K-01 ii

RonHendriks1966 · 04-02-2013, 10:12 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Na Horuk

I have to say, the burst mode is pretty bad on the K-01. It is mirrorless, it should be able to perform at least as well if not better than the K-30. I don't see why adding a couple MB to the buffer would be prohibitively expensive.

I do use the bracketing-mode to make three RAW images at the 6 fps speed for portraits (groups) to have a better luckrate on getting a good image. It's not a speedmonster in this regard.

mrNewt · 04-02-2013, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by Blue

This thread was started in mid-March.

Talking about failures ...

I've seen it yesterday and didn't bother to look when it was posted

... obviously assumed another "prank" ...

Na Horuk · 04-02-2013, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

I do use the bracketing-mode to make three RAW images at the 6 fps speed for portraits (groups) to have a better luckrate on getting a good image. It's not a speedmonster in this regard.

I know, eh? But if this can work, why doesn't burst mode HI work for raw? Thats what kind of bothers me, seems like a firmware update could improve the burst rate modes

asw66 · 04-07-2013, 06:47 AM

I know that a lot of people like to pour scorn on Newson's design, but my K-01 attracts comments that it looks "cool" or even "sexy". People don't talk this way about SLRs.

Transit · 04-07-2013, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by asw66

I know that a lot of people like to pour scorn on Newson's design, but my K-01 attracts comments that it looks "cool" or even "sexy". People don't talk this way about SLRs.

yes, I'm starting to get that

IchabodCrane · 04-07-2013, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by asw66

I know that a lot of people like to pour scorn on Newson's design, but my K-01 attracts comments that it looks "cool" or even "sexy". People don't talk this way about SLRs.

I view things like "cool" and "sexy" as soft add-on attributes. In the world of cameras, how often have people made those kinds of things prominent factors in their purchasing decisions?

bossa · 04-07-2013, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by IchabodCrane

I view things like "cool" and "sexy" as soft add-on attributes. In the world of cameras, how often have people made those kinds of things prominent factors in their purchasing decisions?

I've tended to make my choice of GF based on "sexy".. I had a hell of a lot of fun with that.

Smeggypants · 04-07-2013, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by asw66

I know that a lot of people like to pour scorn on Newson's design, but my K-01 attracts comments that it looks "cool" or even "sexy". People don't talk this way about SLRs.

Obviously by people who have joined the Elite of being educated in the technicalities of "modern design"

bossa · 04-07-2013, 04:22 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Smeggypants

Obviously by people who have joined the Elite of being educated in the technicalities of "modern design"

What you fail to appreciate is that there is a visual language based on 1,000's of years of visual exploration (and expression) and not just individual taste (mostly based on exposure and conditioning anyway). Your ability to hold a grudge and continue your 'put downs' on this subject proves your ignorance although you cannot see it.

Bramela · 04-07-2013, 07:51 PM

Could those making posts here, please keep cool heads, and stick to the topic being discussed. Please make comments in a sound and logical manner, without becoming personal, and accept that others may disagree with your thinking.

Thanks all.

johnmflores · 04-07-2013, 08:33 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by IchabodCrane

I view things like "cool" and "sexy" as soft add-on attributes. In the world of cameras, how often have people made those kinds of things prominent factors in their purchasing decisions?

See Olympus OM-D, Fuji X-Pro 1, et. al.

This is a visual avocation, so it's no surprise that for some that extends to the looks of the camera.

**monochrome** · 04-07-2013, 09:21 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by johnmflores

See Olympus OM-D, Fuji X-Pro 1, et. al.

This is a visual avocation, so it's no surprise that for some that extends to the looks of the camera.

An impressively perceptive understanding of what I feel when I simply look at or hold my K-01. I have no idea why the K-01 and certain historical cameras (SV, F1, K2, LX) connect to me visually (and others - F2, OM-1, SF-1 - don't), but I was immediately drawn to the appearance of the K-01 and pre-ordered it, determined to make it work. I ave never purchased any another consumer product in the early adopter phase.

