New PENTAX K-50

anthony mazzeri · 06-11-2013, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by rawr

Well, there was a photorumors story back in March that said 5 DSLR's, ranging from very cheap to very expensive. Maybe the K-500 is the bottom of that pile:

"Pentax is rumored to announce several new DSLR cameras (as early as this month, as many as 5 new DSLRs) which will be priced between $400 and $2000. I am not sure if one of those will be the long awaited full frame camera, but the $2000 price tag is just too high for an APS-C based camera (the full frame Nikon D600 costs exactly $2000). In addition, Pentax will introduce also a new compact APS-C based camera similar to the new Nikon Coolpix A which will be priced at around $700 ($400 cheaper than the Coolpix A). Maybe this will be the Ricoh GR Digital V camera that is rumored to have an APS-C sensor?"

Pentax rumored to announce several new DSLRs and a new compact APS-C camera | Photo Rumors

They certainly got the GR dead-on. So assume the rest is accurate too.

So how does 5 new DSLRs work? A K-500 and a K-50, that's 2 entry-level models. And then maybe a K-3 and K-3s, that makes 4. So what can the 5th model be? A K-30s maybe?

rawr · 06-11-2013, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by anthony mazzeri

a k-30s maybe?

k-k? K-1x? LX-D?

anthony mazzeri · 06-11-2013, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

I am already confused by Pentax naming convention, I think maybe they just pull names out of a hat. Adding a 'K' camera without a K-mount would complete my confusion. Maybe k-5000 is replacement for k-01. (Not that it is real since I think it was just invented in this thread back a few posts)

Looks like they're moving away from their r and x names and going with a Canikon-style numeric naming convention - K-500, K-50, K-5 - the digits diminishing as you move up the food-chain.

So that makes for a '5-series'. And maybe a 3-series as well - K-30 and K-3. So a K-300 too?

mamethot · 06-11-2013, 06:58 PM

Maybe a 3 series would be sealed, a 5 series wouldn't?

**jatrax** · 06-11-2013, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by mamethot

aybe a 3 series would be sealed, a 5 series wouldn't?

k-5 is sealed. And naming the new cameras with '5' is odd as everyone has assumed k-5 was nearing end of life. When k-30 was announced the assumption was that a k-3 (new high end aps-c) and a k-300 (new entry level aps-c) would be added to the line to make k-3, k-30, k-300.

Now we have k-5, k-30, k-50. Yes, that is much clearer./sarc

So if we assume new line up will be k-5, k-50, k-500 and k-30 is retired then there is no k-3 to be announced and k-5II is what we get for high end for the foreseeable future.

ruggiex · 06-11-2013, 07:29 PM

good god these naming conventions suck...

**mattt** · 06-11-2013, 07:41 PM

dont forget the 645D mk II....

ElJamoquio · 06-11-2013, 07:53 PM

Please, please, please, PLEASE make the K-500 have the same sensor. It would shock my system too much to have Pentax release a camera with a different sensor.

Racer X 69 · 06-11-2013, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by ruggiex

good god these naming conventions suck...

And they don't really follow any logical order either.

*iStDL

K10

K20

K5

K30?

Looks like they are regressing.

Biro · 06-11-2013, 08:42 PM

And don't forget the K-01. Not a DSLR but still a K-mount body.

tallgeese · 06-12-2013, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by geomez

Looks like a K-30 replacement. My only question is why?

My question as well, not a smart plan anyway

Cynog Ap Brychan · 06-12-2013, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by Racer X 69

And they don't really follow any logical order either.
*iStDL
K10
K20
K5
K30?
Looks like they are regressing.

You forgot the K-7.....

ogl · 06-12-2013, 02:17 AM

Pentax always had only 2 DSLR in production line in digital era. Any new camera means discontinuing of old one.
K-50 replaces K-30. K-30 will be in photo-stores for some time, of course. But K-30 will become the rare bird close to September.

Fogel70 · 06-12-2013, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Pentax always had only 2 DSLR in production line in digital era. Any new camera means discontinuing of old one.
K-50 replaces K-30. K-30 will be in photo-stores for some time, of course. But K-30 will become the rare bird close to September.

This has varied over time, and since they introduced 645D they have had at least 3 DSLR in the lineup. If counting K5 II and K5 IIs as separate models, they have 4 today.

Even before 645D they sometimes have had more than 2 DSLR in production, at least when they had K100D, K110D and K10D.
I think they also produced *ist DL, *ist DL2, *ist DS and *ist DL2 at a limited period. But *ist DL2 and *ist DL2 did not exist very long, and I don't think they were sold on all markets. At least in Europe I believe it was only Samsungs version of *ist DL2 and *ist DS2 that where available.

ogl · 06-12-2013, 03:25 AM

645D is MF camera. Another niche.

K-30, K-5II/IIs - two cameras. If you want - 3 cameras.

There is the rumor about K-500. It could be good to offer entry-level (like K-x) camera.

