Pentax announces official product updates!

raider · 09-10-2012, 04:06 PM

No mention of focus peaking on the k-5 II? Does it not come with it....

Is the prime 2 processor better than the one in the k-30?

twitch · 09-10-2012, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by JohnBee

I agree.
Very confusing.
I'm thinking that perhaps the Pentax/Ricoh team sat down and worked really hard to come-up with a product strategy that would meet the available resources and deadline for the show.

There's no doubt in my mind a much improved imaging engine will be in the K-3 24MP camera. They are heading for a 3 tier DSLR lineup: K30, K5II/s, K3. I'm not so sure a FF is on the horizon now.

salgueiros · 09-10-2012, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by arnold

I only use one focusing spot. I'd give you the other ten if I could.

I could not agree more....

mee · 09-10-2012, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by JohnBee

You are right.
I forgot about that

/returns to hoping ...

Doesn't look good for a K-300 then..

Looks like it is K-30 --> K-5 mk II/s --> K3 (maybe)

**maxfield_photo** · 09-10-2012, 04:20 PM

<Sigh> Eight announcements, and not one I give a damn about. The HD coating is by far the most exciting, but I wish they had called it SMC+ or something. It's time I acknowledge the writing that has been on the well for the last three years, if one's brand doesn't produce products that interest one, then it's time to switch brands. Guess I'll keep the film lenses for now.

JohnBee · 09-10-2012, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by maxfield_photo

<Sigh> Eight announcements, and not one I give a damn about. The HD coating is by far the most exciting, but I wish they had called it SMC+ or something. It's time I acknowledge the writing that has been on the well for the last three years, if one's brand doesn't produce products that interest one, then it's time to switch brands. Guess I'll keep the film lenses for now.

I wonder if were going to see this new coating appear on older lenses such as the LTD's?

nanok · 09-10-2012, 04:23 PM - **1 Like**

heeere we go. i am honestly not that interested in the announcement itself, but it's worth it just to see the reaction. what were you expecting? don't you understand there is NO sensor better or even close to the one in the k-5, today. none, not the 24mp fiasco that followed, none comes close. the engineer at sony who designed it was probably in a moment of revelation, and was most likely stoned to death after they realized what he had done (may his soul rest in peace). the engineer at pentax who correctly observed this is still the best sensor on the market, and there's no need to **** around with something else diserves 1. beer (or respective equivalent) 2. our gratitude, as this is a sign of respect towards the pentax community (which might prove to be undeserved, the way things are going) "those guys won't fall for more pixels and crappier quality"

all speculation at this point is worthless, there's no more rumors, we have specs. now all we can do is wait for actual reviews, and see what these specs mean. what does the new af system really mean? tweaked (to -3 ev? hmm), great in low light, and fast, bust still couldn't track an ocean liner crossing the frame in 5 minutes? low light, fast, and tracking good enough to give the canon 7d (for instance) a run for it's money? if it is faster, are there any lenses that can make use of that? (ugh). truth is, we don't know, and until we do, i suggest we hold the "bleah, boring" 's and the "this doesn't look like 2y of r&d" 's. i've been on this forum long enough to be able to write a book about "bitching about subpar af", so now it seems they listened, and made you your killer af. at least wait to see what it's like, ffs. did you expect a full frame in a k5 body with class-leading af, a sensor nikon, canon sony and phase one would collectively drool at and mind control technology for 500bucks? well, just be patient, maybe they'll release that at photokina in a week.

/me walks of mumbling something unintelligible

i83N · 09-10-2012, 04:23 PM

Know what, I'm glad that PEF raw files stayed at K-5II/IIs

aurele · 09-10-2012, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by raider

No mention of focus peaking on the k-5 II? Does it not come with it....

Is the prime 2 processor better than the one in the k-30?

nop, the Prime II is the previous processor.

The PRIME M is the new processor.

So, the prime M is better.

JohnBee · 09-10-2012, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by aurele

nop, the Prime II is the previous processor.

