What happened to adam's FF is coming thread? Why was it pulled down?

zosxavius · 09-12-2012, 01:15 PM

Ricoh hasn't even owned pentax for a whole year. They are still on the hoya roadmap. I dunno if the k30 was a rocoh pentax or a hoya roadmapped product, but I took it as a good sign pentax/ricoh are serious. I wouldn't bet on them giving up on aps-c either....they have too much invested in crop sensors and lenses....

JenniferLeigh · 09-12-2012, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by janneman

It was pulled because it was bad news....
He mentioned the K-5II as a stop gap for upcoming things.... then he suggests FF like thingies... To me that sounded like `we go forward on FF and will halt any high end APS-C dvelopment...`

That isn't what I took from the post. I highly doubt they would stop APS-C development any time soon.

Smolk · 09-12-2012, 01:25 PM

The thread is back, but the first post by Adam has been, well, let's say edited.
The answers are celar about what it said

janneman · 09-12-2012, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by JenniferLeigh

That isn't what I took from the post. I highly doubt they would stop APS-C development any time soon.

OGL did suggest something similar although he does foresee a more advanced K-3
OGL Says

Originally posted by ogl

I don't think so...K-3 will be flagship model and close the line of APS-C cameras.
And it could be high-end camera till FF realese.

That is two indications of the end of high end APS-C.
Worryworry, will they make a FF in the body of a K-5? Not bigger?

BTW I was about to make a remark in the other thread when I had to do something else, the screen for typing was still open so I do have the quote which suggested that available

Quote:

To quote adam...

Originally posted by Adam:

In other words, the K-5 II can be more or less seen as a stop-gap measure

This suggests a stop-gap while we wait for FF, so no more advanced APS-C in near future... Which I am more interested in and if there is one thing that annoys me greatly is that Pentax releaes are rarely if ever available (exception K-5 but that was very dicey with all the stain issues) in time for Carnaval... I had some hopes but they are shattered.
Oh well, maybe I could use the Samyang Tilt Shift..

**Pål Jensen** · 09-12-2012, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by janneman

It was pulled because it was bad news....
He mentioned the K-5II as a stop gap for upcoming things.... then he suggests FF like thingies... To me that sounded like `we go forward on FF and will halt any high end APS-C dvelopment...`

Considering that FF cameras cost twice as much as a top APS DSLR the above doesn't make much sense.

fikkser · 09-12-2012, 01:34 PM

I've got the post saved if anyone wants it. :-)

joakimfors · 09-12-2012, 01:51 PM

Put it on ebay and see how much you'll get for it.

**Fontan** · 09-12-2012, 01:51 PM - **2 Likes**

I heard that even iphone 5 is FF.

Mistral75 · 09-12-2012, 02:05 PM

Here is what I think are the juicy bits of the post.

Original title was "Don't lose hope in Pentax - the Full-Frame awaits us".

Then it was stated "In other words, the K-5 II can be more or less seen as a stop-gap measure. I'm going to hang on to my K-5 I and wait patiently until next summer. To give Ricoh some credit, you can't exactly design, develop, and deploy a groundbreaking new body over the course of just 1 year"

beholder3 · 09-12-2012, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by zosxavius

Did you say too much adam? =)

What do you mean? Something along these lines:

Quote:

I've been told that the products announced a couple of days ago, as well as all the products announced so far this year by Pentax, have all been part of the Hoya product roadmap for Pentax, rather than Ricoh's doing. Ricoh's big plans for Pentax are supposedly secret and internal, and as such, rumors surrounding them will be minimal. "Big plans" means that there will be an FF and pro gear- the release date of the FF is not certain right now, but it is very likely that it will at least be mentioned at CP+ 2013. You guys are going to have to trust me that I didn't just make this up

In other words, the K-5 II can be more or less seen as a stop-gap measure

I'm going to hang on to my K-5 I and wait patiently until next summer. To give Ricoh some credit, you can't exactly design, develop, and deploy a groundbreaking new body over the course of just 1 year...

Quicksand · 09-12-2012, 02:59 PM

Yeah, might have been something like that. Hm.

zosxavius · 09-12-2012, 03:30 PM

Thanks for preserving that.

zosxavius · 09-12-2012, 03:30 PM

I think adam knows a lot more than he is letting on......

DaveHolmes · 09-12-2012, 03:36 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by zosxavius

I think adam knows a lot more than he is letting on......

Well he is the first-born of God's children...

JohnBee · 09-12-2012, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by DaveHolmes

Well he is the first-born of God's children...

I don't mean to instigate, but I don't think the Adam you're talking about proved to be very smart.