When a poster declares, unequivocally, "The K-01 is butt ugly." it is indirectly a critical judgement of my aesthetic preferences. That makes me defensive and angry. When a poster writes, "I don't personally care for the K-01 design because (feature / detriment, feature / detriment)," it is that poster's personal aesthetic preference and has no effect on me.

bossa · 04-07-2013, 10:01 PM

I was contacted by a moderator who told me that my post was 'edited' but that post seems to have been totally deleted. And yet, the offensive post I responded to is still here...

Smeggypants · 04-08-2013, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

When a poster declares, unequivocally, "The K-01 is butt ugly." it is indirectly a critical judgement of my aesthetic preferences. That makes me defensive and angry. When a poster writes, "I don't personally care for the K-01 design because (feature / detriment, feature / detriment)," it is that poster's personal aesthetic preference and has no effect on me.

Personally I don't think it's fair to judge other people's subjective preferences as an insult to your own subjective preferences. We should respect that we are all different. I state unequivocally that I find the K-01 'butt ugly', but I also respect that others can find it a thing of beauty. It would be a pretty boring old world if we all like or disliked the same things.

So by stating I find the K-01 'butt ugly' I am not judging anyone else nor speaking for them, but only speaking for myself.

IchabodCrane · 04-08-2013, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Smeggypants

Personally I don't think it's fair to judge other people's subjective preferences as an insult to your own subjective preferences. We should respect that we are all different. I state unequivocally that I find the K-01 'butt ugly', but I also respect that others can find it a thing of beauty. It would be a pretty boring old world if we all like or disliked the same things.

So by stating I find the K-01 'butt ugly' I am judging anyone else nor speaking for them, but only speaking for myself.

It's not your opinion but rather the choice of words that's the issue, IMHO. As a more extreme example, would you use those words to describe some else' spouse and then hide behind the explanation "I accept you think she's beautiful"?

04-07-2013, 04:22 PM - 1 Like	#54
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	Originally posted by Smeggypants Obviously by people who have joined the Elite of being educated in the technicalities of "modern design" What you fail to appreciate is that there is a visual language based on 1,000's of years of visual exploration (and expression) and not just individual taste (mostly based on exposure and conditioning anyway). Your ability to hold a grudge and continue your 'put downs' on this subject proves your ignorance although you cannot see it. Last edited by Bramela; 04-07-2013 at 07:48 PM.

04-07-2013, 09:21 PM - 1 Like	#57
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by johnmflores See Olympus OM-D, Fuji X-Pro 1, et. al. This is a visual avocation, so it's no surprise that for some that extends to the looks of the camera. An impressively perceptive understanding of what I feel when I simply look at or hold my K-01. I have no idea why the K-01 and certain historical cameras (SV, F1, K2, LX) connect to me visually (and others - F2, OM-1, SF-1 - don't), but I was immediately drawn to the appearance of the K-01 and pre-ordered it, determined to make it work. I ave never purchased any another consumer product in the early adopter phase. When a poster declares, unequivocally, "The K-01 is butt ugly." it is indirectly a critical judgement of my aesthetic preferences. That makes me defensive and angry. When a poster writes, "I don't personally care for the K-01 design because (feature / detriment, feature / detriment)," it is that poster's personal aesthetic preference and has no effect on me. Last edited by monochrome; 04-07-2013 at 09:32 PM.

04-08-2013, 06:13 AM	#59
Smeggypants Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,536	Originally posted by monochrome When a poster declares, unequivocally, "The K-01 is butt ugly." it is indirectly a critical judgement of my aesthetic preferences. That makes me defensive and angry. When a poster writes, "I don't personally care for the K-01 design because (feature / detriment, feature / detriment)," it is that poster's personal aesthetic preference and has no effect on me. Personally I don't think it's fair to judge other people's subjective preferences as an insult to your own subjective preferences. We should respect that we are all different. I state unequivocally that I find the K-01 'butt ugly', but I also respect that others can find it a thing of beauty. It would be a pretty boring old world if we all like or disliked the same things. So by stating I find the K-01 'butt ugly' I am not judging anyone else nor speaking for them, but only speaking for myself. Last edited by Bramela; 04-08-2013 at 12:14 PM.

