Ricoh Pentax releases 2 wrist watches

Tonto · 04-19-2013, 10:07 PM

Im actually in the market for a watch but I will probably just grab an iPod Nano as it has a plethora of straps available depending on what I'm wearing. I was also considering and independent MP3 player from my phone so it kinda kills two birds with one stone. Also can use with the Nike+ system to monitor my heart rate while I'm cycling- not a fan of the looks of the Pebble - form over function to some degree here

Cynog Ap Brychan · 04-19-2013, 10:14 PM

Does it have shake reduction?

**Fontan** · 04-19-2013, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by Tonto

Im actually in the market for a watch but I will probably just grab an iPod Nano as it has a plethora of straps available depending on what I'm wearing. I was also considering and independent MP3 player from my phone so it kinda kills two birds with one stone. Also can use with the Nike+ system to monitor my heart rate while I'm cycling- not a fan of the looks of the Pebble - form over function to some degree here

For a serious cycler Nike+ really blows. I suggest garmin edge.

Tonto · 04-19-2013, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by Fontan

For a serious cycler Nike+ really blows. I suggest garmin edge.

I don't need it for cadence or speed I have my dedicated one for that.

Just noticed Apple no longer sell the Nano 6th ed, they have gone back to the previous form factor- oh well.

Arimel · 04-19-2013, 11:16 PM

i would love to have one of not both of theas watches i wounder if thell ship over seas

Docrwm · 04-20-2013, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by Fontan

I was told by a reliable source that tpm (ticks per minute) for this watch is only 60. This is very concerning.

The term used by watch collectors is beats per minute and 60 would make these watches unique. But, because they're quartz, it really isn't a relevant measure.

**monochrome** · 04-20-2013, 05:23 AM

I think they would look better in all black.

Apapukas · 04-20-2013, 05:30 AM

I have a super hard time understanding this "Limited for japanese market" thing.
What are they thinking? Does the money from the rest of the world isn't good enough?
.................................

Docrwm · 04-20-2013, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by Apapukas

I have a super hard time understanding this "Limited for japanese market" thing.
What are they thinking? Does the money from the rest of the world isn't good enough?
.................................

Very common with Japanese companies. Seiko, as an example using watches, has entire lines that are only available in Japan and are among their absolute best watches. I have gone through specialty middle-men in Japan in order to purchase special Seiko watches and would do so again if I could find the one last model that I want.

Speaking as a recovering Watch Collector

, these models are rather nice for the price they are asking (~$249). Often the promotion branded watches are just pure garbage. If you are into techno watches they present with some nice features, are water resistant to 10BAR, have sapphire crystals, are stainless steel in construction, alarms, dual time zones, and several other features. Among watch collectors I'm like the camera folks that use K1000s and other film-era cameras, I really have almost all manual and automatic watches. The three quartz watches that I have were gifts.

Apapukas · 04-20-2013, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by Docrwm

Very common with Japanese companies. Seiko, as an example using watches, has entire lines that are only available in Japan and are among their absolute best watches. I have gone through specialty middle-men in Japan in order to purchase special Seiko watches and would do so again if I could find the one last model that I want.

Are they not losing money and reputation this way?

**monochrome** · 04-20-2013, 05:58 AM

I don't know about watches, but sometimes regulatory restrictions and import duties on a product category make selling them in certain markets cost-prohibitive.

Docrwm · 04-20-2013, 06:01 AM

Originally posted by Apapukas

Are they not losing money and reputation this way?

No, not really. They see the distribution and support as significant investments. Seiko in the Home market supports their high-end products rather well. Providing the same caliber of support outside the Home market would be costly and not a certainty in their view. Distribution is another issue, as Pentax has seen in the US. The type of dedication that a major company receives, and gives, from its employees in Japan is not matched many other places. Also, only a few aficionados know about the truly marvelous watches made only for the Home market and we have found ways to obtain them despite our disadvantage of not being born Japanese

**Digitalis** · 04-20-2013, 06:06 AM

ew..look at that banding!- in all seriousness, I would consider getting the metal Pentax K watch.

Apapukas · 04-20-2013, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by Docrwm

No, not really. They see the distribution and support as significant investments. Seiko in the Home market supports their high-end products rather well. Providing the same caliber of support outside the Home market would be costly and not a certainty in their view. Distribution is another issue, as Pentax has seen in the US. The type of dedication that a major company receives, and gives, from its employees in Japan is not matched many other places. Also, only a few aficionados know about the truly marvelous watches made only for the Home market and we have found ways to obtain them despite our disadvantage of not being born Japanese

That makes sense. I understand it now, thank you

**StigVidar** · 04-20-2013, 06:20 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Docrwm

Also, only a few aficionados know about the truly marvelous watches made only for the Home market and we have found ways to obtain them despite our disadvantage of not being born Japanese

I took me only a few minutes to order one last evening. I did it with my Tenso account which I have used for other "japanese only" items.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
New DSLR Releases from Pentax	Mlcinema	Pentax DSLR Discussion	11	01-17-2013 01:55 PM
Pentax-Ricoh.com a 645D-2 teaser?	RXrenesis8	Pentax News and Rumors	10	06-21-2012 01:40 AM
For Sale - Sold: Ricoh 55mm f/1.2 (no Ricoh pin!), Voigtlander 40mm f/2 Ultron	feilb	Sold Items	4	11-22-2011 07:47 PM
RICOH Establishes PENTAX RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD.	Adam	Homepage & Official Pentax News	20	10-13-2011 03:31 AM
Beautiful PENTAX wrist straps from Italian master	TKH	Pentax Camera and Field Accessories	27	12-30-2009 12:04 AM

04-19-2013, 10:07 PM	#16
Tonto Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 969	Im actually in the market for a watch but I will probably just grab an iPod Nano as it has a plethora of straps available depending on what I'm wearing. I was also considering and independent MP3 player from my phone so it kinda kills two birds with one stone. Also can use with the Nike+ system to monitor my heart rate while I'm cycling- not a fan of the looks of the Pebble - form over function to some degree here

04-19-2013, 10:14 PM	#17
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Does it have shake reduction?

