FA Limiteds To Be Discontinued?

**NaClH2O** · 04-12-2013, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by NickLarsson

What do you guys think will happen to the current FA limited prices if a FF camera and new DFA limited lenses are released ?

Will they go down because of the new (and supposedly better) lenses or go up because of the body ?

Don't kid yourself, they'll go up. I doubt very seriously that "supposedly better" lenses will ever appear. It's hard to improve on near perfection. WR, yes. Quick shift yes. But that's about it. And the focal lengths are designed for FF bodies.

NaCl(in fact I'm expecting all FA lenses to get a big price boot if/when a FF body comes out)H2O

Mistral75 · 04-12-2013, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by NickLarsson

What do you guys think will happen to the current FA limited prices if a FF camera and new DFA limited lenses are released ?

Will they go down because of the new (and supposedly better) lenses or go up because of the body ?

They won't go down, look at the price of FA* 200mm f/2.8 and F*/FA* 300mm f/4.5 on eBay, just to name two famous Pentax lenses which have a modern equivalent (with the advantage of dust and moisture protection, SDM, Quick Shift and so on).

**Digitalis** · 04-12-2013, 04:45 AM

arrrggghhh the sky is falling

- in all seriousness, it is possible pentax may be giving these lenses a revamp - if they do then expect the old FA limited to suffer a serous price drop.

ogl · 04-12-2013, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by bossa

No I'm not Rice High and what's your point?

He said the same things several days ago...

Check his blog.

**Rorschach** · 04-12-2013, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

arrrggghhh the sky is falling

- in all seriousness, it is possible pentax may be giving these lenses a revamp - if they do then expect the old FA limited to suffer a serous price drop.

Yes, I expect these lenses will get optimized for digital and some of them might get weather protected as well.

Bob from Aus · 04-12-2013, 05:13 AM - **2 Likes**

I have a more positive theory. They have second brochure ready to go with a bag full of brand new FF lenses ready to go with the new FF camera.

I have not been smoking anything funny

**Rorschach** · 04-12-2013, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by ogl

He said the same things several days ago...

Check his blog.

I don't want to support RiceLow by giving clicks to his site :-)

So no, I am not going there.

Docrwm · 04-12-2013, 05:39 AM

I've already addressed this issue:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/221458-newegg-post-da-...ml#post2348669

Franky2step · 04-12-2013, 05:39 AM

I think the deal of $250 off a FA lens when buying the K-5 II is about getting full frame lenses out to aps-c shooters. When a full frame camera is released, these shooters will already own a FA LENS, making the upgrade easier. It's the " puppy" sale, take it home for a few days, see how you get on with it.

bossa · 04-12-2013, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by Franky2step

I think the deal of $250 off a FA lens when buying the K-5 II is about getting full frame lenses out to aps-c shooters. When a full frame camera is released, these shooters will already own a FA LENS, making the upgrade easier. It's the " puppy" sale, take it home for a few days, see how you get on with it.

That was my initial assumption but I gave it away after the "5 new DSLR's" never materialized.. it's hard to remain positive about Pentax when they never really say anything.

bossa · 04-12-2013, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by NaClH2O

Don't kid yourself, they'll go up. I doubt very seriously that "supposedly better" lenses will ever appear. It's hard to improve on near perfection. WR, yes. Quick shift yes. But that's about it. And the focal lengths are designed for FF bodies.

NaCl(in fact I'm expecting all FA lenses to get a big price boot if/when a FF body comes out)H2O

The '31 & '77 definitely need a coating overhaul to reduce the purple fringing.

**robbiec** · 04-12-2013, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by bossa

The '31 & '77 definitely need a coating overhaul to reduce the purple fringing.

How about not shooting wide open with high contrast subjects

Kunzite · 04-12-2013, 06:21 AM - **2 Likes**

Meanwhile, at Pentax: "You, ****** ******! I said we should discount the FA Limiteds, discount!"

NaClH2O, I can definitely think of areas to improve. WR construction (would be nice if every non-budget Pentax lens would be WR), QSF, HD coatings and, in some cases, better corner performance.

bossa · 04-12-2013, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by robbiec

How about not shooting wide open with high contrast subjects

What a nice idea.. thanks.

Franky2step · 04-12-2013, 06:34 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by bossa

That was my initial assumption but I gave it away after the "5 new DSLR's" never materialized.. it's hard to remain positive about Pentax when they never really say anything.

I'm trying to remain positive on a Pentax full frame because the alternative it to jump brands and have to sell my K5 and 13 lenses. Getting tired of the rhetoric, the what if, maybe when,if only. I could just go Nikon or Canon full frame and never have to cross my fingers again for a upgrade path.

