The 9 Things that Pentax is to be Announced (Updated!)

DSims · 09-07-2012, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by northcoastgreg

There's no reason why a variable aperture zoom can't be just as good as a fixed aperture zoom.

In theory, perhaps this is true. But in my world, the theory works like this:

"I want to get the best value, and not spend any more than I have to. So I'll get the variable aperture."

Then I get it, and I find it doesn't perform as well as a fixed-aperture lens. So I say to myself "Dang - I really do have to spend more money for better quality!"

I could tell myself it's just as good, but it really isn't. So then I have to decide whether it's worth making that compromise in order to save the money.

**monochrome** · 09-07-2012, 01:13 PM

WRT lens prices in general and all the pricing discussion referenced here -- c'mon, give P-USA a break. They have to pay for all these retailer workshops and PopPhoto articles somehow, don't they? I mean, really, we've done nothing but complain for years that we get no marketing, no B&M support, no repairs, no Cust. Svc and now, there you go, we have fiver or six in-house shows and a magazine cover!!

/sarc (in case you needed it.)

eurostar · 09-09-2012, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by ogl

The aperture of your zoom won't be changed. You can use your DA* in APS-C mode.

I don't get why someone should spend 2500 for a body to use it in crop mode getting lower QI than a one-third-the-price APS-C camera.

**Lowell Goudge** · 09-09-2012, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by frankfanrui

1. K-300
16MP old CMOS sensor used in K-01 and K-30, re-using the K-r body, i.e., penta-mirror at 0.85X and 96% coverage.
RH's Certainty Percentage Close to 100%!

2. K-5N
16MP new CMOS sensor technology, new image processor, APS-C of course, 100% penta-prism finder at 0.92X, articulated screen, new 21-point SAFOX X AF system (central 9-crossed, surrounding 12 points linear), improved continuous tracking and zone focusing, 8 fps, improved video functions (with manual control and continuous AF option during video recording, very possibly).
RH's Certainty Percentage Close to 100%!

3. K-3/K-3S*
*Name Tentative
24MP APS-C flagship, Sony IMX096 CMOS sensor, new image processor, newly designed 100% coverage 1X magnification penta-prism (equivalent to 0.65X at 50mm for 135), articulated screen, 21-point SAFOX X AF system, 6 fps, enhanced white balance detection, enhanced video functions, stereo microphone built-in. Version without AA filter to be marketed later in early 2013, targeted/suggested price set at 1,400 Euros. The K-3 Super will be the highest resolution APS-C camera body ever on Earth and would put almost all the existing Pentax lenses to death! ;-p
RH's Certainty Percentage Close to 100%!

4. 645DII*/645DN*
*Name Tentative
New top-of-the-line Trusense (formally Kodak) KAF-50100 51.6MP CCD sensor in 49.1 x 36.8mm (active pixels 50.1M), 645 film equivalent crop factor 1.1X (old 645D sensor was in 1.3X), improved image processing, SAFOX X, increased 60,000 shutter actuations/life (rated), other minor improvements, no video function, of course! :->
RH's Certainty Percentage Close to 100%!

5. DA 18-200/3.5-5.6 WR DC
Product is self-explanatory for its name, kit lens option with the K-3.
RH's Certainty Percentage 90%+

6. DA560/5.6
3 sections dividable, simplified weather resistant, new-type in-lens motor with quick-shift manual focus overriding capability, built-in astro-tracking, set price at US$3,800, manufactured only upon special ordering.
RH's Certainty Percentage 90%+

7. DFA645 90/2.8
Its name is self-explanatory, for portraiture.
RH's Certainty Percentage 90%+

8. O-GPS2
Updated/improved version of the O-GPS1
RH's Certainty Percentage 75%

9. AF1?0FGZ and AF600FGZ
New external compact flashgun and new flagship flashgun, finally!
RH's Certainty Percentage 75%

original address for above info

You know, you lost all credibility by quoting RH

Last edited by Blue; 09-10-2012 at 09:56 AM. Reason: removed link within quote, 1 place is enough for it

TaoMaas · 09-09-2012, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

You know, you lost all credibility by quoting RH

Agreed...there's a reason why he doesn't post here anymore.

ogl · 09-10-2012, 04:33 AM

1. K-5II
2. K-5IIs
3. 560/5.6
4. 18-270
5. 90 macro MF
6. Pentax Q
7. tele Q.
8. flash???
9. ????

It seems to me - no any K-3 or 645DII....

JohnLegrand · 09-10-2012, 04:37 AM

K3 is more likely then K5 mark II

THats a serious HOAX imo

Wich serious source do we have about this "mark II" rreally?

ogl · 09-10-2012, 04:39 AM

The line of cameras without K-3 (even APS-C) looks rather weak - K-30 and K-5II(s). Two DSLR cameras...

janneman · 09-10-2012, 05:11 AM

Originally posted by JohnLegrand

K3 is more likely then K5 mark II

THats a serious HOAX imo

Wich serious source do we have about this "mark II" rreally?

