Samyang to show 24mm F3.5 tilt-and-shift lens at Photokina

Mistral75 · 02-19-2013, 04:48 AM - **1 Like**

Don't be:

"Available mounts Canon, Nikon, KM/Sony, Pentax"

Samyang T-S 24mm 1:3.5 ED AS UMC

If someone is abandoning Pentax, it's not Samyang.

Ishpuini · 02-19-2013, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by infoomatic

damnt, seems no pentax mount so far ... Samyang T-S 24mm f/3.5 ED AS UMC tilt-shift lens US pricing revealed | Photo Rumors

That would be a shame. I was looking forward to this lens. On the other hand, it's still listed as a possible mount on the Samyang site as Mistral75 correctly states. It's not March yet...

Wim

panoguy · 02-19-2013, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by zosxavius

Originally posted by infoomatic

damnt, seems no pentax mount so far ... Samyang T-S 24mm f/3.5 ED AS UMC tilt-shift lens US pricing revealed | Photo Rumors

Not a good sign. I will be rather sad if samyang abandons us.

Samyang isn't abandoning Pentax. There's no full-frame Pentax DSLR (even announced or previewed), so really, there's little market (or reason) for this specialized Samyang in K-mount at this time. They might even be making in K-mount for all we really know. [Edit: see link above]

So why not tilt-shift for APS-C? Well, the main uses for a T-S lens are professional landscape, product and architectural photography, and we have to admit that precious few pros in those areas have Pentax APS-C bodies (maybe 645D). Next, for the lens to work on full-frame sensors, it would have to be designed with a larger-than-normal, but sharp to the edges, image circle to allow for the movements. That verges on overkill for APS-C (I can tilt or shift a gorgeous Takumar on an NEX for much less). I'm sure Samyang will eventually release it in K-mount like their other full-frame lenses, but given the MSRP and cost to manufacture this special lens, why bother right now?

Really, if any lens maker is (slowly) abandoning Pentax, it's Sigma. Where's the long-delayed 120-300/2.8 K-mount? When will the new and lustworthy 35/1.4 be available in K-mount?

Adam · 02-20-2013, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by panoguy

Really, if any lens maker is (slowly) abandoning Pentax, it's Sigma. Where's the long-delayed 120-300/2.8 K-mount? When will the new and lustworthy 35/1.4 be available in K-mount?

Being a pro sports lens, I'm not surprised that Sigma isn't going to offer the 120-300mm for Pentax. At CP+ they said that the 35mm F1.4 would eventually be released, but being a full-frame lens, it obviously won't be enjoyed as much on a Pentax as it can on canon/nikon/sony FF's. Maybe Sigma is going to hold off until Pentax does release their full frame?

Also, regarding the tilt-shift lens, it was just listed at B&H for everyone except for Pentax

Adam
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cali92rs · 02-20-2013, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Being a pro sports lens, I'm not surprised that Sigma isn't going to offer the 120-300mm for Pentax. At CP+ they said that the 35mm F1.4 would eventually be released, but being a full-frame lens, it obviously won't be enjoyed as much on a Pentax as it can on canon/nikon/sony FF's. Maybe Sigma is going to hold off until Pentax does release their full frame?

Also, regarding the tilt-shift lens, it was just listed at B&H for everyone except for Pentax

The handwriting is on the wall....Pentax needs to make a splash soon or their 3rd party support is going to shrivel up and die.

Medium FormatPro · 02-21-2013, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by cali92rs

The handwriting is on the wall....Pentax needs to make a splash soon or their 3rd party support is going to shrivel up and die.

I wouldn't mind somehow seeing the sales numbers of lens' between Pentax and Sigma - both for PK only. Something already "tells me" that Sigma is already outselling Pentax for PK.

Sigma isn't going to abandon PK anytime soon; although there is a rather limited supply of PK lens versus what they have for other camera mounts. Making ones voice (and word) be heard really adds up. Simply drop Sigma a tactful note on items such as Facebook, email, and even snail mail.

Chances are, that if Sigma gets a good portion of genuine letters from PK'ers about wanting a particular lens' then it just might motivate them to release it.

thibs · 02-21-2013, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by Medium FormatPro

Sigma isn't going to abandon PK anytime soon; although there is a rather limited supply of PK lens versus what they have for other camera mounts.

I don't think Sony's getting more love from Sigma either..

Big G · 02-24-2013, 07:22 AM

Except for cheap E mount wide angle primes that are rather damn good.

