Lens road map updated.

wkraus · 03-01-2013, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by eurostar

I am waiting for the lenses in my dream roadmap below...

The DAlimited24/1,7 would be fine for me too. Generally speaking, there is a serious lack of fast wide angle primesIMO.

Sinister · 03-01-2013, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by wkraus

The DAlimited24/1,7 would be fine for me too. Generally speaking, there is a serious lack of fast wide angle primesIMO.

fully agree! A 24/1.4 would give us a 35/2 in 24x36 terms - a combination I love...

FullertonImages · 03-01-2013, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Sinister

fully agree! A 24/1.4 would give us a 35/2 in 24x36 terms - a combination I love...

Indeed. I think this is one of the biggest holes in the line up.

thibs · 03-02-2013, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by FullertonImages

Indeed. I think this is one of the biggest holes in the line up.

IF Pentax is indeed moving to FF, I expect Pentax to plug a couple holes in the APS range but not all and certainly not the most high end ones or difficult to get their money back on. This 24/1.7 lens would be a very big surprise. Don't wait for it.

memo90061 · 03-03-2013, 02:59 PM

Yes, I agree with 24/1.4! It's the reason why I was doubting moving to Pentax. It didn't have fast enough wide angle primes. The 14/2.8 is too expensive, and for that price would rather have the Sigma 10-20/4-5.6.

monkeygod · 03-03-2013, 03:58 PM

are any of the FA lenses WR, or are those only the DA* ? besides the revised 100mm macro that is?

**boriscleto** · 03-03-2013, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by monkeygod

are any of the FA lenses WR, or are those only the DA* ? besides the revised 100mm macro that is?

No FA lenses are WR other than the D FA 100mm Macro WR.

Alizarine · 03-03-2013, 10:43 PM

I second the request for a 24mm. Though personally I would rather like it more to be a DA*24 f1.8 or f2. Pentax needs a weathersealed wide prime. The shortest DA* is the 55 - nowehere near wide for landscape or WA enthusiasts, and all their UWAs - the 10-17 and 12-24, are both non-WR also.

If they're gunning for WR as a selling point for the brand they better seal up the wide end too

(and sadly the DA*16-50 falls short in performance compared to the DA15... which is even slower)

gazonk · 03-03-2013, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by Alizarine

Though personally I would rather like it more to be a DA*24 f1.8 or f2.

+1 - makes more sense, it could be made significantly more compact even if covering FF.

bvg · 03-04-2013, 08:45 AM

DA35/1.4 or I buy Samyang/Sigma 35/1.4!

Sinister · 03-04-2013, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by bvg

DA35/1.4 or I buy Samyang/Sigma 35/1.4!

Doesn't make sense at all!?

The FOV is much to narrow compared to a 24/1.X...

**Aristophanes** · 03-04-2013, 08:53 AM

24mm wants = this:

Nikon 24mm f/1.4

Big, big filter, $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Kind of silly for the DA series, but not FF. For APS-C the DA's 15mm and 21mm are perfect. Too fast and they get big an bulky and with WA the whole bokeh thing is less interesting and necessary.

People say they want wide and fast without really knowing what the major compromises are: very large, very expensive, lots of distortion, flare and hood issues (solved by the DA 15mm), etc.

If FF comes Pentax has a stellar but over-priced DA lens line-up. They should take the 15, 21, 35 Macro, 40, 50 (2.4) and 70mm, WR all of them and drop the production costs with plastic barrels and mounts, knocking 25% of list price. Same for a WR re-vamped 16-45, 18-55, 50-200, 55-300. 50-135 as well, and the 18-135 because, why not?

Keep a low-end K30ish entry-level, AA battery APS-C DSLR and we're done. Forget the whole Limited this for APS-C. Such a concept is price dead in the next 3-5 years.

Cambo · 03-04-2013, 09:36 AM

Hasn't been ANYTHING in that range for 25+ years...aside from zooms.

Cheers,
Cameron

Medium FormatPro · 03-04-2013, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

No FA lenses are WR other than the D FA 100mm Macro WR

Plus the Pentax macro line actually discourages a lot of people out there. Nothing quite like watching a Pentax camera and lens combo search for a few second under less than ideal lighting

deus ursus · 03-04-2013, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by Sinister

Doesn't make sense at all!?

The FOV is much to narrow compared to a 24/1.X...

But on aps-c a 35/1.4 would make a nice parallell to the 50/1.4 on FF, allthough it wouldn't give the exact same DOF, I guess. I miss a nice, fast, compact, normal prime for aps-c in the lens lineup.

