New Ricoh camera in 2013

ogl · 12-26-2012, 08:28 AM

G700SE / Digital Cameras | Ricoh Global
G700SE / Digital Cameras | Ricoh Global

I'd like to see full waterproof, dust resistance and shock resistance version of G700 with APS-C sensor and fixed lens or super-compact wide-angel zoom (~28-40 mm in 35 mm equiv.).
Coated in polymer material.
With different power supply - 2AA accumulators and LiOn battery.

+ tiny full waterproof battery-grip for AA.

Dear Ricoh, use such idea for free...

Last edited by ogl; 12-26-2012 at 08:42 AM.

JPT · 12-26-2012, 09:28 AM

Another possibility is that they might move into the consumer printer market. They certainly have the technology and they demonstrated a photo printer at Photokina.

mecrox · 12-26-2012, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by JPT

Ricoh is good at advanced compacts and Pentax is not, unless you consider the Q.Pentac is good at ILCs and Ricoh is not. That's why the merger made sense. Ricoh will likely release more compacts and leave the ILCs to Pentax. Here are some possibilities.

A GR Digital with a larger sensor
A revival of the GX series of zoom compacts (built-in EVF? That would be nice.)
A monochrome camera (there have been some hints about this, but a long time ago)
Continuation of the CX series of travel cameras

I don't know what they are going to with the GXR, but shops in Japan were further discounting the body and most units just before Christmas. Either they're going to renew it or not pursue it any further.

Whatever Ricoh does, it will probably be photographer friendly and well made. What they could learn from Pentax is how to make their sensors perform better at high ISO.

Ricoh at one time had a few cult cameras for street photographers, I believe. Daido Moriyama used a GX200 (among different brands). I too wonder if a new GX X00 series cam, a cracking good and very solidly made high-end compact with a 1" sensor, might be a possibility. And that way, Pentax Ricoh can get something into position for when the Q series starts to run out of steam (due, imho, to its small sensor) - I don't think lack of interchangeable lenses is much of a drawback for a compact, especially if there is a sharp 24-70 or 24-105ish lens on it.

Kunzite · 12-26-2012, 11:12 AM

The presence of the printer was to demonstrate the capabilities of the 645D, and not the Ricoh printer products. I'm not sure they would enter the consumer printer market... which they could do by either extending their partnership with Epson, to "lower end" printers like 4900, 3880, R3000 or - unlikely - by cutting ties with Epson and start competing with them instead.

**LaurenOE** · 12-26-2012, 12:26 PM

Well, as the new owner of both a Q and K-01, I find myself *open* to the idea of something different, which is a departure from my previously inflexible attitude toward Ricoh and their cameras. I will be eager to see if they will make something that will fit into my current Pentax lineup - like I've learned from the Q and K-01.

ihasa · 12-26-2012, 04:52 PM

Who knows what will happen. Who would ever have thought Fuji would have shaken things up in the 'enthusiast' end of the market, before they brought out the X100?

Na Horuk · 12-26-2012, 05:20 PM

Maybe it will be the first ever APS-C camera with an integrated printer?

**7samurai** · 12-26-2012, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by Na Horuk

Maybe it will be the first ever APS-C camera with an integrated printer?

that sounds like a polaroid...

**Fontan** · 12-26-2012, 09:33 PM

I plan to purchase their upcoming monochrom digital camera.

**Clinton** · 12-26-2012, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Fontan

I plan to purchase their upcoming monochrom digital camera.

Does it do old school CRT monitor green?

thibs · 12-27-2012, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by Clinton

Does it do old school CRT monitor green?

No, only orange version, sorry.

eurostar · 12-27-2012, 03:46 AM

An APS-C sensor, full submergible (for scuba diving), fixed short zoom camera would be welcomed by the market. A 16-35/2,8 zoom, with a fish eye add on, would be enough for most of the users.

ogl · 12-27-2012, 04:06 AM

Originally posted by mecrox

Ricoh at one time had a few cult cameras for street photographers, I believe. Daido Moriyama used a GX200 (among different brands). I too wonder if a new GX X00 series cam, a cracking good and very solidly made high-end compact with a 1" sensor, might be a possibility.

If they produce such camera even with 1" sensor and with RAW - I think it could be the bomb too. But double bomb with APS-C or 4/3 sensor.

creampuff · 12-27-2012, 08:31 AM

Well word I got was that when Ricoh took control of Pentax, the first thing management did was lay off people in the camera division. Which wouldn't really surprise me given that for the most part, Ricoh has never really managed to break into the mainstream camera market. The GXR and GR series of cameras are unique but for the average person, the brand and cameras are easy to overlook and don't capture much mindshare. Buying Pentax allows them to jumpstart their big camera ambitions and tap on the technical expertise from Pentax. A sure way to quicken the rollout of newer models and avoid the fate of other Japanese camera firms that disappeared into the history books.

**Fontan** · 12-27-2012, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by Clinton

Does it do old school CRT monitor green?

If it doesn't I am going to throw a serious fit!

