Hands-On at Photokina and the Pentax Booth

Clavius · 09-18-2012, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by Dan

Let the naysayers say "nay". I say "good things come to those who wait."

Yes, they get made fun of on April 1st. And those who don't wait, they get what they want NOW.

RonHendriks1966 · 09-18-2012, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

The Leica does not use the Sony sensor.

New ?Leica M? Uses CMOSIS? 24-MP CMOS Image Sensor - CMOSIS

Thanks, could we buy that? Or would they make an APS-H sensor for me?

Kameraten · 09-18-2012, 07:57 AM

Let's hear about the K-5II:s AF now, since it's the only news in the major league. What was the hands-on experience?

Alizarine · 09-18-2012, 08:01 AM

I hope somebody brought a K5/c and did AF comparison tests there

illdefined · 09-18-2012, 08:01 AM

yeah and how much better is the LCD screen zzzzzzz... sorry dozed off there.

froeschle · 09-18-2012, 08:03 AM

Quote:

DC motor cannot handle heavy lenses

It depends on which lenses have to be moved. If patent A 2011-022280 applies, these would only be the two lenses on the left in the rear:
See https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/173969-pentax-560mm-59.html#post2096843 (scroll up one post for the actual full lens scheme).

Quote:

maybe I should cut the aperture lever from one of them and send it in an envelope to Pentax? With the text, of course formed by cut and glued newspaper letters, "The 50mm will be next..."

Reminds me of this: Fans Send FOX Plastic Dinosaurs To Get “Terra Nova” To Return

Quote:

Leica M......is this Sony?

See post #31 and CMOSIS/STM ("custom-designed")

Quote:

Thanks, could we buy that? Or would they make an APS-H sensor for me?

It is not mentioned under Standard Products (see above). However, you could contact them: Custom Products

Any news about the (non)existence of f2.8 AF cross sensors in the K5II? Sensor layout?

RonHendriks1966 · 09-18-2012, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by froeschle

It is not mentioned under Standard Products (see above). However, you could contact them: Custom Products

They are very close by. Maybe I can interest them in an interview.

falconeye · 09-18-2012, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Supernaut

Do we have any hands-on feedback regarding the new K-5s AF?

I said a little bit about Adam's and my conversation with Malcom in "my" thread too.

Wrt K-5II AF:

The K-5II at Photokina are sealed, we cannot do AF tests. Maybe, Adam manages to get another sample for a 1 by 1 comparison but I doubt that.

The technicians at Pentax Europe played a little bit with it and they shared this much with me: They have "the impression" (i.e. without being sure) that the AF locks more securely in dim light and that the low artificial light AF accuracy issue may be fixed.

But in order to really know, somebody has to do a proper test and I think Pentax Europe is as keen to see the results as we all are

the swede · 09-18-2012, 10:31 PM

Ill say it here to...

Very good coverage of Photokina and i know the majority of PF members highly appreciate your precense there! Thanks!

garyk · 09-18-2012, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

I said a little bit about Adam's and my conversation with Malcom in "my" thread too.

Wrt K-5II AF:

The K-5II at Photokina are sealed, we cannot do AF tests. Maybe, Adam manages to get another sample for a 1 by 1 comparison but I doubt that.

The technicians at Pentax Europe played a little bit with it and they shared this much with me: They have "the impression" (i.e. without being sure) that the AF locks more securely in dim light and that the low artificial light AF accuracy issue may be fixed.

But in order to really know, somebody has to do a proper test and I think Pentax Europe is as keen to see the results as we all are

+1 As I was new to DSLR's last time around, and being bitten by the AF. I will wait until it has been tested without a doubt this time before I pony up one dollar.

gorski · 09-18-2012, 11:38 PM

Did anybody of the Pentax representatives mentioned they will show updated roadmap. Roadmap could introduce more certainty what the future will bring and it would be easier to invest money in Pentax products.

KungPOW · 09-19-2012, 12:09 AM

We keep hearing:

"good things are coming" from Pentax.

Has anyone pointed out to Pentax that with the other camera companies, the "good things are here"?

TOUGEFC · 09-19-2012, 12:26 AM

Great coverage Adam

Supernaut · 09-19-2012, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

But in order to really know, somebody has to do a proper test and I think Pentax Europe is as keen to see the results as we all are

Thanks. Then I guess we won't have any more input during PK

ENicolas · 09-19-2012, 06:02 AM - **1 Like**

Please go buy a Nikon or Canon and STFU ALREADY!

It's 6 am here - I'm going to the beach to take some pictures with my K-5! Because I have no problem sticking with it for another year!