03-04-2013, 08:53 AM	#162
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	24mm wants = this: Nikon 24mm f/1.4 Big, big filter, $$$$$$$$$$$$$ Kind of silly for the DA series, but not FF. For APS-C the DA's 15mm and 21mm are perfect. Too fast and they get big an bulky and with WA the whole bokeh thing is less interesting and necessary. People say they want wide and fast without really knowing what the major compromises are: very large, very expensive, lots of distortion, flare and hood issues (solved by the DA 15mm), etc. If FF comes Pentax has a stellar but over-priced DA lens line-up. They should take the 15, 21, 35 Macro, 40, 50 (2.4) and 70mm, WR all of them and drop the production costs with plastic barrels and mounts, knocking 25% of list price. Same for a WR re-vamped 16-45, 18-55, 50-200, 55-300. 50-135 as well, and the 18-135 because, why not? Keep a low-end K30ish entry-level, AA battery APS-C DSLR and we're done. Forget the whole Limited this for APS-C. Such a concept is price dead in the next 3-5 years. Last edited by Aristophanes; 03-04-2013 at 12:06 PM.

03-04-2013, 09:36 AM	#163
Cambo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,016	a 135... Hasn't been ANYTHING in that range for 25+ years...aside from zooms. Cheers, Cameron

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03-01-2013, 02:49 PM	#151
wkraus Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Near Vienna, Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,067	Originally posted by eurostar I am waiting for the lenses in my dream roadmap below... The DAlimited24/1,7 would be fine for me too. Generally speaking, there is a serious lack of fast wide angle primesIMO.

03-01-2013, 03:12 PM	#152
Sinister Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,045	Originally posted by wkraus The DAlimited24/1,7 would be fine for me too. Generally speaking, there is a serious lack of fast wide angle primesIMO. fully agree! A 24/1.4 would give us a 35/2 in 24x36 terms - a combination I love...

03-01-2013, 03:45 PM	#153
FullertonImages Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 883	Originally posted by Sinister fully agree! A 24/1.4 would give us a 35/2 in 24x36 terms - a combination I love... Indeed. I think this is one of the biggest holes in the line up.

03-02-2013, 07:20 AM	#154
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by FullertonImages Indeed. I think this is one of the biggest holes in the line up. IF Pentax is indeed moving to FF, I expect Pentax to plug a couple holes in the APS range but not all and certainly not the most high end ones or difficult to get their money back on. This 24/1.7 lens would be a very big surprise. Don't wait for it.

03-03-2013, 02:59 PM	#155
memo90061 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 218	Yes, I agree with 24/1.4! It's the reason why I was doubting moving to Pentax. It didn't have fast enough wide angle primes. The 14/2.8 is too expensive, and for that price would rather have the Sigma 10-20/4-5.6.

03-03-2013, 03:58 PM	#156
monkeygod New Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 3	are any of the FA lenses WR, or are those only the DA* ? besides the revised 100mm macro that is?

03-03-2013, 05:05 PM	#157
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by monkeygod are any of the FA lenses WR, or are those only the DA* ? besides the revised 100mm macro that is? No FA lenses are WR other than the D FA 100mm Macro WR.

03-03-2013, 10:43 PM	#158
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	I second the request for a 24mm. Though personally I would rather like it more to be a DA24 f1.8 or f2. Pentax needs a weathersealed wide prime. The shortest DA is the 55 - nowehere near wide for landscape or WA enthusiasts, and all their UWAs - the 10-17 and 12-24, are both non-WR also. If they're gunning for WR as a selling point for the brand they better seal up the wide end too (and sadly the DA*16-50 falls short in performance compared to the DA15... which is even slower)

03-03-2013, 11:27 PM	#159
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Alizarine Though personally I would rather like it more to be a DA*24 f1.8 or f2. +1 - makes more sense, it could be made significantly more compact even if covering FF.

03-04-2013, 08:45 AM	#160
bvg Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 340	DA35/1.4 or I buy Samyang/Sigma 35/1.4!

03-04-2013, 08:52 AM	#161
Sinister Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,045	Originally posted by bvg DA35/1.4 or I buy Samyang/Sigma 35/1.4! Doesn't make sense at all!? The FOV is much to narrow compared to a 24/1.X...

03-04-2013, 12:07 PM	#164
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Originally posted by boriscleto No FA lenses are WR other than the D FA 100mm Macro WR Plus the Pentax macro line actually discourages a lot of people out there. Nothing quite like watching a Pentax camera and lens combo search for a few second under less than ideal lighting

03-04-2013, 03:48 PM	#165
deus ursus Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Stårheim, Norway Posts: 659	Originally posted by Sinister Doesn't make sense at all!? The FOV is much to narrow compared to a 24/1.X... But on aps-c a 35/1.4 would make a nice parallell to the 50/1.4 on FF, allthough it wouldn't give the exact same DOF, I guess. I miss a nice, fast, compact, normal prime for aps-c in the lens lineup.