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04-12-2013, 04:40 AM	#16
NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,631	Originally posted by NickLarsson What do you guys think will happen to the current FA limited prices if a FF camera and new DFA limited lenses are released ? Will they go down because of the new (and supposedly better) lenses or go up because of the body ? Don't kid yourself, they'll go up. I doubt very seriously that "supposedly better" lenses will ever appear. It's hard to improve on near perfection. WR, yes. Quick shift yes. But that's about it. And the focal lengths are designed for FF bodies. NaCl(in fact I'm expecting all FA lenses to get a big price boot if/when a FF body comes out)H2O

04-12-2013, 04:40 AM	#17
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by NickLarsson What do you guys think will happen to the current FA limited prices if a FF camera and new DFA limited lenses are released ? Will they go down because of the new (and supposedly better) lenses or go up because of the body ? They won't go down, look at the price of FA* 200mm f/2.8 and F/FA 300mm f/4.5 on eBay, just to name two famous Pentax lenses which have a modern equivalent (with the advantage of dust and moisture protection, SDM, Quick Shift and so on).

04-12-2013, 04:45 AM	#18
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	arrrggghhh the sky is falling - in all seriousness, it is possible pentax may be giving these lenses a revamp - if they do then expect the old FA limited to suffer a serous price drop.

04-12-2013, 05:01 AM	#19
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by bossa No I'm not Rice High and what's your point? He said the same things several days ago... Check his blog.

04-12-2013, 05:12 AM	#20
Rorschach Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kuusamo, Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 652	Originally posted by Digitalis arrrggghhh the sky is falling - in all seriousness, it is possible pentax may be giving these lenses a revamp - if they do then expect the old FA limited to suffer a serous price drop. Yes, I expect these lenses will get optimized for digital and some of them might get weather protected as well.

04-12-2013, 05:13 AM - 2 Likes	#21
Bob from Aus Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,094	I have a more positive theory. They have second brochure ready to go with a bag full of brand new FF lenses ready to go with the new FF camera. I have not been smoking anything funny

04-12-2013, 05:13 AM	#22
Rorschach Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kuusamo, Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 652	Originally posted by ogl He said the same things several days ago... Check his blog. I don't want to support RiceLow by giving clicks to his site :-) So no, I am not going there.

04-12-2013, 05:39 AM	#23
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	I've already addressed this issue: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/221458-newegg-post-da-...ml#post2348669

04-12-2013, 05:39 AM	#24
Franky2step Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 793	I think the deal of $250 off a FA lens when buying the K-5 II is about getting full frame lenses out to aps-c shooters. When a full frame camera is released, these shooters will already own a FA LENS, making the upgrade easier. It's the " puppy" sale, take it home for a few days, see how you get on with it.

04-12-2013, 05:49 AM	#25
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546 Original Poster	Originally posted by Franky2step I think the deal of $250 off a FA lens when buying the K-5 II is about getting full frame lenses out to aps-c shooters. When a full frame camera is released, these shooters will already own a FA LENS, making the upgrade easier. It's the " puppy" sale, take it home for a few days, see how you get on with it. That was my initial assumption but I gave it away after the "5 new DSLR's" never materialized.. it's hard to remain positive about Pentax when they never really say anything.

04-12-2013, 05:56 AM	#26
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546 Original Poster	Originally posted by NaClH2O Don't kid yourself, they'll go up. I doubt very seriously that "supposedly better" lenses will ever appear. It's hard to improve on near perfection. WR, yes. Quick shift yes. But that's about it. And the focal lengths are designed for FF bodies. NaCl(in fact I'm expecting all FA lenses to get a big price boot if/when a FF body comes out)H2O The '31 & '77 definitely need a coating overhaul to reduce the purple fringing.

04-12-2013, 06:14 AM	#27
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Originally posted by bossa The '31 & '77 definitely need a coating overhaul to reduce the purple fringing. How about not shooting wide open with high contrast subjects

04-12-2013, 06:21 AM - 2 Likes	#28
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Meanwhile, at Pentax: "You, **** ****! I said we should discount the FA Limiteds, discount!" NaClH2O, I can definitely think of areas to improve. WR construction (would be nice if every non-budget Pentax lens would be WR), QSF, HD coatings and, in some cases, better corner performance.

04-12-2013, 06:30 AM	#29
bossa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Adelaide Posts: 4,546 Original Poster	Originally posted by robbiec How about not shooting wide open with high contrast subjects What a nice idea.. thanks.

04-12-2013, 06:34 AM - 1 Like	#30
Franky2step Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 793	Originally posted by bossa That was my initial assumption but I gave it away after the "5 new DSLR's" never materialized.. it's hard to remain positive about Pentax when they never really say anything. I'm trying to remain positive on a Pentax full frame because the alternative it to jump brands and have to sell my K5 and 13 lenses. Getting tired of the rhetoric, the what if, maybe when,if only. I could just go Nikon or Canon full frame and never have to cross my fingers again for a upgrade path.