The Rumors Were True - K-5 II, K-5IIs, Q10, 560mm, 18-270mm, and more!

fearview · 09-11-2012, 02:13 AM

will the 645 DFA 90 2.8 have backawar compatibilty with 645 film? in shake reduction feature?
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Smolk · 09-11-2012, 04:56 AM

Originally posted by fearview

will the 645 DFA 90 2.8 have backawar compatibilty with 645 film? in shake reduction feature?
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if it would work, and I cannot see why not, it would be limited to f. 2.8 because these new lenses do not sport the aperture ring...

kenyee · 09-11-2012, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by Alizarine

The release of 2 different versions of the K-5 II somehow really damps the idea of a higher model K-3. Because if a K-3 were to be released above the IIs, then why didn't just they put the 2 versions in the K-3?

If the rumors about Sony hoarding sensors for its own launch (their A99 and their DXT1 which is an interest almost pocket sized FF P&S) and Nikon's D600, that's easily understandable. Pentax is odd man out because of their comparatively low volume.
But of the A99/DXT1/D600 rumors really are true (and they're too noisy to be false by now), it also means Pentax really doesn't have much of a choice w/ FF because the other makers are essentially putting FF in Pentax's targeted price point $1500ish in the market. Given the choice of D600 vs. K5II at the same price point, I suspect most people will take the D600 (me included...sorry)..

ElJamoquio · 09-11-2012, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by LamyTax

Marketing 101.

Yes, i think the people at Pentax should take it.

WerTicus · 09-12-2012, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by kenyee

the other makers are essentially putting FF in Pentax's targeted price point $1500ish in the market. Given the choice of D600 vs. K5II at the same price point, I suspect most people will take the D600 (me included...sorry)..

except FF at that price point wont be happening, even from pentax.

Zygonyx · 09-12-2012, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by Smolk

if it would work, and I cannot see why not, it would be limited to f. 2.8 because these new lenses do not sport the aperture ring...

Full compatibility in terms of exposure and manual aperture of the D-FA serie with 645NII, thanks to SLR's internal control buttons.
But i don't see stabilization working, same as AF.

twitch · 09-12-2012, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by WerTicus

except FF at that price point wont be happening, even from pentax.

On Thursday 13 September we'll know

Tonto · 09-12-2012, 03:00 AM

A decent spec FF between, the price of a d600 and the d800 with say a 24mp sensor would be the goods- there is still hope yet - This Photokina really looks like the year of the FF release-eg Sony/Canon/Nokia all with big FF models, Pentax needs SOMETHING to be hinted at- there have been rumours of the A99 and d600 for a while combined with the huge success of the d800 its not like this hasn't been seen coming- Arguably since the Sony A850 has there been a lower cost FF trend and that was several years ago.

**Pål Jensen** · 09-12-2012, 03:03 AM

The Sony FF camera is rumored at $2800. It will be another flop.

Asahiflex · 09-12-2012, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by twitch

On Thursday 13 September we'll know

Why that particular date?

janneman · 09-12-2012, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by WerTicus

except FF at that price point wont be happening, even from pentax.

Originally posted by twitch

On Thursday 13 September we'll know

Originally posted by Asahiflex

Why that particular date?

My guess is he means that at that date the D600 and it's price will be revealed...
The "even for Pentax" bit probably suggests we won't see a Pentax FF announcement tomorrow., the 13th.

ElJamoquio · 09-12-2012, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

Why that particular date?

The D600 will be announced, according to many rumors. Some people have it pegged at as low as $1500. My current thought is $2300 though I've waffled from $1800 to $2500.

Kunzite · 09-12-2012, 07:14 AM

Nikonrumors is talking about ~$2700, which I find believable.

ElJamoquio · 09-12-2012, 07:16 AM

$2700 is way too close to the D800 price of $3k. If it was a canon I'd agree with you... but Nikon, lately, has a habit of charging less than they could, apparently to gain market share.

Kunzite · 09-12-2012, 07:24 AM

Well, that was actually a yen-usd conversion (210.000 yen). The actual U.S. price should be lower, I'd guess around $2500?