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04-02-2013, 10:12 AM - 1 Like	#46
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Na Horuk I have to say, the burst mode is pretty bad on the K-01. It is mirrorless, it should be able to perform at least as well if not better than the K-30. I don't see why adding a couple MB to the buffer would be prohibitively expensive. I do use the bracketing-mode to make three RAW images at the 6 fps speed for portraits (groups) to have a better luckrate on getting a good image. It's not a speedmonster in this regard.

04-02-2013, 10:15 AM	#47
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by Blue This thread was started in mid-March. Talking about failures ... I've seen it yesterday and didn't bother to look when it was posted ... obviously assumed another "prank" ...

04-02-2013, 11:01 AM	#48
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 I do use the bracketing-mode to make three RAW images at the 6 fps speed for portraits (groups) to have a better luckrate on getting a good image. It's not a speedmonster in this regard. I know, eh? But if this can work, why doesn't burst mode HI work for raw? Thats what kind of bothers me, seems like a firmware update could improve the burst rate modes

04-07-2013, 06:47 AM	#49
asw66 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 347	I know that a lot of people like to pour scorn on Newson's design, but my K-01 attracts comments that it looks "cool" or even "sexy". People don't talk this way about SLRs.

04-07-2013, 03:00 PM	#50
Transit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whanganui NZ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,624	Originally posted by asw66 I know that a lot of people like to pour scorn on Newson's design, but my K-01 attracts comments that it looks "cool" or even "sexy". People don't talk this way about SLRs. yes, I'm starting to get that

04-07-2013, 03:06 PM	#51
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by asw66 I know that a lot of people like to pour scorn on Newson's design, but my K-01 attracts comments that it looks "cool" or even "sexy". People don't talk this way about SLRs. I view things like "cool" and "sexy" as soft add-on attributes. In the world of cameras, how often have people made those kinds of things prominent factors in their purchasing decisions?

04-07-2013, 03:16 PM	#52
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	Originally posted by IchabodCrane I view things like "cool" and "sexy" as soft add-on attributes. In the world of cameras, how often have people made those kinds of things prominent factors in their purchasing decisions? I've tended to make my choice of GF based on "sexy".. I had a hell of a lot of fun with that.

04-07-2013, 03:34 PM	#53
Smeggypants Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,536	Originally posted by asw66 I know that a lot of people like to pour scorn on Newson's design, but my K-01 attracts comments that it looks "cool" or even "sexy". People don't talk this way about SLRs. Obviously by people who have joined the Elite of being educated in the technicalities of "modern design"

04-07-2013, 07:51 PM	#55
Bramela Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Newcastle Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,284	Could those making posts here, please keep cool heads, and stick to the topic being discussed. Please make comments in a sound and logical manner, without becoming personal, and accept that others may disagree with your thinking. Thanks all.

04-07-2013, 08:33 PM - 1 Like	#56
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by IchabodCrane I view things like "cool" and "sexy" as soft add-on attributes. In the world of cameras, how often have people made those kinds of things prominent factors in their purchasing decisions? See Olympus OM-D, Fuji X-Pro 1, et. al. This is a visual avocation, so it's no surprise that for some that extends to the looks of the camera.

04-07-2013, 10:01 PM	#58
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546	I was contacted by a moderator who told me that my post was 'edited' but that post seems to have been totally deleted. And yet, the offensive post I responded to is still here...

04-08-2013, 08:22 AM	#60
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by Smeggypants Personally I don't think it's fair to judge other people's subjective preferences as an insult to your own subjective preferences. We should respect that we are all different. I state unequivocally that I find the K-01 'butt ugly', but I also respect that others can find it a thing of beauty. It would be a pretty boring old world if we all like or disliked the same things. So by stating I find the K-01 'butt ugly' I am judging anyone else nor speaking for them, but only speaking for myself. It's not your opinion but rather the choice of words that's the issue, IMHO. As a more extreme example, would you use those words to describe some else' spouse and then hide behind the explanation "I accept you think she's beautiful"?