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12-26-2012, 08:28 AM	#16
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	G700SE / Digital Cameras \| Ricoh Global G700SE / Digital Cameras \| Ricoh Global I'd like to see full waterproof, dust resistance and shock resistance version of G700 with APS-C sensor and fixed lens or super-compact wide-angel zoom (~28-40 mm in 35 mm equiv.). Coated in polymer material. With different power supply - 2AA accumulators and LiOn battery. + tiny full waterproof battery-grip for AA. Dear Ricoh, use such idea for free... Last edited by ogl; 12-26-2012 at 08:42 AM.

12-26-2012, 09:28 AM	#17
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	Another possibility is that they might move into the consumer printer market. They certainly have the technology and they demonstrated a photo printer at Photokina.

12-26-2012, 11:07 AM	#18
mecrox Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxford, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,375	Originally posted by JPT Ricoh is good at advanced compacts and Pentax is not, unless you consider the Q.Pentac is good at ILCs and Ricoh is not. That's why the merger made sense. Ricoh will likely release more compacts and leave the ILCs to Pentax. Here are some possibilities. A GR Digital with a larger sensor A revival of the GX series of zoom compacts (built-in EVF? That would be nice.) A monochrome camera (there have been some hints about this, but a long time ago) Continuation of the CX series of travel cameras I don't know what they are going to with the GXR, but shops in Japan were further discounting the body and most units just before Christmas. Either they're going to renew it or not pursue it any further. Whatever Ricoh does, it will probably be photographer friendly and well made. What they could learn from Pentax is how to make their sensors perform better at high ISO. Ricoh at one time had a few cult cameras for street photographers, I believe. Daido Moriyama used a GX200 (among different brands). I too wonder if a new GX X00 series cam, a cracking good and very solidly made high-end compact with a 1" sensor, might be a possibility. And that way, Pentax Ricoh can get something into position for when the Q series starts to run out of steam (due, imho, to its small sensor) - I don't think lack of interchangeable lenses is much of a drawback for a compact, especially if there is a sharp 24-70 or 24-105ish lens on it.

12-26-2012, 11:12 AM	#19
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The presence of the printer was to demonstrate the capabilities of the 645D, and not the Ricoh printer products. I'm not sure they would enter the consumer printer market... which they could do by either extending their partnership with Epson, to "lower end" printers like 4900, 3880, R3000 or - unlikely - by cutting ties with Epson and start competing with them instead.

12-26-2012, 12:26 PM	#20
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	Well, as the new owner of both a Q and K-01, I find myself open to the idea of something different, which is a departure from my previously inflexible attitude toward Ricoh and their cameras. I will be eager to see if they will make something that will fit into my current Pentax lineup - like I've learned from the Q and K-01.

12-26-2012, 04:52 PM	#21
ihasa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Midlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,066	Who knows what will happen. Who would ever have thought Fuji would have shaken things up in the 'enthusiast' end of the market, before they brought out the X100?

12-26-2012, 05:20 PM	#22
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Maybe it will be the first ever APS-C camera with an integrated printer?

12-26-2012, 08:38 PM	#23
7samurai Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 474	Originally posted by Na Horuk Maybe it will be the first ever APS-C camera with an integrated printer? that sounds like a polaroid...

12-26-2012, 09:33 PM	#24
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	I plan to purchase their upcoming monochrom digital camera.

12-26-2012, 11:10 PM	#25
Clinton Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,910	Originally posted by Fontan I plan to purchase their upcoming monochrom digital camera. Does it do old school CRT monitor green?

12-27-2012, 01:49 AM	#26
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Clinton Does it do old school CRT monitor green? No, only orange version, sorry.

12-27-2012, 03:46 AM	#27
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	An APS-C sensor, full submergible (for scuba diving), fixed short zoom camera would be welcomed by the market. A 16-35/2,8 zoom, with a fish eye add on, would be enough for most of the users.

12-27-2012, 04:06 AM	#28
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Originally posted by mecrox Ricoh at one time had a few cult cameras for street photographers, I believe. Daido Moriyama used a GX200 (among different brands). I too wonder if a new GX X00 series cam, a cracking good and very solidly made high-end compact with a 1" sensor, might be a possibility. If they produce such camera even with 1" sensor and with RAW - I think it could be the bomb too. But double bomb with APS-C or 4/3 sensor.

12-27-2012, 08:31 AM	#29
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Well word I got was that when Ricoh took control of Pentax, the first thing management did was lay off people in the camera division. Which wouldn't really surprise me given that for the most part, Ricoh has never really managed to break into the mainstream camera market. The GXR and GR series of cameras are unique but for the average person, the brand and cameras are easy to overlook and don't capture much mindshare. Buying Pentax allows them to jumpstart their big camera ambitions and tap on the technical expertise from Pentax. A sure way to quicken the rollout of newer models and avoid the fate of other Japanese camera firms that disappeared into the history books.

12-27-2012, 09:14 AM	#30
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Originally posted by Clinton Does it do old school CRT monitor green? If it doesn't I am going to throw a serious fit!