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10-16-2012, 04:01 AM   #196
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QuoteOriginally posted by beholder3 Quote
From what I read from the forums in 90% of cases the issue is behind the camera, in 9% it's a specific defect of that one piece of equipment and only in the remaining 1% it's a engineered limitation without workarounds.
47.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot (including this one ).

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a little patience guys, the reviewers probably have prod units in their hands by now, or at least within the week. Who knows, maybe Adam is unboxing one at the moment (or at least tomorrow)
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QuoteOriginally posted by timcatn Quote
What about Europe?

My understanding is that launch in US is today? Or at least just around the corner.
This is for Europe from my friend a month ago.

The PENTAX K5 II and K5 IIs (without low-pass filter) will be available from October 2012.
The PENTAX Q10 will be available from October 2012.
The lens Q06 15-45mm will be available from October 2012.
The Q adapter for K-mount lens will be available from October 2012.
The lens smc DA 18-270mm F/3.5-6.3 ED SDM will be available from the end of November 2012.
The lens HD DA 560MM F/5.6 ED AW will be available from December 2012.
The lens HD D-FA 645 90MM F/2.8 ED AW SR will be available from November 2012.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kenn100D Quote
This is for Europe from my friend a month ago.

The PENTAX K5 II and K5 IIs (without low-pass filter) will be available from October 2012.
The PENTAX Q10 will be available from October 2012.
The lens Q06 15-45mm will be available from October 2012.
The Q adapter for K-mount lens will be available from October 2012.
The lens smc DA 18-270mm F/3.5-6.3 ED SDM will be available from the end of November 2012.
The lens HD DA 560MM F/5.6 ED AW will be available from December 2012.
The lens HD D-FA 645 90MM F/2.8 ED AW SR will be available from November 2012.
Bonjour,

My local FRENCH B&M photo shop is taking K-5 II pre-orders now in-store and also it's posted on their separate website, since a week or more ... J

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I had an email from a local distributor in Slovenia that they expect the K5II and IIs bodies in early November
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As far as AF goes I hope it goes from very last in the DSLR market to next to last anyway.
Going next to last would be a quantum leap.
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Well I've read some confusing information regarding the new AF sensors in one of the threads here on PF. Basically it says that the new AF system is better for faster lenses (< f4), while it might be worse for slower apertures...
Anyone knows anything about it?
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QuoteOriginally posted by BeerBelly Quote
Well I've read some confusing information regarding the new AF sensors in one of the threads here on PF. Basically it says that the new AF system is better for faster lenses (< f4), while it might be worse for slower apertures...
Anyone knows anything about it?
That wasn't "information".
It was speculation by one forum member.

Even if it is true that the centre cross point sensor comprises one f/2.8 line and one f/5.6 line (this is speculation, nothing is known) then this does not necessarily imply that in practice having only one line available for slower lenses (probably >f/4 wide open) will result in worse AF. Canon had these mixed sensitivity sensors in many models and apparently this approach works very well.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
That wasn't "information".
It was speculation by one forum member.
Indeed.

And based on such [mis]information, before it has even been shipped, before anyone has had a chance to use a production model of the camera, people are judging the camera, and already writing it off.

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As to all this speculation, as the old proverb says, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating!" Let us just wait and see how the new models REALLY perform hands on.
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A K5II versus K5IIs studio test shot has been posted on dpreview - see here

Studio Test Shot...K5-IIs!: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

It's not official though I wouldn't be surprised if the poster had close connections with Pentax because he posted in a similar way to showcase the K-01's IQ earlier this year.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
Indeed.

And based on such [mis]information, before it has even been shipped, before anyone has had a chance to use a production model of the camera, people are judging the camera, and already writing it off.

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Well I wasn't sure what to think of it which is why I asked. It did seem weird to me Pentax would knowingly worsen the AF at smaller apertures.
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It's not official though I wouldn't be surprised if the poster had close connections with Pentax because he posted in a similar way to showcase the K-01's IQ earlier this year.
If those are real, then those connections are like really close. AFAIK none of us in Manila who got to take home our RAW (at least PEF) samples from the K-5 IIs could convert them to jpeg. fine samples, look at all that detail!
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This looks great!


QuoteOriginally posted by mecrox Quote
A K5II versus K5IIs studio test shot has been posted on dpreview - see here

Studio Test Shot...K5-IIs!: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

It's not official though I wouldn't be surprised if the poster had close connections with Pentax because he posted in a similar way to showcase the K-01's IQ earlier this year.
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I've gotten Moire patterns before with K5, so it's definatly possible without the filter, how much more is more the concern. I have a feeling it won't be much more.
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