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**RobA_Oz** · 09-10-2012, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by rawr

I guess it could have been worse. It could have come in pink.

Hadn't thought of that...

Tom S. · 09-10-2012, 06:56 AM

I wonder how long before they raise the price on it and offer rebates?

Mistral75 · 09-10-2012, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by rawr

I guess it could have been worse. It could have come in pink.

Who told you it won't?

**Aristophanes** · 09-10-2012, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

The price which is still unknown, is expected to be lower than similar lenses from other manufacturers.

Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share?

Ishpuini · 09-10-2012, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share?

Guess you need sth to catch the attention as well?

Wim

Docrwm · 09-10-2012, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share?

Because Pentax already makes telescopes that are very similar - minimal investment. Also, there was a hole in the long end of the range of lenses and other makers have started to release even longer lenses recently.

JohnBee · 09-10-2012, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share?

I think Pentax' moto is to stand-out.
Though I'd agree on the strangeness factor of such a lens when there is so much more to consider.

Then again... perhaps this lens will be so incredibly good for the wildlife crowd that it will redefine the Pentax name for years to come. - time will tell.

**crewl1** · 09-10-2012, 08:28 AM

I think the hope is it will be bring a 'flock' of new birders to Pentax and away from Canon.

As for the white, I wonder if I can buy shares in the LensCoat company? - LensCoat

Kunzite · 09-10-2012, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share?

Because they want to move up from struggling?

RonHendriks1966 · 09-10-2012, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share?

This fills a gap in the lensline for users who are prepared to buy an expensive lens with a brand new camera.

JohnBee · 09-10-2012, 11:31 AM

Detailed specs added.

**crewl1** · 09-10-2012, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

Squeeze nine wings

Leave it to Pentax engineers to figure out how to squeeze nine wings!

521.7mm = 20.54 inches +-

**Pål Jensen** · 09-10-2012, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

Detailed specs added.

Hmm The front screw of the prototype is gone so it seem that the collapsible design of the prototype has been abandoned. Too expensive or complex to implement?

7 elelements in six groups and 2 ED lenses means it is not going to be cheap.

janneman · 09-10-2012, 12:09 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share?

There has been much whining about Pentax not having this lens....

I think this a trial to see if a Pentax FF will sell...
They have counted all posts that ask for this lens, then they will look at salesnumbers and if salesnumbers don't match the number of people who complained about it, they will know the same applies to FF.. So i f there is no Pentax FF, it is all due to those who said they wanted a long lens but not bought it when it came...

Blue · 09-10-2012, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

Hmm The front screw of the prototype is gone so it seem that the collapsible design of the prototype has been abandoned. Too expensive or complex to implement?

7 elelements in six groups and 2 ED lenses means it is not going to be cheap.

It shows some promise regarding optical quality.

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09-10-2012, 06:54 AM	#16
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by rawr I guess it could have been worse. It could have come in pink. Hadn't thought of that...

09-10-2012, 06:56 AM	#17
Tom S. Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 4,317	I wonder how long before they raise the price on it and offer rebates?

09-10-2012, 06:58 AM	#18
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by rawr I guess it could have been worse. It could have come in pink. Who told you it won't?

09-10-2012, 08:03 AM	#19
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by JohnBee The price which is still unknown, is expected to be lower than similar lenses from other manufacturers. Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share?

09-10-2012, 08:05 AM	#20
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by Aristophanes Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share? Guess you need sth to catch the attention as well? Wim

09-10-2012, 08:14 AM	#21
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by Aristophanes Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share? Because Pentax already makes telescopes that are very similar - minimal investment. Also, there was a hole in the long end of the range of lenses and other makers have started to release even longer lenses recently.

09-10-2012, 08:16 AM	#22
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667 Original Poster	Originally posted by Aristophanes Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share? I think Pentax' moto is to stand-out. Though I'd agree on the strangeness factor of such a lens when there is so much more to consider. Then again... perhaps this lens will be so incredibly good for the wildlife crowd that it will redefine the Pentax name for years to come. - time will tell.

09-10-2012, 08:28 AM	#23
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	I think the hope is it will be bring a 'flock' of new birders to Pentax and away from Canon. As for the white, I wonder if I can buy shares in the LensCoat company? - LensCoat

09-10-2012, 08:45 AM	#24
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Aristophanes Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share? Because they want to move up from struggling?

09-10-2012, 09:56 AM	#25
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Aristophanes Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share? This fills a gap in the lensline for users who are prepared to buy an expensive lens with a brand new camera.

09-10-2012, 11:31 AM	#26
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667 Original Poster	Detailed specs added.

09-10-2012, 11:51 AM	#27
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Originally posted by JohnBee Squeeze nine wings Leave it to Pentax engineers to figure out how to squeeze nine wings! 521.7mm = 20.54 inches +-

09-10-2012, 11:53 AM	#28
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by JohnBee Detailed specs added. Hmm The front screw of the prototype is gone so it seem that the collapsible design of the prototype has been abandoned. Too expensive or complex to implement? 7 elelements in six groups and 2 ED lenses means it is not going to be cheap.

09-10-2012, 12:09 PM - 1 Like	#29
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by Aristophanes Why this lens and not those of more practical FL's for a company struggling with market share? There has been much whining about Pentax not having this lens.... I think this a trial to see if a Pentax FF will sell... They have counted all posts that ask for this lens, then they will look at salesnumbers and if salesnumbers don't match the number of people who complained about it, they will know the same applies to FF.. So i f there is no Pentax FF, it is all due to those who said they wanted a long lens but not bought it when it came...

09-10-2012, 12:29 PM	#30
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Pål Jensen Hmm The front screw of the prototype is gone so it seem that the collapsible design of the prototype has been abandoned. Too expensive or complex to implement? 7 elelements in six groups and 2 ED lenses means it is not going to be cheap. It shows some promise regarding optical quality.

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