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08-26-2014, 10:13 AM   #136
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Ouch, that fourth photo is really sharp

Seriously, it IS tempting (the lense I mean lol)

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It is super sharp (which unfortunately wasnt very flattering to the model's nose area)...
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Lets see a competition between Samyang 50mm, Sigma 50mm f1.4 art, and Zeiss Otus (though, since Otus is 55mm it has a slight advantage in bokeh). and Just for kicks, add the FA 50mm f1.4
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QuoteOriginally posted by cali92rs Quote
It is super sharp (which unfortunately wasnt very flattering to the model's nose area)...
It is easier to smooth that out in PP than to make a soft lens sharp...

I also prefer sharper open wide lenses these days, especially when manual focusing is involved... it's too hard to focus with my Rikenon 50 1.4 because it's so soft wide open. I end up missing a lot of shots.

QuoteOriginally posted by Na Horuk Quote
Lets see a competition between Samyang 50mm, Sigma 50mm f1.4 art, and Zeiss Otus (though, since Otus is 55mm it has a slight advantage in bokeh). and Just for kicks, add the FA 50mm f1.4
I would add the A 50 1.2 instead, then we'd have a real fight, I think

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QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
It is easier to smooth that out in PP than to make a soft lens sharp...
I disagree. Why not shoot in B&W in put colours in PP then?
More to the point, whatever blur you put in PP will never be what you'd get with the lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by thibs Quote
I disagree. Why not shoot in B&W in put colours in PP then?
My point was that it's easier to take something away (sharpness) than to add it. In your case, you're saying "add colors" but that goes completely opposite to what I said.

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More to the point, whatever blur you put in PP will never be what you'd get with the lens.
I agree with you, it won't be the same, but pros smooth out skin every day in PP. I see it all the time, including pictures of our family that we went to pro photogs. I see it in ads and magazines as well, and PSP tutorials seem to focus quite a bit on that.

I've never seen someone being able to add proper sharpness to a soft image. Though there might be some kind of utility I'm unaware of

That's all I was trying to say, don't make it a storm in a teacup. Enjoy your soft lenses, if that is what you prefer
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QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
It is easier to smooth that out in PP than to make a soft lens sharp...
I agree, and I do like it's sharpness...i just think it's a little unfortunate for her sake.
She's still great looking, just sayin...
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That'll teach ya not to pixel peep on women

I agree with what you are saying. They could have smoothed it out, but chose not to, to show the sharpness of the lens.

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It's more of a (micro)contrast/light thing if you ask me. This would also have shown up with a lesser lens.
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That is plenty sharp indeed! But, like D1N0 said, I think you can achieve most of this kind of sharpening with good post processing. The big question is how does this compare with Pentax K-M-A-F-FA 50mm f/1.4? Any of these lenses can be had for much less than what Samyang is asking for their 50mm f/1.4. If I can get 80-90% of the performance for 25-40% of the cost then the Samyang could be a hard sell to many.
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Some of the reviews on the internet say it's going to be 479.99 for the cinema lens price... don't know US pricing, no VAT but with an unfavorable exchange rate... if it was $600 there's about zero chance I'd purchase it.

The photography version might be cheaper than the cinema version; we'll see.
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US pricing is $549.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
US pricing is $549.
Thanks. Is that for the cinema version? Hopefully the non-cinema will be a bit cheaper.

If I was OK with manual focus at that focal length, I'd look pretty hard at an A* or a Zeiss.

Moot point for me, though.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Na Horuk Quote
Lets see a competition between Samyang 50mm, Sigma 50mm f1.4 art, and Zeiss Otus (though, since Otus is 55mm it has a slight advantage in bokeh). and Just for kicks, add the FA 50mm f1.4
Do you want to test them on a Sony? Or has the 50mm Sigma Art shown up in K-mount recently?
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QuoteOriginally posted by ElJamoquio Quote
Thanks. Is that for the cinema version? Hopefully the non-cinema will be a bit cheaper.

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Yes, it is. I haven't seen any price for the f/1.4 version yet.
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Samyang prices similar cinema/noncinema lenses equally. There will also be a new 85mm F1.4 soon with a new lens formula which will cost $499,- Rokinon Announces a Bokelicous 50mm t1.5 Cine DS Lens and More
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