K5IIs sample?

normhead · 10-26-2012, 04:46 PM - **1 Like**

Quote:

Pentax is a great brand, but they have their faults like any other. AF has been one of them, even if it is blown out of proportion from time to time.

From PentaxForums.com: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/200128-k5iis-sample-20.html#ixzz2AS3oR1vj

I feel like the guy who walked to school for over two miles, in snow storms up hill both ways. I thought my Spotmatic was great because you didn't need your hand held light meter. People whining because they can't nail a focus is just beyond me. It's the camera's fault. The camera tricked me into thinking it knew what it was doing.

If you know your camera, you won't get fooled.

I can see blowing a few shots because of auto-focus. If you continue to do so second time out, that's on you. Put a manual focus lens on it and focus yourself. Man up for god's sake.

Keiner · 10-26-2012, 05:11 PM

Wise words.
That's why I kept my MX as a hero of that time in my collection.
All who are unable to focus manually should be beamed back 40 years to learn it

halfspin · 10-26-2012, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by normhead

I feel like the guy who walked to school for over two miles, in snow storms up hill both ways. I thought my Spotmatic was great because you didn't need your hand held light meter. People whining because they can't nail a focus is just beyond me. It's the camera's fault. The camera tricked me into thinking it knew what it was doing.

If you know your camera, you won't get fooled.

I can see blowing a few shots because of auto-focus. If you continue to do so second time out, that's on you. Put a manual focus lens on it and focus yourself. Man up for god's sake.

I remember when my cell phone was connected to a giant cable that shot into the telephone pole and you had to talk like you were from the 1940s. People who are upset by their phones not making good enough coffee need to pony up and realize older technology is cooler especially when you have to waste lots of time cuz it impresses the chicks. Oh wait that wasn't me that was some tool from the past.

rawr · 10-26-2012, 08:07 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

When I walk away from this site , which I often do... I can go to other photography sites and never see an anti-pentax post.

This site is starting to depress me too. The more time I spend here, the more I am made to feel bad about the cameras I use, even though (by some miracle, you would think) my camera AF and everything else seems to work fine, and I can still get some great shots.

garyk · 10-26-2012, 10:56 PM

LOL, this is amazing. I feel like I am in a revolving time warp.

rawr · 10-27-2012, 05:09 AM

A revolving time warp doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. Might give me a chance to re-live some fond memories and good experiences. Where do I sign up

garyk · 10-27-2012, 07:05 AM

www.timothy leary dot com

**Rondec** · 10-27-2012, 07:33 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by rawr

This site is starting to depress me too. The more time I spend here, the more I am made to feel bad about the cameras I use, even though (by some miracle, you would think) my camera AF and everything else seems to work fine, and I can still get some great shots.

That is truly an odd thing to me. To listen to K5 detractors (and there are many), you should hardly be able to take a decent photo with the camera. Yet, I look at a thread like https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5/123731-no-more-tests-just-pictures.html and I see some excellent photos that most photographers would be completely satisfied with. The K5 really is a good camera and the improvements that come with K5 II/IIs seem to cover a lot of the major issues.

Honestly, the biggest issues when it comes to Pentax and focus, appear to come more from the slow speed of the SDM lenses, which won't be rectified by a change in camera body at all.

falconeye · 10-27-2012, 04:25 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by JinDesu

Hope no one minds me uploading these

The photos you uploaded have been provided by Keiner who got permission by Evil Homer of digitalfotonetz.de forum. Evil Homer owns the copyright.

If you upload his photos, then please at least pay proper credit to him. We are all photographers and I just don't understand how we can expect anybody to respect photographer IP if we ourself don't respect it ...

Keiner · 10-27-2012, 04:45 PM

There is no problem in this case.
Evil Homer wished us much fun

Alizarine · 10-27-2012, 04:49 PM

Just discovered how poor my K-x's AF performs when I'm using apertures faster than f3.2.. really off, like I focus on the eye, the focus shows up at the back of the head.

)

so I learned to adjust by focusing somewhere beyond the person (sometimes even using the floor in front of the person I'm shooting....) to get the job done right. I do sometimes get weird looks from people because of that though.. lol

and much thanks to Evil Homer

JinDesu · 10-27-2012, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by falconeye

The photos you uploaded have been provided by Keiner who got permission by Evil Homer of digitalfotonetz.de forum. Evil Homer owns the copyright.

If you upload his photos, then please at least pay proper credit to him. We are all photographers and I just don't understand how we can expect anybody to respect photographer IP if we ourself don't respect it ...

Understood and I will do so. Feel bad that I didn't think to do so.

**7samurai** · 10-27-2012, 06:05 PM

I wish they would come out with SDM II to address the lens portion of the slowness. Or even go all DC.

rawr · 10-27-2012, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by 7samurai

I wish they would come out with SDM II to address the lens portion of the slowness. Or even go all DC.

Be careful what you wish for

- they might just do that.

Screw drive may be slower than SDM/DC (depending on the lens), but at least it is very reliable, and relies on fewer electronic parts that may not age very well. And it plays nice with teleconvertors too.

Kunzite · 10-28-2012, 01:39 AM

IMO SDM II is mandatory, if they want to compete (and they want) - they need fast, silent AF in their "pro" lenses, and of course reliability on par with the competition.

