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01-21-2013, 11:28 PM   #16
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1" is nor fish, neither meat. Who will sell 1" sensor to Ricoh? Aptina 1" sensor from Nikon 1 is not very good IMO, Sony doesn't sell 1" sensor to other companies.
All Ricoh sensors are from Sony as far as I'm aware.

From what I've read, Sony had a moratorium on the 1" sensor for 6 months, which is now expired. And which wouldn't have stopped Ricoh from buying and developing it for the GRD during that time.

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As for GXR A28 - it's not the ONE WHOLE camera. It's camera + lensor.
Yes it is, and no it's not.

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GRD V with simple WR, 43/1.9 (35 mm eq.) and 16 MP APS-C sensor is interesting. If it will be...
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
GRD V with simple WR, 43/1.9 (35 mm eq.) and 16 MP APS-C sensor is interesting. If it will be...
I wish you are right. I would sell my NX10 and 20mm+30mm pancakes for that in a heartbeat
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GRD V will be 4/3" or APS-C compact: Ricoh Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
GRD V with simple WR, 43/1.9 (35 mm eq.) and 16 MP APS-C sensor is interesting. If it will be..
i'd buy it ASAP !
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My wager is the GRD will have a 1" sensor. An APSC sensor simply won't fit in a GRD - otherwise Sony would have put one in their RX100 which is similar size, which means that camera has shown a 1" will actually fit in a GRD.
I don't see why not. Comparing it to a Sony RX100 is apples and oranges, as the Sony has a zoom lens. There are plenty of very compact film cameras with fixed lenses that provided a far larger image circle.

In addition, Ricoh have also demonstrated with their M mount module that they are very capable at creating an effective micro-lens solution.
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I don't see why not. Comparing it to a Sony RX100 is apples and oranges, as the Sony has a zoom lens. There are plenty of very compact film cameras with fixed lenses that provided a far larger image circle.

In addition, Ricoh have also demonstrated with their M mount module that they are very capable at creating an effective micro-lens solution.

Yes. Of course.
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What would be the launch price in your opinion ? Something like $800 ?

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What would be the launch price in your opinion ? Something like $800 ?
With APS-C sensor it probably be over $1000. Fuji X100(s) has launch price of $1300.
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With APS-C sensor it probably be over $1000. Fuji X100(s) has launch price of $1300.
depending on the feature, for me a 1300$ compact is waaaay overpriced ! and Yes i consider the fuji to be overpriced.
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I agree with one of the comments below that blog says if GRD goes beyond its current size it will lost its soul.
GRD is photographer's dagger. Not big, but very handy.
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GR DIGITAL IV - 108.6 mm (W) x 59.8 mm (H) x 32.5 mm
RX-1 - 113 mm x 65.4 mm (with 35 mm sensor)
Ricoh GXR - 113.9 mm x 70.2 mm
LEICA X2 - 124 mm x 69 mm


I think it's not a problem to make GRD V with bigger than 1/1.7" sensor and with size not bigger than RX-1 and a bit thicker than 32.5 mm.
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More often than not, camera manufacturers test different designs and approaches for the same product. When rumours say GRD V will have an APS-C sensor, it is also valid to assume Ricoh is evaluating pros and cons of different mockup models, using different size sensors and lens combos. An APS-C sensor version may be the most likely candidate this time, but the final decision will be postponed until there is more concrete info about the new cameras from other manufacturers (esp re pricing and finding best markets considering competition).
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Moving to an APS-C sensor for the GRD would make for an amazing camera. There are a few things I hope they don't change about it.
- The lens should retract fully into the body
- It should have an integrated lens cover
- They shouldn't mess with the overall design or controls
- It should retain the PDAF sensor
- They should keep using the highest quality components (e.g. screen, body)
- They should keep the ability to use AAA batteries

For anyone sceptical about how this can be made small, the GXR 28 module is not a great comparison because it is based on an old sensor. Sony's newer sensors are more tolerant of the angle of light reaching then, which seems to be how they created the RX100 and the RX1. Ricoh also achieved the same thing in the GXR M-mount module by using micro lenses. Another point is that the mount rails must add some extra thickness to the GXR, which would not apply to the GRD. But most of all, the GR series has always been compact, so it may be bigger but not by much. Otherwise, they would call it something different.
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