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01-10-2013, 08:50 PM   #376
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ah man, sigma is great, but even the sigma dslr shooters agree that there lenses are not so great. I think thats why they are going with the classy look on there lenses now, photographers are materialistic, they'll buy anything that looks good. It's why bad companies are still in business... It's why I dont list any of my EXIF data on flickr, the ones who complain about equipment and who makes the "best" equipment are usually the bad photographers, I tell people photography is a balance between art and science, the grey area is the most important area of photography, quit being nerds and be an artist, quit being an artist and be a nerd... People learn to use the equipment you have before complaining about anything else, go to the Q forum and look at the images, 1/2.3 sensor, quit complaining and learn to shoot... Especially those of you with thousands of posts, go out and shoot and turn your laptop off...


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QuoteOriginally posted by wanderography Quote
ah man, sigma is great, but even the sigma dslr shooters agree that there lenses are not so great. I think thats why they are going with the classy look on there lenses now, photographers are materialistic, they'll buy anything that looks good. It's why bad companies are still in business... It's why I dont list any of my EXIF data on flickr, the ones who complain about equipment and who makes the "best" equipment are usually the bad photographers, I tell people photography is a balance between art and science, the grey area is the most important area of photography, quit being nerds and be an artist, quit being an artist and be a nerd... People learn to use the equipment you have before complaining about anything else, go to the Q forum and look at the images, 1/2.3 sensor, quit complaining and learn to shoot... Especially those of you with thousands of posts, go out and shoot and turn your laptop off...
Some of Sigma's lenses are terrible, some are great.

I'm not going to impugn the FA 31mm because the 50-200 isn't that swift of a lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by wanderography Quote
Especially those of you with thousands of posts, go out and shoot and turn your laptop off...
In retrospect, are you proud of the fact that you have insulted many of your fellow forum members for no reason?
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OK, it's time to get back on topic and stop the bickering amongst members please.
This thread is about the MX-1 remember?
The nifty-looking little P&S with some fine features...

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In retrospect, are you proud of the fact that you have insulted many of your fellow forum members for no reason?
no I don't have problem with it... I'd have thousands of post here too if people didn't complain so much...

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  • Vladimir Yo What about image quality MX-1 to Q ? )))

  • PENTAX The MX-1 is a 1/1.7 image sensor, so the image quality will be higher in the MX-1.
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My apologies for continuing with the off-topic, but I think this statement must be put into perspective:
QuoteOriginally posted by Medium FormatPro Quote
Canon and Nikon will always lead above Pentax - there's two.
Sony and now even Sigma are clearly ahead of Pentax - even Sigma has a much clearer plan than Pentax.

As a matter of fact I'd place my chips on the "idea" that Sigma will release two more digital slr's well before Pentax does. Sigma will also clearly release a full frame digital slr before Pentax.

So there's four names that Pentax will never surpass.
Sigma is irrelevant on the camera market, sure, they have a tiny little niche thanks to the Foveon sensors but that's all.

So far Sigma only launched 6 DSLRs (counting SD1 and SD1 Merill as separate cameras), while Pentax had 19 (K-5 II and K-5 IIs counted as one camera; see, I'm not doing Pentax any favors!). Take every Sigma camera, DSLR or not, and you still can't match Pentax' DSLRs.
Pentax is operating on a completely different, much larger scale and you're saying they are behind Sigma? In cameras?

Your bet is already lost.


On topic: I hope they'll be able to put the 1/1.7" sensor in the next Q (see VladimirYo's post above)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
On topic: I hope they'll be able to put the 1/1.7" sensor in the next Q (see VladimirYo's post above)
Do you think current lenses will cover 1/1.7" sensor?

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I have no idea; I guess it depends on if they planned it from the beginning.
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I was wishing for a Sony RX100 sensor size on Pentax MX. With constant f2.0 from 24 to 100mm, and 720 120fps video
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You were wishing about a completely different product. And by the way, a 24-100mm lens would be huge.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
You were wishing about a completely different product. And by the way, a 24-100mm lens would be huge.
Actually the lens on the MX-1 is fine for me as it appears to be the same as that on the xz-2. Love the tilting screen, maybe I can live without a hotshoe.... lack of evf doesn't bother me, although looking at what Fuji are doing with OVFs and overlays and hybird viewfinders makes me a bit envious. Price looks to be in the right sort of range at launch, and will get lower I assume (look at the bargains Pentax have with the Q and the K-01, and even the K-30 for a while...) Will wait to see hat the IQ is like when the reviews come in.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
You were wishing about a completely different product. And by the way, a 24-100mm lens would be huge.
Samsung made EX2F - very small camera with fully-articulated OLED screen and 24-80/1.4-2.7 lens
Smaller than MX-1.
Compare camera dimensions side by side

24-100 won't be huge if 100 mm is slow. for example, it could be real to develop compact 24-100/1.8-4.0 for 1/1.7" sensor.

Have a look at Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 28-100mm (equiv), f/1.8-4.9 for 1" sensor. Is it huge? no.
RX100 is much smaller than MX-1 - 101 x 58 x 36 mm vs 122 x 61 x 51 mm, but with bigger sensor.
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Maybe I overestimated the size; and I definitely forgot to mention I was talking about a constant f/2.0 24-100mm lens (for a larger, 1" sensor).
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Samsung made EX2F - very small camera with fully-articulated OLED screen and 24-80/1.4-2.7 lens
Smaller than MX-1.
Compare camera dimensions side by side

24-100 won't be huge if 100 mm is slow. for example, it could be real to develop compact 24-100/1.8-4.0 for 1/1.7" sensor.

Have a look at Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 28-100mm (equiv), f/1.8-4.9 for 1" sensor. Is it huge? no.
RX100 is much smaller than MX-1 - 101 x 58 x 36 mm vs 122 x 61 x 51 mm, but with bigger sensor.
I don't see much point in using a larger sensor with a slower lens.

Pentax MX-1 has a equivalent lens of 28-112mm f/8.4-11.6, and Sony RX100 28-100mm f/4.9-13.4, so you don't get much advantage of the larger sensor.
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