PMA@CES & CP+ coming up...

ogl · 01-31-2013, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by Ash

Investigating, developing...
They wouldn't release a date if it is not even developed yet...
Oh, and I forgot that the WG-3 was also announced.
The WG-3, Q10 and MX-1 are all very cool products.

But it's not my style at all...

soalle · 02-01-2013, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by ogl

But it's not my style at all...

I was hoping at least that they would have given more details about the lens in development... I am sooooooooo interested into the 16-85!!!!

**Ash** · 02-01-2013, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by ogl

But it's not my style at all...

Neither are they mine. But they are both cool and very sellable cameras.
Of course a big proportion of us here on the forum are waiting for something more significant to be announced, but the smaller items have a bigger market, and the bigger items take longer to develop and perfect.

**jeffshaddix** · 02-01-2013, 08:04 AM

Oh well, we still have Adam's interview to look forward to.

thibs · 02-03-2013, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

Well I suppose that's where I need to go then. I sent the last rolls of K-64 there and I was delighted.

And I'm really a dilletante; I won't be developing or printing at home. I hate Photoshop too.

I enjoy the taking part of photography just not the making part.

I understand that quite well.
But if one day you can't find a proper lab anymore, all is not loss.
Darkroom takes space, indeed. But developing film does not require space, at all.
You only get half the job done though.
And I hate PS too

froeschle · 02-04-2013, 10:54 AM

Pentax CP+ 2013 Booth Tour - DigitalCamerainfo.com

Quote:

[...] I took the 560mm lens for a spin and found it to be superbly sharp when stopped down to f/8 [...] Some of the biggest traffic jams at CP+ happen because of booth babe rubbernecking, and the Pentax booth was no exception. [...]

ogl · 02-04-2013, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by froeschle

Pentax CP+ 2013 Booth Tour - DigitalCamerainfo.com

7000USD lens is not sharp wide-opened...???

**monochrome** · 02-04-2013, 11:25 AM

"The Pentax booth didn’t exactly set itself apart from the herd (except perhaps in terms of intelligent layout), but it’s hard to visit it and not come away with a sense of optimism for the company. Pentax has been accused of a lack of direction in the recent past, and noodling about with oddities like the K-01 and Q haven’t done much to endear it to enthusiasts, but there was still plenty of enthusiasm on display here in Yokohama. Most refreshingly, it came not only from the company’s loyal users (or “Pentaxians,” as they like to call themselves), but from the many employees on the show floor."

Intelligent layout but not so crazy as to announce itself - so .... Pentax! And happy employees are a sign of good things to come. I know whereof I speak having just spent 4 years in a merger - we're JUST NOW getting a little bit happy again. JUST NOW!!.

Kunzite · 02-04-2013, 11:26 AM

Then, things are happening more than twice as fast as you hoped for?

RockvilleBob · 02-05-2013, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

"The Pentax booth didn’t exactly set itself apart from the herd (except perhaps in terms of intelligent layout), but it’s hard to visit it and not come away with a sense of optimism for the company. Pentax has been accused of a lack of direction in the recent past, and noodling about with oddities like the K-01 and Q haven’t done much to endear it to enthusiasts, but there was still plenty of enthusiasm on display here in Yokohama. Most refreshingly, it came not only from the company’s loyal users (or “Pentaxians,” as they like to call themselves), but from the many employees on the show floor."

Intelligent layout but not so crazy as to announce itself - so .... Pentax! And happy employees are a sign of good things to come. I know whereof I speak having just spent 4 years in a merger - we're JUST NOW getting a little bit happy agian. JUST NOW!!.

Most insightful comment - thanks.

Medium FormatPro · 02-05-2013, 06:01 AM

Originally posted by thibs

And I hate PS too

I've unfortunately had literally every single version of Photoshop - typically the full versions. When I go back and think about how much I've spent on items such as that and also the extras like the plug-ins... Think of where else one could spend all of that money...