Sigma have done good things in that space.

captainbert · 03-01-2013, 08:09 PM

I emailed Samyang in the UK and they neither confirmed or denied that it would or wouldn't be released in Pentax mount at some stage, but he or she just said that they suspected Canon and Nikon in the first instance (no mention of Sony in the email). I am dying for a tilt shift lens (for more experimental purposes than anything). I seem a few people post about the Arax 35mm tilt shift or MC Arsat but I can't find a lot of info on them. Could anyone advise if they are any way good?

eurostar · 03-06-2013, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by captainbert

I emailed Samyang in the UK and they neither confirmed or denied that it would or wouldn't be released in Pentax mount at some stage, but he or she just said that they suspected Canon and Nikon in the first instance (no mention of Sony in the email). I am dying for a tilt shift lens (for more experimental purposes than anything). I seem a few people post about the Arax 35mm tilt shift or MC Arsat but I can't find a lot of info on them. Could anyone advise if they are any way good?

I had the Hartblei 120/2,8 T&S Superrotator, that I used for macro with diopters, and was exceptionally good. Sadly I sold it in when I was in a Pentax-purist phase.

Ishpuini · 07-09-2013, 12:19 AM

It took some time for me to decide, but I just preordered the Samyang 24 T/S (from the UK). It's not available yet, closest estimate being 3 to 6 weeks, but that's just a guess.

I'll report back here once I know more...

Wim

noVICE · 07-09-2013, 05:48 AM

Did I miss something? I thought that Samyang decided to not release this lens for K mount??
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/223015-new-sam...le-pentax.html

rawr · 07-09-2013, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by noVICE

I thought that Samyang decided to not release this lens for K mount?

The jury still seems out on that point.
Ultimately, when it is in Adorama or BandH, or on eBay, that will determine the question.

Tesfaye · 07-09-2013, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by panoguy

Really, if any lens maker is (slowly) abandoning Pentax, it's Sigma. Where's the long-delayed 120-300/2.8 K-mount? When will the new and lustworthy 35/1.4 be available in K-mount?

Both the two leading suppliers of camera gear in Norway list the Sigma 35/1.4 in Pentax mount. None of them have it available yet, but one of them suggests that they should get it in about a week's time. Furthermore, the 18-35 is supposed to be available in October. I suppose this is based on information from Sigma.
But of course, it certainly is frustrating when the lens you want can only be mounted on a camera you have no intention of buying.

Talisker · 07-09-2013, 01:08 PM

Well, the Samyang UK distributors page shows it being available and it can be ordered from WEX and Park Cameras among others. Ultimately, Adorama and B&H don't determine what is available in the UK.

Pity it's not really wide enough for APC-S though.

02-19-2013, 08:29 AM	#63
panoguy Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Washington, D.C. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,327	Originally posted by zosxavius Originally posted by infoomatic damnt, seems no pentax mount so far ... Samyang T-S 24mm f/3.5 ED AS UMC tilt-shift lens US pricing revealed \| Photo Rumors Not a good sign. I will be rather sad if samyang abandons us. Samyang isn't abandoning Pentax. There's no full-frame Pentax DSLR (even announced or previewed), so really, there's little market (or reason) for this specialized Samyang in K-mount at this time. They might even be making in K-mount for all we really know. [Edit: see link above] So why not tilt-shift for APS-C? Well, the main uses for a T-S lens are professional landscape, product and architectural photography, and we have to admit that precious few pros in those areas have Pentax APS-C bodies (maybe 645D). Next, for the lens to work on full-frame sensors, it would have to be designed with a larger-than-normal, but sharp to the edges, image circle to allow for the movements. That verges on overkill for APS-C (I can tilt or shift a gorgeous Takumar on an NEX for much less). I'm sure Samyang will eventually release it in K-mount like their other full-frame lenses, but given the MSRP and cost to manufacture this special lens, why bother right now? Really, if any lens maker is (slowly) abandoning Pentax, it's Sigma. Where's the long-delayed 120-300/2.8 K-mount? When will the new and lustworthy 35/1.4 be available in K-mount? Last edited by panoguy; 02-19-2013 at 08:36 AM.

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02-19-2013, 04:48 AM - 1 Like	#61
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Don't be: "Available mounts Canon, Nikon, KM/Sony, Pentax" Samyang T-S 24mm 1:3.5 ED AS UMC If someone is abandoning Pentax, it's not Samyang.

02-19-2013, 06:49 AM	#62
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727 Original Poster	Originally posted by infoomatic damnt, seems no pentax mount so far ... Samyang T-S 24mm f/3.5 ED AS UMC tilt-shift lens US pricing revealed \| Photo Rumors That would be a shame. I was looking forward to this lens. On the other hand, it's still listed as a possible mount on the Samyang site as Mistral75 correctly states. It's not March yet... Wim

02-20-2013, 12:45 PM	#64
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595	Originally posted by panoguy Really, if any lens maker is (slowly) abandoning Pentax, it's Sigma. Where's the long-delayed 120-300/2.8 K-mount? When will the new and lustworthy 35/1.4 be available in K-mount? Being a pro sports lens, I'm not surprised that Sigma isn't going to offer the 120-300mm for Pentax. At CP+ they said that the 35mm F1.4 would eventually be released, but being a full-frame lens, it obviously won't be enjoyed as much on a Pentax as it can on canon/nikon/sony FF's. Maybe Sigma is going to hold off until Pentax does release their full frame? Also, regarding the tilt-shift lens, it was just listed at B&H for everyone except for Pentax Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