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06-11-2013, 06:52 PM	#526
anthony mazzeri Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 312	Originally posted by rawr Well, there was a photorumors story back in March that said 5 DSLR's, ranging from very cheap to very expensive. Maybe the K-500 is the bottom of that pile: "Pentax is rumored to announce several new DSLR cameras (as early as this month, as many as 5 new DSLRs) which will be priced between $400 and $2000. I am not sure if one of those will be the long awaited full frame camera, but the $2000 price tag is just too high for an APS-C based camera (the full frame Nikon D600 costs exactly $2000). In addition, Pentax will introduce also a new compact APS-C based camera similar to the new Nikon Coolpix A which will be priced at around $700 ($400 cheaper than the Coolpix A). Maybe this will be the Ricoh GR Digital V camera that is rumored to have an APS-C sensor?" Pentax rumored to announce several new DSLRs and a new compact APS-C camera \| Photo Rumors They certainly got the GR dead-on. So assume the rest is accurate too. So how does 5 new DSLRs work? A K-500 and a K-50, that's 2 entry-level models. And then maybe a K-3 and K-3s, that makes 4. So what can the 5th model be? A K-30s maybe?

06-11-2013, 06:56 PM	#527
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by anthony mazzeri a k-30s maybe? k-k? K-1x? LX-D?

06-11-2013, 06:57 PM	#528
anthony mazzeri Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 312	Originally posted by jatrax I am already confused by Pentax naming convention, I think maybe they just pull names out of a hat. Adding a 'K' camera without a K-mount would complete my confusion. Maybe k-5000 is replacement for k-01. (Not that it is real since I think it was just invented in this thread back a few posts) Looks like they're moving away from their r and x names and going with a Canikon-style numeric naming convention - K-500, K-50, K-5 - the digits diminishing as you move up the food-chain. So that makes for a '5-series'. And maybe a 3-series as well - K-30 and K-3. So a K-300 too?

06-11-2013, 06:58 PM	#529
mamethot Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Greater Montreal Area Posts: 736	Maybe a 3 series would be sealed, a 5 series wouldn't?

06-11-2013, 07:13 PM	#530
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by mamethot aybe a 3 series would be sealed, a 5 series wouldn't? k-5 is sealed. And naming the new cameras with '5' is odd as everyone has assumed k-5 was nearing end of life. When k-30 was announced the assumption was that a k-3 (new high end aps-c) and a k-300 (new entry level aps-c) would be added to the line to make k-3, k-30, k-300. Now we have k-5, k-30, k-50. Yes, that is much clearer./sarc So if we assume new line up will be k-5, k-50, k-500 and k-30 is retired then there is no k-3 to be announced and k-5II is what we get for high end for the foreseeable future.

06-11-2013, 07:29 PM	#531
ruggiex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: East Bay Area Photos: Gallery Posts: 811	good god these naming conventions suck...

06-11-2013, 07:41 PM	#532
mattt Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,907	dont forget the 645D mk II....

06-11-2013, 07:53 PM	#533
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Please, please, please, PLEASE make the K-500 have the same sensor. It would shock my system too much to have Pentax release a camera with a different sensor.

06-11-2013, 08:27 PM	#534
Racer X 69 Moderator Man With A Camera Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,067	Originally posted by ruggiex good god these naming conventions suck... And they don't really follow any logical order either. *iStDL K10 K20 K5 K30? Looks like they are regressing.

06-11-2013, 08:42 PM	#535
Biro Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,200	And don't forget the K-01. Not a DSLR but still a K-mount body.

06-12-2013, 12:01 AM	#536
tallgeese Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Melbourne Posts: 31	Originally posted by geomez Looks like a K-30 replacement. My only question is why? My question as well, not a smart plan anyway

06-12-2013, 12:47 AM	#537
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by Racer X 69 And they don't really follow any logical order either. *iStDL K10 K20 K5 K30? Looks like they are regressing. You forgot the K-7.....

06-12-2013, 02:17 AM	#538
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Pentax always had only 2 DSLR in production line in digital era. Any new camera means discontinuing of old one. K-50 replaces K-30. K-30 will be in photo-stores for some time, of course. But K-30 will become the rare bird close to September.

06-12-2013, 03:22 AM	#539
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Originally posted by ogl Pentax always had only 2 DSLR in production line in digital era. Any new camera means discontinuing of old one. K-50 replaces K-30. K-30 will be in photo-stores for some time, of course. But K-30 will become the rare bird close to September. This has varied over time, and since they introduced 645D they have had at least 3 DSLR in the lineup. If counting K5 II and K5 IIs as separate models, they have 4 today. Even before 645D they sometimes have had more than 2 DSLR in production, at least when they had K100D, K110D and K10D. I think they also produced ist DL, ist DL2, ist DS and ist DL2 at a limited period. But ist DL2 and ist DL2 did not exist very long, and I don't think they were sold on all markets. At least in Europe I believe it was only Samsungs version of ist DL2 and ist DS2 that where available.

06-12-2013, 03:25 AM	#540
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	645D is MF camera. Another niche. K-30, K-5II/IIs - two cameras. If you want - 3 cameras. There is the rumor about K-500. It could be good to offer entry-level (like K-x) camera.