04-19-2013, 10:19 PM	#18
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Originally posted by Tonto Im actually in the market for a watch but I will probably just grab an iPod Nano as it has a plethora of straps available depending on what I'm wearing. I was also considering and independent MP3 player from my phone so it kinda kills two birds with one stone. Also can use with the Nike+ system to monitor my heart rate while I'm cycling- not a fan of the looks of the Pebble - form over function to some degree here For a serious cycler Nike+ really blows. I suggest garmin edge.

04-19-2013, 10:42 PM	#19
Tonto Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 969	Originally posted by Fontan For a serious cycler Nike+ really blows. I suggest garmin edge. I don't need it for cadence or speed I have my dedicated one for that. Just noticed Apple no longer sell the Nano 6th ed, they have gone back to the previous form factor- oh well.

04-19-2013, 11:16 PM	#20
Arimel Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Pagosa Springs, CO Posts: 36	i would love to have one of not both of theas watches i wounder if thell ship over seas

04-20-2013, 04:15 AM	#21
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by Fontan I was told by a reliable source that tpm (ticks per minute) for this watch is only 60. This is very concerning. The term used by watch collectors is beats per minute and 60 would make these watches unique. But, because they're quartz, it really isn't a relevant measure.

04-20-2013, 05:23 AM	#22
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	I think they would look better in all black.

04-20-2013, 05:30 AM	#23
Apapukas Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Lietuva, Vilnius Posts: 627	I have a super hard time understanding this "Limited for japanese market" thing. What are they thinking? Does the money from the rest of the world isn't good enough? .................................

04-20-2013, 05:43 AM	#24
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by Apapukas I have a super hard time understanding this "Limited for japanese market" thing. What are they thinking? Does the money from the rest of the world isn't good enough? ................................. Very common with Japanese companies. Seiko, as an example using watches, has entire lines that are only available in Japan and are among their absolute best watches. I have gone through specialty middle-men in Japan in order to purchase special Seiko watches and would do so again if I could find the one last model that I want. Speaking as a recovering Watch Collector , these models are rather nice for the price they are asking (~$249). Often the promotion branded watches are just pure garbage. If you are into techno watches they present with some nice features, are water resistant to 10BAR, have sapphire crystals, are stainless steel in construction, alarms, dual time zones, and several other features. Among watch collectors I'm like the camera folks that use K1000s and other film-era cameras, I really have almost all manual and automatic watches. The three quartz watches that I have were gifts.

04-20-2013, 05:53 AM	#25
Apapukas Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Lietuva, Vilnius Posts: 627	Originally posted by Docrwm Very common with Japanese companies. Seiko, as an example using watches, has entire lines that are only available in Japan and are among their absolute best watches. I have gone through specialty middle-men in Japan in order to purchase special Seiko watches and would do so again if I could find the one last model that I want. Are they not losing money and reputation this way?

04-20-2013, 05:58 AM	#26
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	I don't know about watches, but sometimes regulatory restrictions and import duties on a product category make selling them in certain markets cost-prohibitive.

04-20-2013, 06:01 AM	#27
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by Apapukas Are they not losing money and reputation this way? No, not really. They see the distribution and support as significant investments. Seiko in the Home market supports their high-end products rather well. Providing the same caliber of support outside the Home market would be costly and not a certainty in their view. Distribution is another issue, as Pentax has seen in the US. The type of dedication that a major company receives, and gives, from its employees in Japan is not matched many other places. Also, only a few aficionados know about the truly marvelous watches made only for the Home market and we have found ways to obtain them despite our disadvantage of not being born Japanese

04-20-2013, 06:06 AM	#28
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	ew..look at that banding!- in all seriousness, I would consider getting the metal Pentax K watch.

04-20-2013, 06:08 AM	#29
Apapukas Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Lietuva, Vilnius Posts: 627	Originally posted by Docrwm No, not really. They see the distribution and support as significant investments. Seiko in the Home market supports their high-end products rather well. Providing the same caliber of support outside the Home market would be costly and not a certainty in their view. Distribution is another issue, as Pentax has seen in the US. The type of dedication that a major company receives, and gives, from its employees in Japan is not matched many other places. Also, only a few aficionados know about the truly marvelous watches made only for the Home market and we have found ways to obtain them despite our disadvantage of not being born Japanese That makes sense. I understand it now, thank you

04-20-2013, 06:20 AM - 1 Like	#30
StigVidar Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 705	Originally posted by Docrwm Also, only a few aficionados know about the truly marvelous watches made only for the Home market and we have found ways to obtain them despite our disadvantage of not being born Japanese I took me only a few minutes to order one last evening. I did it with my Tenso account which I have used for other "japanese only" items.