The PRIME M is the new processor.

So, the prime M is better.

So no focus peeking?
Sad news indeed

Cambo · 09-10-2012, 04:27 PM

Like the looks of the new Q, and the K5IIs sounds amazing, as does the 18-270; does this have the resolution to keep up with a K5IIs I wonder?

And the 560 mm is a SERIOUS piece of glass, and I think it will signal to the market that Pentax is once again a serious camera company, which they have not been able to do since the film days and in the wake of the full frame disaster in 2000.

Nice going, Pentax! Now to sell my FA*s so I can afford some of this stuff.

Cheers,
Cameron

RonHendriks1966 · 09-10-2012, 04:31 PM

Wow tha 560mm lens is expensive. Way out of my league.

i83N · 09-10-2012, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by JohnBee

So no focus peeking?
Sad news indeed

Are you sure focus peeking is done on PRIREM not on SAFOX ?

pinholecam · 09-10-2012, 04:33 PM

There must have been a mistake w/ the 560mm pricing. The Sigma 500/4.5 is a wonderful lens for much less.
Seems like $6k would fit a 645Dii as pricing...

K5iis is a good improvement.
For the complainers, just bring up an aps-c dslr that will now match or better the K5iis in performance/price.
Nikon also did the same before with D300/D300s, so whats the big deal.

The Q front is a good improvement.
A Q10 to address the price problem the Q1 had in finding acceptance.
I'm eager to see the performance of the 15-45/2.8 tele before deciding on one.
The adapter has a shutter, but will it have 1/250 flash sync? (Need to check before buying)

I'd expect the high end aps-c to be announced later.
So at least K30 > K5ii > K3 for aps-c

Kunzite · 09-10-2012, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by i83N

Are you sure focus peeking is done on PRIREM not on SAFOX ?

Yes, it's done on the PRIME in Live View mode; the SAFOX is their classic phase detection AF system.

09-10-2012, 04:27 PM	#41
Cambo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,016	Nice stuff... Like the looks of the new Q, and the K5IIs sounds amazing, as does the 18-270; does this have the resolution to keep up with a K5IIs I wonder? And the 560 mm is a SERIOUS piece of glass, and I think it will signal to the market that Pentax is once again a serious camera company, which they have not been able to do since the film days and in the wake of the full frame disaster in 2000. Nice going, Pentax! Now to sell my FA*s so I can afford some of this stuff. Cheers, Cameron

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09-10-2012, 04:06 PM	#31
raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,989	No mention of focus peaking on the k-5 II? Does it not come with it.... Is the prime 2 processor better than the one in the k-30?

09-10-2012, 04:07 PM	#32
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Originally posted by JohnBee I agree. Very confusing. I'm thinking that perhaps the Pentax/Ricoh team sat down and worked really hard to come-up with a product strategy that would meet the available resources and deadline for the show. There's no doubt in my mind a much improved imaging engine will be in the K-3 24MP camera. They are heading for a 3 tier DSLR lineup: K30, K5II/s, K3. I'm not so sure a FF is on the horizon now.

09-10-2012, 04:07 PM	#33
salgueiros Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Canada and Portugal Posts: 107	Originally posted by arnold I only use one focusing spot. I'd give you the other ten if I could. I could not agree more....

09-10-2012, 04:07 PM	#34
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by JohnBee You are right. I forgot about that /returns to hoping ... Doesn't look good for a K-300 then.. Looks like it is K-30 --> K-5 mk II/s --> K3 (maybe)

09-10-2012, 04:20 PM	#35
maxfield_photo Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,216	<Sigh> Eight announcements, and not one I give a damn about. The HD coating is by far the most exciting, but I wish they had called it SMC+ or something. It's time I acknowledge the writing that has been on the well for the last three years, if one's brand doesn't produce products that interest one, then it's time to switch brands. Guess I'll keep the film lenses for now.