Back in the 80's and 90's that money would basically buy any fully equiped (and very large) darkroom - which is something that I still regularly use

**monochrome** · 02-05-2013, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by Medium FormatPro

Back in the 80's and 90's that money would basically buy any fully equiped (and very large) darkroom - which is something that I still regularly use

My core lament about digital photography is the opportunity cost of the time and money we've spent in front of a conmputer screen manipulating electrons - and the outright loss of the talent, skill and creativity combined in the best (and even the average) lab developers and printers. Add obsoleting our own combined darkroom experience and technique - what a tragedy.

My daughter took a wonderful Winter-Term college course at Ghost Ranch in Abiquiu, NM (Ansel Adams and Georgia O'Keefe). It was chemistry, theory and practical application (climb a mesa, expose a landscape, develop, dodge, burn and produce - for a GRADE). Using a 100% mechanical camera. She took a CLA'ed KX and a set of K lenses. IIRC a brick of TMAX 100 and a brick of Tri-X 400.

As a side-bar, there was a challenge to produce an image as close to an Adams view as possible using a modern, all mechanical 35mm camera and modern papers and chemicals. Find the location, adjust for film size, adjust for light, chemistry, etc and have a go. Of course no one came even close, but the challenge and the explanation of the technique employed was the fun and the discussions were enlightening.

That course led directly to her career - and it is no longer offered. Wet printing is such an anachronism that not enough students signed up. Tragic.

[Edit: I really do think we've lost something, and i Really do rarely sit down at my computer and make images to upload. See - here's the first post on my blog that I've never followed through on - from last April!!]

thibs · 02-05-2013, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Medium FormatPro

I've unfortunately had literally every single version of Photoshop - typically the full versions. When I go back and think about how much I've spent on items such as that and also the extras like the plug-ins... Think of where else one could spend all of that money...

Back in the 80's and 90's that money would basically buy any fully equiped (and very large) darkroom - which is something that I still regularly use

I'm not surprised. I have no such well equipped lab. Only a very small home made lab downstairs.
I certainly wished I could get a real good lab though

I'd switch electrons for photons any day in a heartbeat

02-04-2013, 11:25 AM	#248
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	"The Pentax booth didn’t exactly set itself apart from the herd (except perhaps in terms of intelligent layout), but it’s hard to visit it and not come away with a sense of optimism for the company. Pentax has been accused of a lack of direction in the recent past, and noodling about with oddities like the K-01 and Q haven’t done much to endear it to enthusiasts, but there was still plenty of enthusiasm on display here in Yokohama. Most refreshingly, it came not only from the company’s loyal users (or “Pentaxians,” as they like to call themselves), but from the many employees on the show floor." Intelligent layout but not so crazy as to announce itself - so .... Pentax! And happy employees are a sign of good things to come. I know whereof I speak having just spent 4 years in a merger - we're JUST NOW getting a little bit happy again. JUST NOW!!. Last edited by monochrome; 02-05-2013 at 07:07 AM.

02-05-2013, 07:22 AM	#252
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Medium FormatPro Back in the 80's and 90's that money would basically buy any fully equiped (and very large) darkroom - which is something that I still regularly use My core lament about digital photography is the opportunity cost of the time and money we've spent in front of a conmputer screen manipulating electrons - and the outright loss of the talent, skill and creativity combined in the best (and even the average) lab developers and printers. Add obsoleting our own combined darkroom experience and technique - what a tragedy. My daughter took a wonderful Winter-Term college course at Ghost Ranch in Abiquiu, NM (Ansel Adams and Georgia O'Keefe). It was chemistry, theory and practical application (climb a mesa, expose a landscape, develop, dodge, burn and produce - for a GRADE). Using a 100% mechanical camera. She took a CLA'ed KX and a set of K lenses. IIRC a brick of TMAX 100 and a brick of Tri-X 400. As a side-bar, there was a challenge to produce an image as close to an Adams view as possible using a modern, all mechanical 35mm camera and modern papers and chemicals. Find the location, adjust for film size, adjust for light, chemistry, etc and have a go. Of course no one came even close, but the challenge and the explanation of the technique employed was the fun and the discussions were enlightening. That course led directly to her career - and it is no longer offered. Wet printing is such an anachronism that not enough students signed up. Tragic. [Edit: I really do think we've lost something, and i Really do rarely sit down at my computer and make images to upload. See - here's the first post on my blog that I've never followed through on - from last April!!] Last edited by monochrome; 02-05-2013 at 07:48 AM.

