Pentax K-500, K-50, and Q7 cameras officially announced!

cali92rs · 06-14-2013, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Just borrow the cameras for an hour or so; there are differences beyond what a quick glance at a spec list could reveal. It only takes one single frame with each camera to get started

I dont know where you live, but i dont even know anyone else with a Pentax...i do know of a shop around here that stocks Pentax items, but they certainly wont let you borrow multiple cameras for an hour each. That is one of the disadvantages to Pentax, we have to rely on reviews, specs lists etc because we are limited by how much we can handle the camera.

Shall · 06-14-2013, 09:18 AM

Was just about to buy a K5ii but now I am thinking the K50 is a cheaper option. Spec is very similar as far as I can see other than the magnesium alloy casing, 7fps vs 6, and 14 bit Raw vs 12 bit. Can anyone suggest other reasons to buy a K5ii over the K50?

IchabodCrane · 06-14-2013, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by Docrwm

I said " production/not discontinued." and you can find lists of discontinued on the Pentax official websites. As for production, Pentax has said that the Q10 will stay in the lineup on their overview of the Q7 on their websites.

I don't see where they say the Q10 will stay in production. Instead, I found this: "Joining the already successful Q10, the Q7 features an upgraded 1/1.7 inch....".

No camera is going to be listed as discontinued until they sell most if not all of the remaining inventory. That's different than still being in production.

ogl · 06-14-2013, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by cali92rs

Better dust removal? I havent heard that...the sensor shakes faster?

Absolutely different systems. Pentax has like Olympus had - ultrasonic dust removal - HIGH efficiency.

K-5II has more functions than K-30/50. I'm lazy to find all differences...Sorry.

K-5IIs is the TOP camera for me. Amazing work. The best camera Pentax ever made.
But to say honest - it's only one diamond in the line of all digitals cameras of Pentax. IMO. Of course

timcatn · 06-14-2013, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Shall

Was just about to buy a K5ii but now I am thinking the K50 is a cheaper option. Spec is very similar as far as I can see other than the magnesium alloy casing, 7fps vs 6, and 14 bit Raw vs 12 bit. Can anyone suggest other reasons to buy a K5ii over the K50?

I had the Kr before upgrading to K5c. A friend bought a K30 at about the same time. The top LCD on the K5's i find really handy. It means i can have the rear LCD permanently off (almost), which saves battery. Not having to look in the viewfinder to see the settings i find very helpful. When it comes to image output, they are very similar.

**boriscleto** · 06-14-2013, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Shall

Was just about to buy a K5ii but now I am thinking the K50 is a cheaper option. Spec is very similar as far as I can see other than the magnesium alloy casing, 7fps vs 6, and 14 bit Raw vs 12 bit. Can anyone suggest other reasons to buy a K5ii over the K50?

You might want a grip someday...and you might want to attach an external microphone.

Kunzite · 06-14-2013, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by cali92rs

I dont know where you live, but i dont even know anyone else with a Pentax...i do know of a shop around here that stocks Pentax items, but they certainly wont let you borrow multiple cameras for an hour each. That is one of the disadvantages to Pentax, we have to rely on reviews, specs lists etc because we are limited by how much we can handle the camera.

I live in Bucharest, which is Romania's capital city. I have no issue finding Pentax equipment in stores (not the most expensive stuff, that's usually order-only items), usually I'd go directly to our Pentax distributor; but I reckon in other large Romanian towns that could not be possible.
I'm not suggesting to borrow from stores though, that's what friends are for

(too bad it's not possible in your case)

But anyway, the point was that there are differences not necessarily found in specs lists, and best discovered via hands-on experience. Hopefully this will become easier in the future.

cali92rs · 06-14-2013, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I'm not suggesting to borrow from stores though, that's what friends are for

(too bad it's not possible in your case)

But anyway, the point was that there are differences not necessarily found in specs lists, and best discovered via hands-on experience. Hopefully this will become easier in the future.

I suspect that that is the case with lots of people...when 19 of 20 twenty cameras sold are other brands, i think I am hardly alone in being the only one in a group with Pentax

Regarding having hands-on experience, I agree, I hope it does become easier, and Ricoh has indicated that they want to be in more B&M stores. I think the best salesman of a camera is the camera itself, the way it feels, it's size, heft, ergonomics etc. That is hard (impossible?) to judge without playing with the camera.

**monochrome** · 06-14-2013, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by cali92rs

I dont know where you live, but i dont even know anyone else with a Pentax...i do know of a shop around here that stocks Pentax items, but they certainly wont let you borrow multiple cameras for an hour each. That is one of the disadvantages to Pentax, we have to rely on reviews, specs lists etc because we are limited by how much we can handle the camera.

We're awfully, fortunate to have Creve Couer Camera here is St. Louis, who stock a decent array of Pentax and from time to time run a Co-op ad or Dealer Event. The South County store is the mosr Pentax friendly, including legacy gear. The Olive and Ballas (AKA Soccer-Mom City) the least Pentax friendly.

Docrwm · 06-14-2013, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by IchabodCrane

I don't see where they say the Q10 will stay in production. Instead, I found this: "Joining the already successful Q10, the Q7 features an upgraded 1/1.7 inch....".