02-20-2013, 10:51 PM	#65
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by Adam Being a pro sports lens, I'm not surprised that Sigma isn't going to offer the 120-300mm for Pentax. At CP+ they said that the 35mm F1.4 would eventually be released, but being a full-frame lens, it obviously won't be enjoyed as much on a Pentax as it can on canon/nikon/sony FF's. Maybe Sigma is going to hold off until Pentax does release their full frame? Also, regarding the tilt-shift lens, it was just listed at B&H for everyone except for Pentax The handwriting is on the wall....Pentax needs to make a splash soon or their 3rd party support is going to shrivel up and die.

02-21-2013, 06:39 AM	#66
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Originally posted by cali92rs The handwriting is on the wall....Pentax needs to make a splash soon or their 3rd party support is going to shrivel up and die. I wouldn't mind somehow seeing the sales numbers of lens' between Pentax and Sigma - both for PK only. Something already "tells me" that Sigma is already outselling Pentax for PK. Sigma isn't going to abandon PK anytime soon; although there is a rather limited supply of PK lens versus what they have for other camera mounts. Making ones voice (and word) be heard really adds up. Simply drop Sigma a tactful note on items such as Facebook, email, and even snail mail. Chances are, that if Sigma gets a good portion of genuine letters from PK'ers about wanting a particular lens' then it just might motivate them to release it.

02-21-2013, 06:51 AM	#67
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Medium FormatPro Sigma isn't going to abandon PK anytime soon; although there is a rather limited supply of PK lens versus what they have for other camera mounts. I don't think Sony's getting more love from Sigma either..

02-24-2013, 07:22 AM	#68
Big G Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 581	Except for cheap E mount wide angle primes that are rather damn good. Sigma have done good things in that space.

03-01-2013, 08:09 PM	#69
captainbert Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Derry Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 776	I emailed Samyang in the UK and they neither confirmed or denied that it would or wouldn't be released in Pentax mount at some stage, but he or she just said that they suspected Canon and Nikon in the first instance (no mention of Sony in the email). I am dying for a tilt shift lens (for more experimental purposes than anything). I seem a few people post about the Arax 35mm tilt shift or MC Arsat but I can't find a lot of info on them. Could anyone advise if they are any way good?

03-06-2013, 03:02 AM	#70
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	Originally posted by captainbert I emailed Samyang in the UK and they neither confirmed or denied that it would or wouldn't be released in Pentax mount at some stage, but he or she just said that they suspected Canon and Nikon in the first instance (no mention of Sony in the email). I am dying for a tilt shift lens (for more experimental purposes than anything). I seem a few people post about the Arax 35mm tilt shift or MC Arsat but I can't find a lot of info on them. Could anyone advise if they are any way good? I had the Hartblei 120/2,8 T&S Superrotator, that I used for macro with diopters, and was exceptionally good. Sadly I sold it in when I was in a Pentax-purist phase.

07-09-2013, 12:19 AM	#71
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727 Original Poster	It took some time for me to decide, but I just preordered the Samyang 24 T/S (from the UK). It's not available yet, closest estimate being 3 to 6 weeks, but that's just a guess. I'll report back here once I know more... Wim

07-09-2013, 05:48 AM	#72
noVICE Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 164	Did I miss something? I thought that Samyang decided to not release this lens for K mount?? https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/223015-new-sam...le-pentax.html

07-09-2013, 07:35 AM	#73
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by noVICE I thought that Samyang decided to not release this lens for K mount? The jury still seems out on that point. Ultimately, when it is in Adorama or BandH, or on eBay, that will determine the question.

07-09-2013, 11:40 AM	#74
Tesfaye Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Trondheim Posts: 27	Originally posted by panoguy Really, if any lens maker is (slowly) abandoning Pentax, it's Sigma. Where's the long-delayed 120-300/2.8 K-mount? When will the new and lustworthy 35/1.4 be available in K-mount? Both the two leading suppliers of camera gear in Norway list the Sigma 35/1.4 in Pentax mount. None of them have it available yet, but one of them suggests that they should get it in about a week's time. Furthermore, the 18-35 is supposed to be available in October. I suppose this is based on information from Sigma. But of course, it certainly is frustrating when the lens you want can only be mounted on a camera you have no intention of buying.

07-09-2013, 01:08 PM	#75
Talisker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Isle of Skye, Scotland Photos: Gallery Posts: 262	Well, the Samyang UK distributors page shows it being available and it can be ordered from WEX and Park Cameras among others. Ultimately, Adorama and B&H don't determine what is available in the UK. Pity it's not really wide enough for APC-S though.