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10-19-2012, 12:06 PM   #226
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From RiceHigh: PENTAX K-5IIs 1st. review ? ?? ??? ???? ????? - ??????

The samples look quite sharp, especially those taken with the FA77 and the brick building shot with the DA14.

On a plus note I noticed very few signs of moiré, the only notable being on the guardrails of the hotel's balconies on the FA77 sample shots.

What concerns me however is how the shadows look, full of noise and false colors even at ISO 80.

I hope that on production cameras and a proper RAW development software such as Camera Raw or DxO they won't look like that !

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I saw this on a Japanese web, dont know if posted before: K-5?s?AF???FA limited?????????? vs K-5?
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In the first picture, the whole side of the building on the right has moire. Not enough to turn me off from getting one, but I'd still like to see a wide variety of real world shots before I make the final decision.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RBellavance Quote
I think the f/11 aperture has something to do with it. I expect to see moire in shot using wider apertures.
The aperture does have alot to do with the moire. I think the small aperture will increase the frequency but I don't know why.

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QuoteOriginally posted by yjcs Quote
The aperture does have alot to do with the moire. I think the small aperture will increase the frequency but I don't know why.
The test shots of buildings with the 77 limited are at f5.0; this is an aperture where there is higher occurence of moiré, cause lens resolution is maximum; at f11 diffarction occurs that blurs the image and reduce moiré effect; in fact if there is risk of moiré shooting at f11 should be enough to remove it, the diffarction operates as an AA filter.
The software is silkypix; this may be explain the slight noise in the shadow ?
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Just checking but can't see it linked here yet. Image Resource has K-5II & K-5IIs available on their comparison page
Imaging Resource "Comparometer"
Looks to be an expensive difference.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Col Quote
Just checking but can't see it linked here yet. Image Resource has K-5II & K-5IIs available on their comparison page
Imaging Resource "Comparometer"
Looks to be an expensive difference.
Expensive How?
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In the FWIW category, I've been shooting the Fuji X100 for about six months - no AA filter, has the sensor & algorithms that compensate (and are in use on the K5ii). I have never seen moire in a single photo yet. They've done a fantastic job with randomizing the sensor layout and crunching the numbers. If the Fuji system is any indicator, it's all good
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QuoteOriginally posted by Corto-PA Quote
Expensive How?
I think he thinks the difference is too small for the $100 price increase if you buy the K-IIS. An FF at $600 more is not an expensive difference I guess...
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QuoteOriginally posted by wahid_satu Quote
I think he thinks the difference is too small for the $100 price increase if you buy the K-IIS. An FF at $600 more is not an expensive difference I guess...

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ecaterin Quote
In the FWIW category, I've been shooting the Fuji X100 for about six months - no AA filter, has the sensor & algorithms that compensate (and are in use on the K5ii). I have never seen moire in a single photo yet. They've done a fantastic job with randomizing the sensor layout and crunching the numbers. If the Fuji system is any indicator, it's all good
My understanding is the X100 is using a different fuji layout vs the K-5 which is using a traditional bayer layout.
Can someone correct me?
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QuoteOriginally posted by 7samurai Quote
My understanding is the X100 is using a different fuji layout vs the K-5 which is using a traditional bayer layout.
Can someone correct me?
No AFAIK, the X100 has a traditional Bayer type sensor.
X-PRO 1 though has a different one (which is still not supported by LR btw afaict)
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QuoteOriginally posted by 7samurai Quote
My understanding is the X100 is using a different fuji layout vs the K-5 which is using a traditional bayer layout.
Can someone correct me?
Unfortunately in Europe K5IIs is 200 euros moreexpensive than the ordinary K5II; or 260 $
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