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09-11-2012, 02:13 AM	#61
fearview Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jakarta Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,067	will the 645 DFA 90 2.8 have backawar compatibilty with 645 film? in shake reduction feature? .

09-11-2012, 04:56 AM	#62
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Originally posted by fearview will the 645 DFA 90 2.8 have backawar compatibilty with 645 film? in shake reduction feature? . if it would work, and I cannot see why not, it would be limited to f. 2.8 because these new lenses do not sport the aperture ring...

09-11-2012, 06:30 AM	#63
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by Alizarine The release of 2 different versions of the K-5 II somehow really damps the idea of a higher model K-3. Because if a K-3 were to be released above the IIs, then why didn't just they put the 2 versions in the K-3? If the rumors about Sony hoarding sensors for its own launch (their A99 and their DXT1 which is an interest almost pocket sized FF P&S) and Nikon's D600, that's easily understandable. Pentax is odd man out because of their comparatively low volume. But of the A99/DXT1/D600 rumors really are true (and they're too noisy to be false by now), it also means Pentax really doesn't have much of a choice w/ FF because the other makers are essentially putting FF in Pentax's targeted price point $1500ish in the market. Given the choice of D600 vs. K5II at the same price point, I suspect most people will take the D600 (me included...sorry)..

09-11-2012, 06:54 AM	#64
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by LamyTax Marketing 101. Yes, i think the people at Pentax should take it.

09-12-2012, 02:11 AM	#65
WerTicus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Perth Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,514	Originally posted by kenyee the other makers are essentially putting FF in Pentax's targeted price point $1500ish in the market. Given the choice of D600 vs. K5II at the same price point, I suspect most people will take the D600 (me included...sorry).. except FF at that price point wont be happening, even from pentax.

09-12-2012, 02:21 AM	#66
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by Smolk if it would work, and I cannot see why not, it would be limited to f. 2.8 because these new lenses do not sport the aperture ring... Full compatibility in terms of exposure and manual aperture of the D-FA serie with 645NII, thanks to SLR's internal control buttons. But i don't see stabilization working, same as AF.

09-12-2012, 02:23 AM	#67
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Originally posted by WerTicus except FF at that price point wont be happening, even from pentax. On Thursday 13 September we'll know

09-12-2012, 03:00 AM	#68
Tonto Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 969	A decent spec FF between, the price of a d600 and the d800 with say a 24mp sensor would be the goods- there is still hope yet - This Photokina really looks like the year of the FF release-eg Sony/Canon/Nokia all with big FF models, Pentax needs SOMETHING to be hinted at- there have been rumours of the A99 and d600 for a while combined with the huge success of the d800 its not like this hasn't been seen coming- Arguably since the Sony A850 has there been a lower cost FF trend and that was several years ago.

09-12-2012, 03:03 AM	#69
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	The Sony FF camera is rumored at $2800. It will be another flop.

09-12-2012, 03:19 AM	#70
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by twitch On Thursday 13 September we'll know Why that particular date?

09-12-2012, 03:24 AM	#71
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by WerTicus except FF at that price point wont be happening, even from pentax. Originally posted by twitch On Thursday 13 September we'll know Originally posted by Asahiflex Why that particular date? My guess is he means that at that date the D600 and it's price will be revealed... The "even for Pentax" bit probably suggests we won't see a Pentax FF announcement tomorrow., the 13th.

09-12-2012, 07:09 AM	#72
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by Asahiflex Why that particular date? The D600 will be announced, according to many rumors. Some people have it pegged at as low as $1500. My current thought is $2300 though I've waffled from $1800 to $2500.

09-12-2012, 07:14 AM	#73
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Nikonrumors is talking about ~$2700, which I find believable.

09-12-2012, 07:16 AM	#74
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	$2700 is way too close to the D800 price of $3k. If it was a canon I'd agree with you... but Nikon, lately, has a habit of charging less than they could, apparently to gain market share.

09-12-2012, 07:24 AM	#75
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Well, that was actually a yen-usd conversion (210.000 yen). The actual U.S. price should be lower, I'd guess around $2500?