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01-31-2013, 10:41 PM	#241
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Ash Investigating, developing... They wouldn't release a date if it is not even developed yet... Oh, and I forgot that the WG-3 was also announced. The WG-3, Q10 and MX-1 are all very cool products. But it's not my style at all...

02-01-2013, 01:10 AM	#242
soalle Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Italy -> Canada -> Belgium -> Switzerland Photos: Gallery Posts: 233	Originally posted by ogl But it's not my style at all... I was hoping at least that they would have given more details about the lens in development... I am sooooooooo interested into the 16-85!!!!

02-01-2013, 01:39 AM	#243
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by ogl But it's not my style at all... Neither are they mine. But they are both cool and very sellable cameras. Of course a big proportion of us here on the forum are waiting for something more significant to be announced, but the smaller items have a bigger market, and the bigger items take longer to develop and perfect.

02-01-2013, 08:04 AM	#244
jeffshaddix Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,473	Oh well, we still have Adam's interview to look forward to.

02-03-2013, 04:02 AM	#245
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by monochrome Well I suppose that's where I need to go then. I sent the last rolls of K-64 there and I was delighted. And I'm really a dilletante; I won't be developing or printing at home. I hate Photoshop too. I enjoy the taking part of photography just not the making part. I understand that quite well. But if one day you can't find a proper lab anymore, all is not loss. Darkroom takes space, indeed. But developing film does not require space, at all. You only get half the job done though. And I hate PS too

02-04-2013, 10:54 AM	#246
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552	Pentax CP+ 2013 Booth Tour - DigitalCamerainfo.com Quote: [...] I took the 560mm lens for a spin and found it to be superbly sharp when stopped down to f/8 [...] Some of the biggest traffic jams at CP+ happen because of booth babe rubbernecking, and the Pentax booth was no exception. [...]

02-04-2013, 11:13 AM	#247
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by froeschle Pentax CP+ 2013 Booth Tour - DigitalCamerainfo.com 7000USD lens is not sharp wide-opened...???

02-04-2013, 11:26 AM	#249
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Then, things are happening more than twice as fast as you hoped for?

02-05-2013, 04:11 AM	#250
RockvilleBob Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Lewes DE USA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,780	Originally posted by monochrome "The Pentax booth didn’t exactly set itself apart from the herd (except perhaps in terms of intelligent layout), but it’s hard to visit it and not come away with a sense of optimism for the company. Pentax has been accused of a lack of direction in the recent past, and noodling about with oddities like the K-01 and Q haven’t done much to endear it to enthusiasts, but there was still plenty of enthusiasm on display here in Yokohama. Most refreshingly, it came not only from the company’s loyal users (or “Pentaxians,” as they like to call themselves), but from the many employees on the show floor." Intelligent layout but not so crazy as to announce itself - so .... Pentax! And happy employees are a sign of good things to come. I know whereof I speak having just spent 4 years in a merger - we're JUST NOW getting a little bit happy agian. JUST NOW!!. Most insightful comment - thanks.

02-05-2013, 06:01 AM	#251
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Originally posted by thibs And I hate PS too I've unfortunately had literally every single version of Photoshop - typically the full versions. When I go back and think about how much I've spent on items such as that and also the extras like the plug-ins... Think of where else one could spend all of that money... Back in the 80's and 90's that money would basically buy any fully equiped (and very large) darkroom - which is something that I still regularly use

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02-05-2013, 03:30 PM	#253
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Medium FormatPro I've unfortunately had literally every single version of Photoshop - typically the full versions. When I go back and think about how much I've spent on items such as that and also the extras like the plug-ins... Think of where else one could spend all of that money... Back in the 80's and 90's that money would basically buy any fully equiped (and very large) darkroom - which is something that I still regularly use I'm not surprised. I have no such well equipped lab. Only a very small home made lab downstairs. I certainly wished I could get a real good lab though I'd switch electrons for photons any day in a heartbeat