09-18-2012, 11:38 PM	#56
gorski Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 34	New roadmap? Did anybody of the Pentax representatives mentioned they will show updated roadmap. Roadmap could introduce more certainty what the future will bring and it would be easier to invest money in Pentax products.

09-19-2012, 06:02 AM - 1 Like	#60
ENicolas Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Northern California Posts: 137	To everyone whining about ff Please go buy a Nikon or Canon and *STFU ALREADY!* It's 6 am here - I'm going to the beach to take some pictures with my K-5! Because I have no problem sticking with it for another year!

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09-18-2012, 07:40 AM	#46
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Dan Let the naysayers say "nay". I say "good things come to those who wait." Yes, they get made fun of on April 1st. And those who don't wait, they get what they want NOW.

09-18-2012, 07:43 AM	#47
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by boriscleto The Leica does not use the Sony sensor. New ?Leica M? Uses CMOSIS? 24-MP CMOS Image Sensor - CMOSIS Thanks, could we buy that? Or would they make an APS-H sensor for me?

09-18-2012, 07:57 AM	#48
Kameraten Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 214	Let's hear about the K-5II:s AF now, since it's the only news in the major league. What was the hands-on experience?

09-18-2012, 08:01 AM	#49
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	I hope somebody brought a K5/c and did AF comparison tests there

09-18-2012, 08:01 AM	#50
illdefined Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 929	yeah and how much better is the LCD screen zzzzzzz... sorry dozed off there.

09-18-2012, 08:03 AM	#51
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552	Quote: DC motor cannot handle heavy lenses It depends on which lenses have to be moved. If patent A 2011-022280 applies, these would only be the two lenses on the left in the rear: See https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/173969-pentax-560mm-59.html#post2096843 (scroll up one post for the actual full lens scheme). Quote: maybe I should cut the aperture lever from one of them and send it in an envelope to Pentax? With the text, of course formed by cut and glued newspaper letters, "The 50mm will be next..." Reminds me of this: Fans Send FOX Plastic Dinosaurs To Get “Terra Nova” To Return Quote: Leica M......is this Sony? See post #31 and CMOSIS/STM ("custom-designed") Quote: Thanks, could we buy that? Or would they make an APS-H sensor for me? It is not mentioned under Standard Products (see above). However, you could contact them: Custom Products Any news about the (non)existence of f2.8 AF cross sensors in the K5II? Sensor layout?

09-18-2012, 10:33 AM	#52
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by froeschle It is not mentioned under Standard Products (see above). However, you could contact them: Custom Products They are very close by. Maybe I can interest them in an interview.

09-18-2012, 04:38 PM	#53
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by Supernaut Do we have any hands-on feedback regarding the new K-5s AF? I said a little bit about Adam's and my conversation with Malcom in "my" thread too. Wrt K-5II AF: The K-5II at Photokina are sealed, we cannot do AF tests. Maybe, Adam manages to get another sample for a 1 by 1 comparison but I doubt that. The technicians at Pentax Europe played a little bit with it and they shared this much with me: They have "the impression" (i.e. without being sure) that the AF locks more securely in dim light and that the low artificial light AF accuracy issue may be fixed. But in order to really know, somebody has to do a proper test and I think Pentax Europe is as keen to see the results as we all are

09-18-2012, 10:31 PM	#54
the swede Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,310	Ill say it here to... Very good coverage of Photokina and i know the majority of PF members highly appreciate your precense there! Thanks!

09-18-2012, 10:54 PM	#55
garyk Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 488	Originally posted by falconeye I said a little bit about Adam's and my conversation with Malcom in "my" thread too. Wrt K-5II AF: The K-5II at Photokina are sealed, we cannot do AF tests. Maybe, Adam manages to get another sample for a 1 by 1 comparison but I doubt that. The technicians at Pentax Europe played a little bit with it and they shared this much with me: They have "the impression" (i.e. without being sure) that the AF locks more securely in dim light and that the low artificial light AF accuracy issue may be fixed. But in order to really know, somebody has to do a proper test and I think Pentax Europe is as keen to see the results as we all are +1 As I was new to DSLR's last time around, and being bitten by the AF. I will wait until it has been tested without a doubt this time before I pony up one dollar.

09-19-2012, 12:09 AM	#57
KungPOW Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,699	We keep hearing: "good things are coming" from Pentax. Has anyone pointed out to Pentax that with the other camera companies, the "good things are here"?

09-19-2012, 12:26 AM	#58
TOUGEFC Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,561	Great coverage Adam

09-19-2012, 01:38 AM	#59
Supernaut Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Coast , Sweden Posts: 467	Originally posted by falconeye But in order to really know, somebody has to do a proper test and I think Pentax Europe is as keen to see the results as we all are Thanks. Then I guess we won't have any more input during PK