Not sure it is a hoax but K-5II, K-5IIs and K-3 (and even talk about a K-3s) is highly strange.
If K-5II comes together with a K-3 I think it is less strange if there will be only one K-5II and that one will be without the low pass filter. No K-5II with it.

Mistral75 · 09-10-2012, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by JohnLegrand

K3 is more likely then K5 mark II

THats a serious HOAX imo

Wich serious source do we have about this "mark II" rreally?

Pentax Spain (Facebook page).

dankoBanana · 09-10-2012, 05:38 AM

pentax croatia announced that all will be known tomorrow

Clavius · 09-10-2012, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by dankoBanana

pentax croatia announced that all will be known tomorrow

Did they also say if they would be allowed to disclose it too?

jiimaa · 09-10-2012, 05:57 AM

All this speculation makes my head explode. I have one. I have a strong gut feeling, that Pentax will announce something majestic. A 560mm f/1. It's not a DA*, it's DP* for Diesel Powered. It has a built-in K-0.002 body which is half the size of a truck. Note that it is also a truck. Basically, a pickup truck with giant camera body instead of cabin. Inside it looks like a space shuttle. Every feature the body has, has a dedicated button in the cabin. And it has six wheels. With a giant lens where the front of the truck normally is. So that's one thing. The 7 other things are that 7-speed automatic, and the last is reverse. The engine is also used to operate the focus. It's really quick AF at the 5000-6000rpm range. On the downside, it's still crop sensor.

Clavius · 09-10-2012, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by jiimaa

All this speculation makes my head explode. I have one. I have a strong gut feeling, that Pentax will announce something majestic. A 560mm f/1. It's not a DA*, it's DP* for Diesel Powered. It has a built-in K-0.002 body which is half the size of a truck. Note that it is also a truck. Basically, a pickup truck with giant camera body instead of cabin. Inside it looks like a space shuttle. Every feature the body has, has a dedicated button in the cabin. And it has six wheels. With a giant lens where the front of the truck normally is. So that's one thing. The 7 other things are that 7-speed automatic, and the last is reverse. The engine is also used to operate the focus. It's really quick AF at the 5000-6000rpm range. On the downside, it's still crop sensor.

LOL!

Originally posted by jiimaa

The 7 other things are that 7-speed automatic, and the last is reverse.

Aw crap, an automatic? Will there be a version for men too?

jiimaa · 09-10-2012, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

Aw crap, an automatic? Will there be a version for men too?

No but for real men it has an 'M' setting, with which you can manually push around the 9 ton truck, and operate the focus with hand crank.

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09-07-2012, 01:12 PM	#121
DSims Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,236	Originally posted by northcoastgreg There's no reason why a variable aperture zoom can't be just as good as a fixed aperture zoom. In theory, perhaps this is true. But in my world, the theory works like this: "I want to get the best value, and not spend any more than I have to. So I'll get the variable aperture." Then I get it, and I find it doesn't perform as well as a fixed-aperture lens. So I say to myself "Dang - I really do have to spend more money for better quality!" I could tell myself it's just as good, but it really isn't. So then I have to decide whether it's worth making that compromise in order to save the money.

09-07-2012, 01:13 PM	#122
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	WRT lens prices in general and all the pricing discussion referenced here -- c'mon, give P-USA a break. They have to pay for all these retailer workshops and PopPhoto articles somehow, don't they? I mean, really, we've done nothing but complain for years that we get no marketing, no B&M support, no repairs, no Cust. Svc and now, there you go, we have fiver or six in-house shows and a magazine cover!! /sarc (in case you needed it.)

09-09-2012, 04:50 AM	#123
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	Originally posted by ogl The aperture of your zoom won't be changed. You can use your DA* in APS-C mode. I don't get why someone should spend 2500 for a body to use it in crop mode getting lower QI than a one-third-the-price APS-C camera.