No camera is going to be listed as discontinued until they sell most if not all of the remaining inventory. That's different than still being in production.

Quibble, quibble, quibble. This is getting old. As for your assumptions, don't care. Thanks. Out.

cali92rs · 06-14-2013, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

We're awfully, fortunate to have Creve Couer Camera here is St. Louis, who stock a decent array of Pentax and from time to time run a Co-op ad or Dealer Event. The South County store is the mosr Pentax friendly, including legacy gear. The Olive and Ballas (AKA Soccer-Mom City) the least Pentax friendly.

I gotta check out the south county store...I am real close to Olive store so that is the one I frequent. Interesting that you found them the least Pentax friendly. Coming from San Diego, where there was NO pentax presence, I find Creve Couer Camera to be a breath of fresh air.

**monochrome** · 06-14-2013, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by cali92rs

I gotta check out the south county store...I am real close to Olive store so that is the one I frequent. Interesting that you found them the least Pentax friendly. Coming from San Diego, where there was NO pentax presence, I find Creve Couer Camera to be a breath of fresh air.

Yes. We are fortunate. I try to buy from them whenever they can get close - say no more than 25% over the web. Plus legacy. In defense of the Creve Couer store (namesake and flagship), the people who live out there generally want Canon or Nikon on the camera, or want to buy whatever is hot at the moment they're in the store. I know plenty of examples personally.

miroshi · 06-14-2013, 12:05 PM

If IQ and focus accuracy and speed on k-50 and k-5IIs are same I would prefer k-50. Using of AA battery and li-ion battery is very useful

I will keep reading opinions about this cameras. For me is important to have better quality from the camera because i don't want many lenses - 2 or 3 maximum. And i don't like to work on my pictures with photoshop or gimp.

And i want good support for o-gps for astro-photograpy

Adam · 06-14-2013, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by miroshi

If IQ and focus accuracy and speed on k-50 and k-5IIs are same I would prefer k-50. Using of AA battery and li-ion battery is very useful

I will keep reading opinions about this cameras. For me is important to have better quality from the camera because i don't want many lenses - 2 or 3 maximum. And i don't like to work on my pictures with photoshop or gimp.

The K-5 II has a newer AF system, but we have a comparison between the K-30's and the K-5's AF in our K-30 review.

As for image quality, both have the same sensor, but the K-5 has an edge thanks to its 14-bit raw.

kyteflyer · 06-14-2013, 10:27 PM

Do we know what the actual release schedule for these are? I'm really interested in the Q7, I like that sensor size for a compact and when paired with these lenses... gotta be wonderful. I'd love to be able to land one before going to see Fleetwood Mac in November

(local venues dont allow "professional" gear, but compacts are OK)

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06-14-2013, 09:11 AM	#286
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by Kunzite Just borrow the cameras for an hour or so; there are differences beyond what a quick glance at a spec list could reveal. It only takes one single frame with each camera to get started I dont know where you live, but i dont even know anyone else with a Pentax...i do know of a shop around here that stocks Pentax items, but they certainly wont let you borrow multiple cameras for an hour each. That is one of the disadvantages to Pentax, we have to rely on reviews, specs lists etc because we are limited by how much we can handle the camera.

06-14-2013, 09:18 AM	#287
Shall New Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 3	Was just about to buy a K5ii but now I am thinking the K50 is a cheaper option. Spec is very similar as far as I can see other than the magnesium alloy casing, 7fps vs 6, and 14 bit Raw vs 12 bit. Can anyone suggest other reasons to buy a K5ii over the K50?

06-14-2013, 09:38 AM	#288
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	Originally posted by Docrwm I said " production/not discontinued." and you can find lists of discontinued on the Pentax official websites. As for production, Pentax has said that the Q10 will stay in the lineup on their overview of the Q7 on their websites. I don't see where they say the Q10 will stay in production. Instead, I found this: "Joining the already successful Q10, the Q7 features an upgraded 1/1.7 inch....". No camera is going to be listed as discontinued until they sell most if not all of the remaining inventory. That's different than still being in production.

06-14-2013, 09:45 AM	#289
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by cali92rs Better dust removal? I havent heard that...the sensor shakes faster? Absolutely different systems. Pentax has like Olympus had - ultrasonic dust removal - HIGH efficiency. K-5II has more functions than K-30/50. I'm lazy to find all differences...Sorry. K-5IIs is the TOP camera for me. Amazing work. The best camera Pentax ever made. But to say honest - it's only one diamond in the line of all digitals cameras of Pentax. IMO. Of course

06-14-2013, 09:50 AM	#290
timcatn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Trondheim Posts: 237	Originally posted by Shall Was just about to buy a K5ii but now I am thinking the K50 is a cheaper option. Spec is very similar as far as I can see other than the magnesium alloy casing, 7fps vs 6, and 14 bit Raw vs 12 bit. Can anyone suggest other reasons to buy a K5ii over the K50? I had the Kr before upgrading to K5c. A friend bought a K30 at about the same time. The top LCD on the K5's i find really handy. It means i can have the rear LCD permanently off (almost), which saves battery. Not having to look in the viewfinder to see the settings i find very helpful. When it comes to image output, they are very similar.

