
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09-06-2012, 09:34 PM	#106
wed7 Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,421	Originally posted by Winder Rumor: Sigma to release fast prime lenses \| Photo Rumors The rumor keeps surfacing. Sigma plans on filling out it "professional" line of prime lenses with a 24mm F/1.4, 35mm f/1.4, and 135mm f/2.0. All full frame glass. Probably they're scared of Samyangs

09-06-2012, 09:41 PM	#107
jeffshaddix Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,473	Originally posted by wed7 Probably they're scared of Samyangs As well they should be. Those lenses are (mostly) great bargains. I just hope Samyang doesn't drop K mount like Zeiss and Voigtlander.

09-07-2012, 01:15 AM	#108
DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by Winder I just want a D-FA* 135mm F/1.8. So would I. The Sony Zeiss version is one of the nicest lenses I've ever tried. I wouldn't expect a Sigma 135/2 to be anywhere close to it - in fact, probably only slightly better than the FA135/2.8, and noticeably inferior to the Canon 135/2.

09-07-2012, 01:25 AM	#109
DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by Sandy Hancock Sure, but the other DA* zooms are all constant aperture, so I would be very surprised if they do that. I agree - a variable aperture * lens would be hard to stomach. Rarely have I been pleased with a variable aperture lens either. Some f/3.5-4.5 lenses come close - for example, it's acceptable in the DA10-17. And I like my FA28-105/3.2-4.5 for other reasons, but I'm still not crazy about the aperture. Originally posted by Deimos I also cant see Pentax ever releasing a $4k body camera (that isnt MF). This sounds like a misunderstanding. The $4000+ I mentioned was the total cost for the body and a couple of high quality lenses, not the body alone (although in retrospect, I probably should have said $3000+, since Nikon (and even Canon and Sony) may be bringing the cost of FF down, starting this month). Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'm having trouble imagining many of us currently have everything we need in FF. For example, I'm invested in the DA15, DA16-50, and DA50-135. I realized I had to if I wanted to get higher quality now. So for a couple of years now I've been able to use a very good lens plus 2 truly exceptional ones. When a FF comes out I'll be missing my 2 fast zooms - others may find they're missing something else. After we shell out for the camera, most of us will realize we suddenly need at least one new lens. And we'll get it, reasoning that without it our substantial camera investment will go underutilized. Besides, even if we were covered, Pentax will show us one or two new lenses that are simply better than the old alternatives, and we'll (understandably) want to get one. Last edited by DSims; 09-07-2012 at 02:11 AM.

09-07-2012, 02:15 AM	#110
the swede Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,310	Originally posted by DSims So would I. The Sony Zeiss version is one of the nicest lenses I've ever tried. Amen... thats a darn good lens. If i was rich i'd buy Sony FF just for that lens...

09-07-2012, 03:05 AM	#111
DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by the swede Amen... thats a darn good lens. If i was rich i'd buy Sony FF just for that lens... Exactly - It would be worth getting a Sony body just to use it. But I would have given up too much of my Pentax kit to do it. Sony has a few other lenses that are nearly as impressive as well. Alas, like Canon and Nikon, each costs around $2000.

09-07-2012, 03:19 AM	#112
gtl Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 349	If the K3 has a 100% 1x magnification viewfinder, does it mean that it is much bigger than the K5's and close to the D800? I am very poor at understanding viewfinder sizes unfortunately... I find MF on the K5 to be quite a pain, though I am pretty sure swapping out for an EE-S screen would make things much better.

09-07-2012, 08:22 AM	#114
northcoastgreg Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Northern Michigan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,173	Originally posted by DSims I agree - a variable aperture * lens would be hard to stomach. Rarely have I been pleased with a variable aperture lens either. There's no reason why a variable aperture zoom can't be just as good as a fixed aperture zoom. If the proposed DA* 16-85 is sharp corner to corner throughout it's zoom range at f8 and has similar color rendition to the other DA* zooms, I'll give it a serious look, regardless of fixed or variable aperture. I've owned some fairly capable constant aperture zoom lenses, such as the DA 12-24/4; but the best zoom lens I've ever used is the FA 24-90/3.5-4.5.

09-07-2012, 09:16 AM	#115
cheekygeek Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Kearney, Nebraska USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,261	IF the "9 announcements" thing is correct, the thing we DON'T know is if some of these products will be announced together (counting as just 1 announcement). For example: It appears that "for real" right now are: New Q Q 15-45mm f2.8 zoom (anticipating the Genuine Q K-mount adapter and HOPING for an 07 wide prime for the Q) All of the above could be in one Q-related announcement. 560mm 18-270mm (rebadged Tamron? yawn) 90mm macro for the 645 (could also be announced together with the expected 645Dii If combined, that leaves 5 more announcements. If not combined...

09-07-2012, 10:22 AM - 1 Like	#116
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	Originally posted by cateto Does he have any remaining credibility at all?? Remaining credibility? Are you suggesting that he ever had any?

09-07-2012, 11:38 AM	#117
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by Parallax Remaining credibility? Are you suggesting that he ever had any? I concur...

09-07-2012, 11:42 AM	#118
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by DSims Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'm having trouble imagining many of us currently have everything we need in FF. For example, I'm invested in the DA15, DA16-50, and DA50-135. I realized I had to if I wanted to get higher quality now. So for a couple of years now I've been able to use a very good lens plus 2 truly exceptional ones. When a FF comes out I'll be missing my 2 fast zooms - others may find they're missing something else. The aperture of your zoom won't be changed. You can use your DA* in APS-C mode.

09-07-2012, 11:58 AM	#119
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	well 3 of the 9 from Photo Rumors site - 18-270 price is insane if it's right should be under $500 Pentax 15-45mm f/2.8 (for Pentax Q) priced at ¥25,000 (around $300) Pentax HD FA645 MACRO 90mm f/2.8ED AW SR (for Pentax 645 medium frame camera) priced at ¥400,000 (around $5,000) Pentax DA 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 ED SDM (for K mount DSLR cameras) priced at ¥70,000 (around $880) Read more on PhotoRumors.com: Pentax Q 15-45mm f/2.8, FA645 MACRO 90mm f/2.8 and DA18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 SDM lenses leaked \| Photo Rumors

09-07-2012, 01:01 PM	#120
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	Originally posted by eddie1960 well 3 of the 9 from Photo Rumors site - 18-270 price is insane if it's right should be under $500 Pentax 15-45mm f/2.8 (for Pentax Q) priced at ¥25,000 (around $300) Pentax HD FA645 MACRO 90mm f/2.8ED AW SR (for Pentax 645 medium frame camera) priced at ¥400,000 (around $5,000) Pentax DA 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 ED SDM (for K mount DSLR cameras) priced at ¥70,000 (around $880) Read more on PhotoRumors.com: Pentax Q 15-45mm f/2.8, FA645 MACRO 90mm f/2.8 and DA18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 SDM lenses leaked \| Photo Rumors WRT an 18-270 at $500: should be $400+ to allow for third party three-year warranty if it's using the Pentax bog-standard SDM.