09-10-2012, 04:22 PM	#36
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667 Original Poster	Originally posted by maxfield_photo <Sigh> Eight announcements, and not one I give a damn about. The HD coating is by far the most exciting, but I wish they had called it SMC+ or something. It's time I acknowledge the writing that has been on the well for the last three years, if one's brand doesn't produce products that interest one, then it's time to switch brands. Guess I'll keep the film lenses for now. I wonder if were going to see this new coating appear on older lenses such as the LTD's?

09-10-2012, 04:23 PM - 1 Like	#37
nanok Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 969	heeere we go. i am honestly not that interested in the announcement itself, but it's worth it just to see the reaction. what were you expecting? don't you understand there is NO sensor better or even close to the one in the k-5, today. none, not the 24mp fiasco that followed, none comes close. the engineer at sony who designed it was probably in a moment of revelation, and was most likely stoned to death after they realized what he had done (may his soul rest in peace). the engineer at pentax who correctly observed this is still the best sensor on the market, and there's no need to **** around with something else diserves 1. beer (or respective equivalent) 2. our gratitude, as this is a sign of respect towards the pentax community (which might prove to be undeserved, the way things are going) "those guys won't fall for more pixels and crappier quality" all speculation at this point is worthless, there's no more rumors, we have specs. now all we can do is wait for actual reviews, and see what these specs mean. what does the new af system really mean? tweaked (to -3 ev? hmm), great in low light, and fast, bust still couldn't track an ocean liner crossing the frame in 5 minutes? low light, fast, and tracking good enough to give the canon 7d (for instance) a run for it's money? if it is faster, are there any lenses that can make use of that? (ugh). truth is, we don't know, and until we do, i suggest we hold the "bleah, boring" 's and the "this doesn't look like 2y of r&d" 's. i've been on this forum long enough to be able to write a book about "bitching about subpar af", so now it seems they listened, and made you your killer af. at least wait to see what it's like, ffs. did you expect a full frame in a k5 body with class-leading af, a sensor nikon, canon sony and phase one would collectively drool at and mind control technology for 500bucks? well, just be patient, maybe they'll release that at photokina in a week. /me walks of mumbling something unintelligible

09-10-2012, 04:23 PM	#38
i83N Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,203	Know what, I'm glad that PEF raw files stayed at K-5II/IIs

09-10-2012, 04:25 PM	#39
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	Originally posted by raider No mention of focus peaking on the k-5 II? Does it not come with it.... Is the prime 2 processor better than the one in the k-30? nop, the Prime II is the previous processor. The PRIME M is the new processor. So, the prime M is better.

09-10-2012, 04:27 PM	#40
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667 Original Poster	Originally posted by aurele nop, the Prime II is the previous processor. The PRIME M is the new processor. So, the prime M is better. So no focus peeking? Sad news indeed

09-10-2012, 04:31 PM	#42
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Wow tha 560mm lens is expensive. Way out of my league.

09-10-2012, 04:33 PM	#43
i83N Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,203	Originally posted by JohnBee So no focus peeking? Sad news indeed Are you sure focus peeking is done on PRIREM not on SAFOX ?

09-10-2012, 04:33 PM	#44
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	There must have been a mistake w/ the 560mm pricing. The Sigma 500/4.5 is a wonderful lens for much less. Seems like $6k would fit a 645Dii as pricing... K5iis is a good improvement. For the complainers, just bring up an aps-c dslr that will now match or better the K5iis in performance/price. Nikon also did the same before with D300/D300s, so whats the big deal. The Q front is a good improvement. A Q10 to address the price problem the Q1 had in finding acceptance. I'm eager to see the performance of the 15-45/2.8 tele before deciding on one. The adapter has a shutter, but will it have 1/250 flash sync? (Need to check before buying) I'd expect the high end aps-c to be announced later. So at least K30 > K5ii > K3 for aps-c

09-10-2012, 04:37 PM	#45
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by i83N Are you sure focus peeking is done on PRIREM not on SAFOX ? Yes, it's done on the PRIME in Live View mode; the SAFOX is their classic phase detection AF system.