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09-12-2012, 01:15 PM	#16
zosxavius Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Somewhere, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 458 Original Poster	Ricoh hasn't even owned pentax for a whole year. They are still on the hoya roadmap. I dunno if the k30 was a rocoh pentax or a hoya roadmapped product, but I took it as a good sign pentax/ricoh are serious. I wouldn't bet on them giving up on aps-c either....they have too much invested in crop sensors and lenses....

09-12-2012, 01:16 PM	#17
JenniferLeigh Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Southern Alberta Posts: 281	Originally posted by janneman It was pulled because it was bad news.... He mentioned the K-5II as a stop gap for upcoming things.... then he suggests FF like thingies... To me that sounded like `we go forward on FF and will halt any high end APS-C dvelopment...` That isn't what I took from the post. I highly doubt they would stop APS-C development any time soon.

09-12-2012, 01:25 PM	#18
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	The thread is back, but the first post by Adam has been, well, let's say edited. The answers are celar about what it said

09-12-2012, 01:29 PM	#19
janneman Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 908	Originally posted by JenniferLeigh That isn't what I took from the post. I highly doubt they would stop APS-C development any time soon. OGL did suggest something similar although he does foresee a more advanced K-3 OGL Says Originally posted by ogl I don't think so...K-3 will be flagship model and close the line of APS-C cameras. And it could be high-end camera till FF realese. That is two indications of the end of high end APS-C. Worryworry, will they make a FF in the body of a K-5? Not bigger? BTW I was about to make a remark in the other thread when I had to do something else, the screen for typing was still open so I do have the quote which suggested that available Quote: To quote adam... Originally posted by Adam: In other words, the K-5 II can be more or less seen as a stop-gap measure This suggests a stop-gap while we wait for FF, so no more advanced APS-C in near future... Which I am more interested in and if there is one thing that annoys me greatly is that Pentax releaes are rarely if ever available (exception K-5 but that was very dicey with all the stain issues) in time for Carnaval... I had some hopes but they are shattered. Oh well, maybe I could use the Samyang Tilt Shift..

09-12-2012, 01:31 PM	#20
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by janneman It was pulled because it was bad news.... He mentioned the K-5II as a stop gap for upcoming things.... then he suggests FF like thingies... To me that sounded like `we go forward on FF and will halt any high end APS-C dvelopment...` Considering that FF cameras cost twice as much as a top APS DSLR the above doesn't make much sense.

09-12-2012, 01:34 PM	#21
fikkser Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Borlänge, Sweden Posts: 373	I've got the post saved if anyone wants it. :-)

09-12-2012, 01:51 PM	#22
joakimfors Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lund, Sweden Posts: 237	Put it on ebay and see how much you'll get for it.

09-12-2012, 01:51 PM - 2 Likes	#23
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	I heard that even iphone 5 is FF.

09-12-2012, 02:05 PM	#24
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Here is what I think are the juicy bits of the post. Original title was "Don't lose hope in Pentax - the Full-Frame awaits us". Then it was stated "In other words, the K-5 II can be more or less seen as a stop-gap measure. I'm going to hang on to my K-5 I and wait patiently until next summer. To give Ricoh some credit, you can't exactly design, develop, and deploy a groundbreaking new body over the course of just 1 year"

09-12-2012, 02:10 PM	#25
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by zosxavius Did you say too much adam? =) What do you mean? Something along these lines: Quote: I've been told that the products announced a couple of days ago, as well as all the products announced so far this year by Pentax, have all been part of the Hoya product roadmap for Pentax, rather than Ricoh's doing. Ricoh's big plans for Pentax are supposedly secret and internal, and as such, rumors surrounding them will be minimal. "Big plans" means that there will be an FF and pro gear- the release date of the FF is not certain right now, but it is very likely that it will at least be mentioned at CP+ 2013. You guys are going to have to trust me that I didn't just make this up In other words, the K-5 II can be more or less seen as a stop-gap measure I'm going to hang on to my K-5 I and wait patiently until next summer. To give Ricoh some credit, you can't exactly design, develop, and deploy a groundbreaking new body over the course of just 1 year...

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09-12-2012, 02:59 PM	#26
Quicksand Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area) Posts: 1,519	Yeah, might have been something like that. Hm.

09-12-2012, 03:30 PM	#27
zosxavius Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Somewhere, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 458 Original Poster	Thanks for preserving that.

09-12-2012, 03:30 PM	#28
zosxavius Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Somewhere, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 458 Original Poster	I think adam knows a lot more than he is letting on......

09-12-2012, 03:36 PM - 1 Like	#29
DaveHolmes Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 1,501	Originally posted by zosxavius I think adam knows a lot more than he is letting on...... Well he is the first-born of God's children...

09-12-2012, 03:59 PM	#30
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by DaveHolmes Well he is the first-born of God's children... I don't mean to instigate, but I don't think the Adam you're talking about proved to be very smart.