09-09-2012, 05:22 AM	#124
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,886	Originally posted by frankfanrui 1. K-300 16MP old CMOS sensor used in K-01 and K-30, re-using the K-r body, i.e., penta-mirror at 0.85X and 96% coverage. RH's Certainty Percentage Close to 100%! 2. K-5N 16MP new CMOS sensor technology, new image processor, APS-C of course, 100% penta-prism finder at 0.92X, articulated screen, new 21-point SAFOX X AF system (central 9-crossed, surrounding 12 points linear), improved continuous tracking and zone focusing, 8 fps, improved video functions (with manual control and continuous AF option during video recording, very possibly). RH's Certainty Percentage Close to 100%! 3. K-3/K-3S* Name Tentative 24MP APS-C flagship, Sony IMX096 CMOS sensor, new image processor, newly designed 100% coverage 1X magnification penta-prism (equivalent to 0.65X at 50mm for 135), articulated screen, 21-point SAFOX X AF system, 6 fps, enhanced white balance detection, enhanced video functions, stereo microphone built-in. Version without AA filter to be marketed later in early 2013, targeted/suggested price set at 1,400 Euros. The K-3 Super will be the highest resolution APS-C camera body ever on Earth and would put almost all the existing Pentax lenses to death! ;-p RH's Certainty Percentage Close to 100%! 4. 645DII/645DN* Name Tentative New top-of-the-line Trusense (formally Kodak) KAF-50100 51.6MP CCD sensor in 49.1 x 36.8mm (active pixels 50.1M), 645 film equivalent crop factor 1.1X (old 645D sensor was in 1.3X), improved image processing, SAFOX X, increased 60,000 shutter actuations/life (rated), other minor improvements, no video function, of course! :-> RH's Certainty Percentage Close to 100%! 5. DA 18-200/3.5-5.6 WR DC Product is self-explanatory for its name, kit lens option with the K-3. RH's Certainty Percentage 90%+ 6. DA560/5.6 3 sections dividable, simplified weather resistant, new-type in-lens motor with quick-shift manual focus overriding capability, built-in astro-tracking, set price at US$3,800, manufactured only upon special ordering. RH's Certainty Percentage 90%+ 7. DFA645 90/2.8 Its name is self-explanatory, for portraiture. RH's Certainty Percentage 90%+ 8. O-GPS2 Updated/improved version of the O-GPS1 RH's Certainty Percentage 75% 9. AF1?0FGZ and AF600FGZ New external compact flashgun and new flagship flashgun, finally! RH's Certainty Percentage 75% original address for above info You know, you lost all credibility by quoting RH Last edited by Blue; 09-10-2012 at 09:56 AM. Reason: removed link within quote, 1 place is enough for it*

09-09-2012, 05:35 AM	#125
TaoMaas Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,574	Originally posted by Lowell Goudge You know, you lost all credibility by quoting RH Agreed...there's a reason why he doesn't post here anymore.

09-10-2012, 04:33 AM	#126
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	1. K-5II 2. K-5IIs 3. 560/5.6 4. 18-270 5. 90 macro MF 6. Pentax Q 7. tele Q. 8. flash??? 9. ???? It seems to me - no any K-3 or 645DII....

09-10-2012, 04:37 AM	#127
JohnLegrand Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 29	K3 is more likely then K5 mark II THats a serious HOAX imo Wich serious source do we have about this "mark II" rreally?

09-10-2012, 04:39 AM	#128
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	The line of cameras without K-3 (even APS-C) looks rather weak - K-30 and K-5II(s). Two DSLR cameras...

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janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by JohnLegrand K3 is more likely then K5 mark II THats a serious HOAX imo Wich serious source do we have about this "mark II" rreally? Not sure it is a hoax but K-5II, K-5IIs and K-3 (and even talk about a K-3s) is highly strange. If K-5II comes together with a K-3 I think it is less strange if there will be only one K-5II and that one will be without the low pass filter. No K-5II with it.

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Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by JohnLegrand K3 is more likely then K5 mark II THats a serious HOAX imo Wich serious source do we have about this "mark II" rreally? Pentax Spain (Facebook page).

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09-10-2012, 05:38 AM	#131
dankoBanana Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 533	pentax croatia announced that all will be known tomorrow

09-10-2012, 05:55 AM	#132
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by dankoBanana pentax croatia announced that all will be known tomorrow Did they also say if they would be allowed to disclose it too?

09-10-2012, 05:57 AM	#133
jiimaa Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 84	All this speculation makes my head explode. I have one. I have a strong gut feeling, that Pentax will announce something majestic. A 560mm f/1. It's not a DA, it's DP for Diesel Powered. It has a built-in K-0.002 body which is half the size of a truck. Note that it is also a truck. Basically, a pickup truck with giant camera body instead of cabin. Inside it looks like a space shuttle. Every feature the body has, has a dedicated button in the cabin. And it has six wheels. With a giant lens where the front of the truck normally is. So that's one thing. The 7 other things are that 7-speed automatic, and the last is reverse. The engine is also used to operate the focus. It's really quick AF at the 5000-6000rpm range. On the downside, it's still crop sensor.

09-10-2012, 06:03 AM	#134
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by jiimaa All this speculation makes my head explode. I have one. I have a strong gut feeling, that Pentax will announce something majestic. A 560mm f/1. It's not a DA, it's DP for Diesel Powered. It has a built-in K-0.002 body which is half the size of a truck. Note that it is also a truck. Basically, a pickup truck with giant camera body instead of cabin. Inside it looks like a space shuttle. Every feature the body has, has a dedicated button in the cabin. And it has six wheels. With a giant lens where the front of the truck normally is. So that's one thing. The 7 other things are that 7-speed automatic, and the last is reverse. The engine is also used to operate the focus. It's really quick AF at the 5000-6000rpm range. On the downside, it's still crop sensor. LOL! Originally posted by jiimaa The 7 other things are that 7-speed automatic, and the last is reverse. Aw crap, an automatic? Will there be a version for men too?

09-10-2012, 06:20 AM	#135
jiimaa Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 84	Originally posted by Clavius Aw crap, an automatic? Will there be a version for men too? No but for real men it has an 'M' setting, with which you can manually push around the 9 ton truck, and operate the focus with hand crank.