Originally posted by christinelandon $8,000+, y'think?
That would be disappointing unless they essentially drive an "all NEW!!" chassis under the old model designation. One would hope that a profit-oriented firm would use amortized components and tooling that are up to the job, and only spend for new engineering/production capability where it was really needed. Mercedes doesn't build an entirely new car, or new plant, very often, after all.
On the other hand, you might be right...the dollar is losing value pretty quickly nowadays. Maybe they'll at least keep backward compatibility with the "old" 645 glass, maybe?
I suspect that the original thinking was to bring the 645D out at, or just under, the price of a 1DS, i.e. circa $8000. However the D3 may cloud the pricing issue somewhat, but at 12MP it's hardly a landscape photographers dream camera. Maybe when Sony and/or Nikon launch a high MP FF body, that may determine the projected price point of a 645D, if they actually do decide to bring it to market.
On another tack completely, and thinking somewhat "outside of the box", if you scaled the K20D sensor up to a 36 x 24mm (FF) sensor with the same pixel size, you would actually get 32MP! This is slightly more than the Kodak (46 x 35mm) 31MP sensor that was planned for the final version of the 645D.
If such a sensor with similar noise to the K20D was acceptable, then this could be another path for Pentax (that's if Samsung would fabricate the small quantities required), the only issue would be whether the old Pentax FF film lenses would be good enough, which is debatable, and therefore exert pressure for a new range of D-FA lenses, but we do already have two, namely the 50 and 100 macros, not to mention the spattering of F* and FA* designs that are around, plus of course the FA Limiteds. The more mundane F and FA designs don't really cut it on the K10D let alone a FF high spec body. It may well be that the longer DA* lenses will be okay on FF, considering that Pentax have actually stated that the DA*200 has an identical optical design to the FA*200, but that we don't know.
Many many feel that I'm against FF from my various previous postings, but really I'm not. I'm against a half baked, low cost FF effort, brought out too early in Pentax's programme. I also feel a 645 based very large sensor camera is actually a better concept for Pentax considering it's strong professional heritage in that area up to and even into the digital era, they are still being used, I've seen pro photographers still using them for magazine work. Pentax's FF film offerings since the LX design of some 20+ years ago, have been mid range enthusiast bodies at best.
Going completely bananas, if you built a 645 (1.3 crop) CMOS sensor based upon the K20D design, then you would end up with a whopping 64MP! I suspect that may be more than necessary
, but it sure would mean that Pentax would win the megapixel race!
Anyway, that's enough of my ramblings! Back to reality - The new K20D promises to be an astounding enthusiast/pro level camera and I will certainly be getting one in the near future. I also hope that we shall see a higher spec APS-C body that will be nearer a D2x or 1D level of performance in terms of AF, frame rate and feature set within the next 12 - 18 months. I'm hoping that it will improve my birding and action photography, but I'm actually not so confident about that, my reaction times are much slower than my K10D!
Although I shot 645 film (with a Bronica) alongside 35mm a few years back, I doubt if I shall ever again venture into that segment, or even FF, as I cannot see either those being at, or around, $2000, but you never know!
A footnote, my rationale:
In the film era, you had 3 main components required to take photos, Lens, Body and Film.
I used to shoot around 50 to 80 rolls of 35mm film a year, if you calculate the cost including processing at around $15 - $20 per roll, that equates to $750 to $1600 per year. I upgraded/changed my film bodies on an average once every 5 years.
In this digital era, you have basically 2 main components to take photos, Lens and Body, film is now included with the body (and memory is dirt cheap).
If you upgrade/change the body every 18 months at a cost of $2000 (assuming no value for the old one), it is about the same cost as film, if the body is less, then you are on the winning side!
I regard a new body every 18 months as my film/processing cost. I usually spend less than $2000, so currently I'm winning!
My computer was already in place before I went digital and again is upgraded regularly (for my real job!), but I no longer need my light boxes, slide mounts, expensive scanner, projectors, etc., etc. My darkroom went many years ago! The cost of the software is small in comparison to the other consumables needed for film.
What's more, my photos are of a much higher technical quality, the artistic quality is debatable!
Once again, apologies for my rambling and the length of this post.