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10-26-2012, 04:46 PM - 1 Like	#301
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Quote: Pentax is a great brand, but they have their faults like any other. AF has been one of them, even if it is blown out of proportion from time to time. From PentaxForums.com: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/200128-k5iis-sample-20.html#ixzz2AS3oR1vj I feel like the guy who walked to school for over two miles, in snow storms up hill both ways. I thought my Spotmatic was great because you didn't need your hand held light meter. People whining because they can't nail a focus is just beyond me. It's the camera's fault. The camera tricked me into thinking it knew what it was doing. If you know your camera, you won't get fooled. I can see blowing a few shots because of auto-focus. If you continue to do so second time out, that's on you. Put a manual focus lens on it and focus yourself. Man up for god's sake.

10-26-2012, 05:11 PM	#302
Keiner Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Hamburg Photos: Gallery Posts: 286	Wise words. That's why I kept my MX as a hero of that time in my collection. All who are unable to focus manually should be beamed back 40 years to learn it

10-26-2012, 05:41 PM	#303
halfspin Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 258	Originally posted by normhead I feel like the guy who walked to school for over two miles, in snow storms up hill both ways. I thought my Spotmatic was great because you didn't need your hand held light meter. People whining because they can't nail a focus is just beyond me. It's the camera's fault. The camera tricked me into thinking it knew what it was doing. If you know your camera, you won't get fooled. I can see blowing a few shots because of auto-focus. If you continue to do so second time out, that's on you. Put a manual focus lens on it and focus yourself. Man up for god's sake. I remember when my cell phone was connected to a giant cable that shot into the telephone pole and you had to talk like you were from the 1940s. People who are upset by their phones not making good enough coffee need to pony up and realize older technology is cooler especially when you have to waste lots of time cuz it impresses the chicks. Oh wait that wasn't me that was some tool from the past.

10-26-2012, 08:07 PM - 1 Like	#304
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by normhead When I walk away from this site , which I often do... I can go to other photography sites and never see an anti-pentax post. This site is starting to depress me too. The more time I spend here, the more I am made to feel bad about the cameras I use, even though (by some miracle, you would think) my camera AF and everything else seems to work fine, and I can still get some great shots.

10-26-2012, 10:56 PM	#305
garyk Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 488	LOL, this is amazing. I feel like I am in a revolving time warp.

10-27-2012, 05:09 AM	#306
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	A revolving time warp doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. Might give me a chance to re-live some fond memories and good experiences. Where do I sign up

10-27-2012, 07:05 AM	#307
garyk Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 488	www.timothy leary dot com

10-27-2012, 07:33 AM - 1 Like	#308
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by rawr This site is starting to depress me too. The more time I spend here, the more I am made to feel bad about the cameras I use, even though (by some miracle, you would think) my camera AF and everything else seems to work fine, and I can still get some great shots. That is truly an odd thing to me. To listen to K5 detractors (and there are many), you should hardly be able to take a decent photo with the camera. Yet, I look at a thread like https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5/123731-no-more-tests-just-pictures.html and I see some excellent photos that most photographers would be completely satisfied with. The K5 really is a good camera and the improvements that come with K5 II/IIs seem to cover a lot of the major issues. Honestly, the biggest issues when it comes to Pentax and focus, appear to come more from the slow speed of the SDM lenses, which won't be rectified by a change in camera body at all.

10-27-2012, 04:25 PM - 1 Like	#309
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by JinDesu Hope no one minds me uploading these The photos you uploaded have been provided by Keiner who got permission by Evil Homer of digitalfotonetz.de forum. Evil Homer owns the copyright. If you upload his photos, then please at least pay proper credit to him. We are all photographers and I just don't understand how we can expect anybody to respect photographer IP if we ourself don't respect it ...

10-27-2012, 04:45 PM	#310
Keiner Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Hamburg Photos: Gallery Posts: 286	There is no problem in this case. Evil Homer wished us much fun

10-27-2012, 04:49 PM	#311
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	Just discovered how poor my K-x's AF performs when I'm using apertures faster than f3.2.. really off, like I focus on the eye, the focus shows up at the back of the head. ) so I learned to adjust by focusing somewhere beyond the person (sometimes even using the floor in front of the person I'm shooting....) to get the job done right. I do sometimes get weird looks from people because of that though.. lol and much thanks to Evil Homer

10-27-2012, 04:54 PM	#312
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by falconeye The photos you uploaded have been provided by Keiner who got permission by Evil Homer of digitalfotonetz.de forum. Evil Homer owns the copyright. If you upload his photos, then please at least pay proper credit to him. We are all photographers and I just don't understand how we can expect anybody to respect photographer IP if we ourself don't respect it ... Understood and I will do so. Feel bad that I didn't think to do so.

10-27-2012, 06:05 PM	#313
7samurai Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 474	I wish they would come out with SDM II to address the lens portion of the slowness. Or even go all DC.

10-27-2012, 06:12 PM	#314
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by 7samurai I wish they would come out with SDM II to address the lens portion of the slowness. Or even go all DC. Be careful what you wish for - they might just do that. Screw drive may be slower than SDM/DC (depending on the lens), but at least it is very reliable, and relies on fewer electronic parts that may not age very well. And it plays nice with teleconvertors too.

10-28-2012, 01:39 AM	#315
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	IMO SDM II is mandatory, if they want to compete (and they want) - they need fast, silent AF in their "pro" lenses, and of course reliability on par with the competition.