06-14-2013, 09:50 AM	#291
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by Shall Was just about to buy a K5ii but now I am thinking the K50 is a cheaper option. Spec is very similar as far as I can see other than the magnesium alloy casing, 7fps vs 6, and 14 bit Raw vs 12 bit. Can anyone suggest other reasons to buy a K5ii over the K50? You might want a grip someday...and you might want to attach an external microphone.

06-14-2013, 09:55 AM	#292
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by cali92rs I dont know where you live, but i dont even know anyone else with a Pentax...i do know of a shop around here that stocks Pentax items, but they certainly wont let you borrow multiple cameras for an hour each. That is one of the disadvantages to Pentax, we have to rely on reviews, specs lists etc because we are limited by how much we can handle the camera. I live in Bucharest, which is Romania's capital city. I have no issue finding Pentax equipment in stores (not the most expensive stuff, that's usually order-only items), usually I'd go directly to our Pentax distributor; but I reckon in other large Romanian towns that could not be possible. I'm not suggesting to borrow from stores though, that's what friends are for (too bad it's not possible in your case) But anyway, the point was that there are differences not necessarily found in specs lists, and best discovered via hands-on experience. Hopefully this will become easier in the future.

06-14-2013, 10:01 AM	#293
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by Kunzite I'm not suggesting to borrow from stores though, that's what friends are for (too bad it's not possible in your case) But anyway, the point was that there are differences not necessarily found in specs lists, and best discovered via hands-on experience. Hopefully this will become easier in the future. I suspect that that is the case with lots of people...when 19 of 20 twenty cameras sold are other brands, i think I am hardly alone in being the only one in a group with Pentax Regarding having hands-on experience, I agree, I hope it does become easier, and Ricoh has indicated that they want to be in more B&M stores. I think the best salesman of a camera is the camera itself, the way it feels, it's size, heft, ergonomics etc. That is hard (impossible?) to judge without playing with the camera.

06-14-2013, 11:07 AM	#294
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by cali92rs I dont know where you live, but i dont even know anyone else with a Pentax...i do know of a shop around here that stocks Pentax items, but they certainly wont let you borrow multiple cameras for an hour each. That is one of the disadvantages to Pentax, we have to rely on reviews, specs lists etc because we are limited by how much we can handle the camera. We're awfully, fortunate to have Creve Couer Camera here is St. Louis, who stock a decent array of Pentax and from time to time run a Co-op ad or Dealer Event. The South County store is the mosr Pentax friendly, including legacy gear. The Olive and Ballas (AKA Soccer-Mom City) the least Pentax friendly.

06-14-2013, 11:28 AM	#295
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Originally posted by IchabodCrane I don't see where they say the Q10 will stay in production. Instead, I found this: "Joining the already successful Q10, the Q7 features an upgraded 1/1.7 inch....". No camera is going to be listed as discontinued until they sell most if not all of the remaining inventory. That's different than still being in production. Quibble, quibble, quibble. This is getting old. As for your assumptions, don't care. Thanks. Out.

06-14-2013, 11:38 AM	#296
cali92rs Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 3,354	Originally posted by monochrome We're awfully, fortunate to have Creve Couer Camera here is St. Louis, who stock a decent array of Pentax and from time to time run a Co-op ad or Dealer Event. The South County store is the mosr Pentax friendly, including legacy gear. The Olive and Ballas (AKA Soccer-Mom City) the least Pentax friendly. I gotta check out the south county store...I am real close to Olive store so that is the one I frequent. Interesting that you found them the least Pentax friendly. Coming from San Diego, where there was NO pentax presence, I find Creve Couer Camera to be a breath of fresh air.

06-14-2013, 11:51 AM	#297
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by cali92rs I gotta check out the south county store...I am real close to Olive store so that is the one I frequent. Interesting that you found them the least Pentax friendly. Coming from San Diego, where there was NO pentax presence, I find Creve Couer Camera to be a breath of fresh air. Yes. We are fortunate. I try to buy from them whenever they can get close - say no more than 25% over the web. Plus legacy. In defense of the Creve Couer store (namesake and flagship), the people who live out there generally want Canon or Nikon on the camera, or want to buy whatever is hot at the moment they're in the store. I know plenty of examples personally.

06-14-2013, 12:05 PM	#298
miroshi Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sofia Posts: 28	If IQ and focus accuracy and speed on k-50 and k-5IIs are same I would prefer k-50. Using of AA battery and li-ion battery is very useful I will keep reading opinions about this cameras. For me is important to have better quality from the camera because i don't want many lenses - 2 or 3 maximum. And i don't like to work on my pictures with photoshop or gimp. And i want good support for o-gps for astro-photograpy

06-14-2013, 10:27 PM	#300
kyteflyer Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Newcastle, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,444	Do we know what the actual release schedule for these are? I'm really interested in the Q7, I like that sensor size for a compact and when paired with these lenses... gotta be wonderful. I'd love to be able to land one before going to see Fleetwood Mac in November (local venues dont allow "professional" gear, but compacts are OK)