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04-24-2013, 10:43 PM   #61
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All this reminds me a 645D development.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
Except that Pentax now openly talks about it?
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It is the most assertive statement I have seen regarding Pentax's commitment to bring a FF DSLR to market
They already openly talked about it, and they were even more assertive about it, back when they had (and showed) a working prototype. So there is nothing new.

I hope they're just keeping their cards up their sleeve, and throw us a huge surprise failry soon though.
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Back then, they were planning to launch the product to market (but had to cancel it); of course they were assertive about it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
They already openly talked about it, and they were even more assertive about it, back when they had (and showed) a working prototype. So there is nothing new.

I hope they're just keeping their cards up their sleeve, and throw us a huge surprise failry soon though.
That was pre-Hoya. There were no indications at all during Hoya's reign that anything other than K7 sequels were coming. And interestingly colored lower end cameras.

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Oukhay, well just when I have desided that GR would be my next purchase, this kind a news shows up and makes me hesitate and freeze that thought... This I have to see first...
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Oukhay, well just when I have desided that GR would be my next purchase, this kind a news shows up and makes me hesitate and freeze that thought... This I have to see first...

I'm in the same boat. The GR looks amazing and I may still buy it but seeing as how I have been in a wait and see/saving my money situation anyway I can wait a little longer

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QuoteOriginally posted by LFLee Quote
A:2年前已有记者问过我关于全画幅单反相机的事情。我现在可以说,宾得的全画幅单反相机已在研发之中,并会是一款与众不同的全画幅。
A: A reporter asked me about FF DSLR two years ago as well. I can now say that PENTAX is currently developing a FF DSLR, and it will be a unique FF camera.
When he said "unique" my first thought was "Mark Newson"

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QuoteOriginally posted by NickLarsson Quote
He also said that there would be no more Ricoh-branded camera, which was wrong.
Link?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
It has been under developement for the last decade. This statement doesn't bring anything new to the table.
That's not correct. Pentax shelved the full-frame MX-D in 2000 because it did not fit their market. Until last year, Pentax executives repeatedly announced they were not working on a FF camera. Some here refused to believe this clear statement, for no reason that I can see.

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QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
That's not correct. Pentax shelved the full-frame MX-D in 2000 because it did not fit their market. Until last year, Pentax executives repeatedly announced they were not working on a FF camera. Some here refused to believe this clear statement, for no reason that I can see.
You mean the MZ-D? It was announced at Photokina 2000, demonstrated at PMA 2001, and cancelled in October 2001.

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The MZ-D was to use the same 6 megapixel (3072×2048) full 135 film frame sized (24×36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips that was used by the Contax N Digital. The lack of success of that camera and the image quality problems it displayed suggest to some that Pentax may have had other reasons than cost to cancel the MZ-D project. Michael Reichmann of The Luminous Landscape stated, "For whatever their reasons Pentax decided that they couldn't build a camera with this chip, while Contax decided to forge ahead. To save face? Possibly. We'll likely never know for sure."

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Link?
Re: Pentax Rumors: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

QuoteOriginally posted by asahi man:
Sorry,but NO K-1

K-? 24MP New Sensor

K-5IIs 16MP = K-5 Sensor

K-5II 16MP = K-5 Sensor

K-30 New Sensor

K-??? 16MP = K-30 Sensor

No more Ricoh cameras.

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QuoteOriginally posted by boriscleto Quote
You mean the MZ-D? It was announced at Photokina 2000, demonstrated at PMA 2001, and cancelled in October 2001.
Thanks for the correction, but my main point is that Pentax said for a decade that they were NOT interested in developing a full-frame DSLR. Only since Ricoh acquired Pentax has the story changed.
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<a href="http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/51019664" target="_blank">Re: Pentax Rumors: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review</a>
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Huh, a Guy on Dpr said so, not a pentax official.<br />
And the dpr guy listed Pentax DSLR. only DSLR.
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Thanks for the correction, but my main point is that Pentax said for a decade that they were NOT interested in developing a full-frame DSLR. Only since Ricoh acquired Pentax has the story changed.
Pre-Hoya, Pentax was all over the place with their ideas -- MZ-D, 645D -- all sorts of stuff floating around, but not particular focused plan and so nothing came in on time and pieces fit together. Under Hoya, it was all APS-C -- all of the messages came out were consistent with that and nothing was announced until it was actually ready for release (meaning that the lens map completely went away).

Ricoh has been signaling that they are taking a different path from Hoya, but it isn't totally clear to me yet, what that means. Hopefully a continued focused path, but including more high-end items that would have been too risky for Hoya corporation.
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Is Mr Shibata a Chinese market equivalent of Jim Malcolm of the PRIC USA? If he is, how come he can deliver more substantial, clearer and finally, more encouraging answers than his US comrade, all without indulging in unbelievable marketing utopia?

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