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09-10-2012, 12:37 PM   #46
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Because Canon doesn't share, and Pentax already has a history/relationship with Sony sensors (as do other cam makers.)

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Is there a reason Pentax/Ricoh wouldn't use the Canon 5D MKII 21mp ff sensor in a new Pentax full frame instead of the Sony/Nikon sensor? Just asking
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I'd be happy with that Canon sensor, ff, low noise, etc. I hate hving to use noise reduction on ISO800 shots from my K5
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QuoteOriginally posted by Franky2step Quote
Is there a reason Pentax/Ricoh wouldn't use the Canon 5D MKII 21mp ff sensor in a new Pentax full frame instead of the Sony/Nikon sensor? Just asking
Canon NEVER ever did share one of their sensors.
But they use Sony sensors in their compact cams

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It seems we all have a lot of time to kill until 6pm EST eh
I'll go grab some beer then.
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Did you check DXOmark on this subject? While the Mk III sensor is nearly a stop better in ISO, as would be expected simply from being FF, DR is actually less than K-5. IOW, not much special in the Canon sensor.

Now, if you think you can talk Nikon into sharing their D800 sensor (if it really is theirs), that would be an interesting move.

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1:00 am ... I will not go to bed early but I hope that it is not a rumor ...
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I don't want to be the instigator in all of this but...

Eastern Standard Time (EST)
2:02:28 PM
Monday, 10 September 2012

Only 4 hours to go people
Is there a website where we can follow it live ? Like an Apple keynote maybe ?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Franky2step Quote
I'd be happy with that Canon sensor, ff, low noise, etc. I hate having to use noise reduction on ISO800 shots from my K5
Well, I own both a K-5 and a 5D MKII. Frankly, both have their advantages and drawbacks.

The mix -a kind of K-5 with the 5D sensor- would be quite tempting as Pentax ergonomics and functions are far superior (please just grab/add the f2.8 central AF point of the Canon). But if one can recover nearly 1EV from the highlights, just push the shadows by 2EV and you will see what banding means...

At ISO 800 one has to use NR on the Canon. At ISO 6400/8000 and sometimes even higher, it's possible to get consistent images from the K-5. Good luck with the 5D... Well, it might just be mine, and I must admit I'm not that experienced with it yet.

Am desperately waiting for Pentax to lauch that rumored 24Mp FF so that I could stop carrying 2 brands. It starts to become heavy and expensive
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Is there a website where we can follow it live ? Like an Apple keynote maybe ?
Here ya go:
Pentax Announcement Countdown
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Where would be the first place to have a record of the announcement? Pentax's website? (not likely)? Here?
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Where would be the first place to have a record of the announcement? Pentax's website? (not likely)? Here?
I just got this through facebook; someone leaked all the products on one page:

Pentax Photokina 2012 Announcements - pentaxpricewatch.com
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check the PF home page.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Franky2step Quote
Is there a reason Pentax/Ricoh wouldn't use the Canon 5D MKII 21mp ff sensor [...] I'd be happy with that Canon sensor, ff, low noise, etc. I hate hving to use noise reduction on ISO800 shots from my K5
Wat?

The 5D2 sensor is ancient tech. Who would want that. Having worked with the 5D2, I can confirm it has plenty of noise, and banding, and low DR.

And I don't think I've ever heard of anyone ever having any noise problems with the K-5 at only ISO 800. At that ISO, K-5 output is very, very clean.

If Pentax went with a Canon FF sensor, which will never happen in a million years since Canon keep their sensors to themselves, the one in the 5D3 would be the one to choose.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kikool_CH Quote
Well, I own both a K-5 and a 5D MKII. Frankly, both have their advantages and drawbacks.

The mix -a kind of K-5 with the 5D sensor- would be quite tempting as Pentax ergonomics and functions are far superior (please just grab/add the f2.8 central AF point of the Canon). But if one can recover nearly 1EV from the highlights, just push the shadows by 2EV and you will see what banding means...

At ISO 800 one has to use NR on the Canon. At ISO 6400/8000 and sometimes even higher, it's possible to get consistent images from the K-5. Good luck with the 5D... Well, it might just be mine, and I must admit I'm not that experienced with it yet.

Am desperately waiting for Pentax to lauch that rumored 24Mp FF so that I could stop carrying 2 brands. It starts to become heavy and expensive
I shoot with a 5DII & K5 also. If one of them came out with a small full frame with WR, I'd be back to one brand in a heartbeat.
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