Originally posted by normhead That's not entirely accurate... if you're assuming same FoV then you'd have to use a wider lens on APS-c. I did a test using a 50 mm lens and a 35 mm lens on an object with a ruler beside it. There were a number of issues. one, I couldn't focus close enough with the 50mm lens to even take the same picture. People who discuss equivalency tend to ignore this type of issue. So I had to move my camera back so the 50 mm could focus (which meant I didn't get the framing I wanted in either image, so quite simply stated, I couldn't even get the framing I wanted using the 50 mm on FF.) But I digress.
Using the 35 mm on APS-c and 50 on FF to simulate the same F0V, the 35 mm APS-c produced twice as much DoF, 12mm to 6mm. That's not an illusion, that's a practical observation and measurement. You can always tell the difference between someone who is deriving information from theory from someone who's done this type of testing, because the theory guys always overlook relevant data and deal in absolutes. Things like the different characteristics of the different lenses used to achieve the same FoV etc are never mentioned. They misrepresented the theory, because they didn't realize, theoretical anything has to be verified empirically to have any validity. A theory without practical verification and empirical evaluation is generally called a notion. Most of what passes for theory around here is in fact un-substantiated misrepresentations of known theories that are too narrow in their application to be much use in the real world.
This is one of the issues I only understood after I'd sold my Pentax gear.
For example:
APS-C: Pentax DA*55mm MFD = .45 meters
DOF @ f/1.4 @ 45cm = 3.79mm
Backing this lens off to a distance of 1262mm to match the view of the 85mm Sigma on FF ( 55mm APS-C equivalent to a 82.5mm FF lens)
DOF @ 1262mm @ f/1.4 = 29.83mm
Full Frame: Sigma 85mm MFD = 1.3 meters
DOF @ f/1.4 @ 1.3m = 19.65mm
DOF @ f/2.0 @ 1.3m = 28.70mm (APS-C f/1.4 has equivalent DOF of f/2 FF lens for equal FOV and distance to subject)
Moving the APS-C camera back to the point where the framing was the same for both systems obviously makes a big difference here but,
clearly, there's no equivalence when shooting in the zone where the difference in the MFD of the two lenses is being exploited.
A 90mm Macro on FF would probably get closer and thus get the framing to match.
Full Frame 90mm Tamron f2.8 Macro
DOF @ f/2.8 @ 45cm = 4.2mm (close enough)
Last edited by bossa; 04-09-2013 at 09:13 PM.