Rumors about a new Ricoh GXR camera surface online

monoloco · 07-08-2013, 07:19 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan

This is reported in Photo Rumors. Does anyone have any inkling if there's any substance in it?

Rumors about a new Ricoh GXR camera surface online | Photo Rumors

Maybe they're going to release it in some pretty colors.

doghunter · 07-08-2013, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by Uluru

Of course. Silly me.
K-mount is FF crippled by Pentax and their inept marketing and sales reps.

GXR camera is tiny, K-mount FF lensor will be very big. It will be funny.

JPT · 07-08-2013, 07:56 AM

I don't know how far I believe this rumour, but the GXR is a very well made camera. I think there are some interesting possibilities with the mount rail design. They've only scratched the surface with the units they've launched so far.

Imagine if you owned 2 bodies - a small one like the existing GXR and another one with a big grip, battery and a high quality EVF, feeling like a DSLR. And then you had a selection of K-mount units, one with a 16mp sensor and a very high frame rate and great video, one with very high resolution but not as fast and another black and white one, like the Leica monochrome model. They could offer FF and APS-C, Q-mount, and continue offering M-mount. There are many possibilities. And of course you have your selection of K-mount lenses.

This would be like building your own camera each time you go out to shoot. "Today I want to go out and shoot B&W in a small camera with my DA21." You could also upgrade the sensor unit quite easily and it would not be stuck in one body.

**monochrome** · 07-08-2013, 08:15 AM

Didn't our ex-member with the Blog-that-shall-not-be-named have a post about some Korean intoxicated businessman claiming (RE: FF), "There will be tears in Pentaxland come fall"?

IchabodCrane · 07-08-2013, 08:19 AM - **1 Like**

The only current GXR offering that makes any sense (to me) is the A12 M Mount. Why fuse a lens to a sensor? It destroys the whole idea of "interchangeable lenses".

**THoog** · 07-08-2013, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

Didn't our ex-member with the Blog-that-shall-not-be-named have a post about some Korean intoxicated businessman claiming (RE: FF), "There will be tears in Pentaxland come fall"?

Don't know about RH, but someone with a low post count said something like that a couple months back, saying their tipsy source was "reliable".

And of course, I can trust anyone who says their anonymous source is "reliable", just like I can trust those emails from Nigeria that say "this is not a scam".

Or the other emails regarding certain pharmaceuticals, that say "this stuff really works!".

Zygonyx · 07-08-2013, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Uluru

In the world over-saturated with ever cheaper APS-C mirrorless system cameras that become worthless before they even start shipping, only a GXR with an FF sensor makes sense. In K mount and M mount versions.
Then it has a chance to be noticed, stand out, shift perceptions, and be relevant in the future too.

+1

Something like that would be OK for me, especially if FF sensor inside

Clavius · 07-08-2013, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by JPT

I don't know how far I believe this rumour, but the GXR is a very well made camera. I think there are some interesting possibilities with the mount rail design. They've only scratched the surface with the units they've launched so far.

Imagine if you owned 2 bodies - a small one like the existing GXR and another one with a big grip, battery and a high quality EVF, feeling like a DSLR. And then you had a selection of K-mount units, one with a 16mp sensor and a very high frame rate and great video, one with very high resolution but not as fast and another black and white one, like the Leica monochrome model. They could offer FF and APS-C, Q-mount, and continue offering M-mount. There are many possibilities. And of course you have your selection of K-mount lenses.

This would be like building your own camera each time you go out to shoot. "Today I want to go out and shoot B&W in a small camera with my DA21." You could also upgrade the sensor unit quite easily and it would not be stuck in one body.

+1

I very much like the idea of an SLR shaped high end mirrorless. None of the manufactures has done that yet. I would already love if it just had a K-mount. But being able to swap the mounts with their sensors would be absolute magic.

This would be smart for Ricoh too. Imagine the aftermarket possibilities. No longer just selling lenses to users that bought the body, but also mountors, and maybe even exchangeable EVF's.

Uluru · 07-08-2013, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Didn't our ex-member with the Blog-that-shall-not-be-named have a post about some Korean intoxicated businessman claiming (RE: FF), "There will be tears in Pentaxland come fall"?

What it means "there will be tears..."?

Tears only? Out of exhilaration?

Or tears with agonising screams?

Clavius · 07-08-2013, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Didn't our ex-member with the Blog-that-shall-not-be-named have a post about some Korean intoxicated businessman claiming (RE: FF), "There will be tears in Pentaxland come fall"?

Even more tears? Or just the current tears continuing and accumulating?

It's true though, if Pentax doesn't market a killer flagship camera soon, there certainly will be tears.

**Aristophanes** · 07-08-2013, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by Clavius

I very much like the idea of an SLR shaped high end mirrorless. None of the manufactures has done that yet.

Like the Olympus OM-D?

It's shaped like a DSLR to accommodate the EVF along the central access and for ergonomics, and it is mirrorless being an m43.

It's also quite expensive,especially relative to sensor size. Lovely camera, but not very good AF for the price IMO.

Urkeldaedalus · 07-08-2013, 04:00 PM

As a former GXR owner, a GXR body unit with a built in viewfinder would be a nice upgrade. Hard to know what to think of their plans for a future GXR, though. Their M mount unit sold pretty well from what I understand, so I could see them building on that success, more likely with the 16 mp no AA filter APS-C sensor approach again than a FF sensor, but who knows what they are planning.

mecrox · 07-08-2013, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Didn't our ex-member with the Blog-that-shall-not-be-named have a post about some Korean intoxicated businessman claiming (RE: FF), "There will be tears in Pentaxland come fall"?

The only way I can see that making any sense is Pentax sticking to APS-C DSLRs and all the rest, including FF and all the goodies, is Ricoh's. However, since that would slowly though surely mean the demise of Pentax as first high-end then other users drifted away, I'm not sure it makes any sense at all. Pentax has few enough users as it is, without upsetting the ones who buy all the lenses. Unless Ricoh's motive in buying Pentax wasn't to make something of Pentax but was to sort out Ricoh's own camera operation by, effectively, buying a fix in the form of turnover and expertise - something I've long suspected. But that is another story. Pass the sake please.

Tonto · 07-08-2013, 04:36 PM

Just to rustle up the feathers, how about a totally new mount for FF? Make it purpose made to have modular adapters to enable AF for a vas array of lenses. Super small updates of the FA ltds for the reduced register distance.

Clavius · 07-09-2013, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Like the Olympus OM-D?

It's shaped like a DSLR to accommodate the EVF along the central access and for ergonomics, and it is mirrorless being an m43.

It's also quite expensive,especially relative to sensor size. Lovely camera, but not very good AF for the price IMO.

Yes, exactly that, but with a larger sensor and a Pentax price.

Originally posted by Tonto

Just to rustle up the feathers, how about a totally new mount for FF? Make it purpose made to have modular adapters to enable AF for a vas array of lenses. Super small updates of the FA ltds for the reduced register distance.

That would only make sense if it would actually solve an issue with the current K-mount. People here keep telling me that K-mount fully supports an FF sensor with IBIS. (I still don't believe them though.)

07-08-2013, 01:35 PM	#25
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by monochrome Didn't our ex-member with the Blog-that-shall-not-be-named have a post about some Korean intoxicated businessman claiming (RE: FF), "There will be tears in Pentaxland come fall"? Even more tears? Or just the current tears continuing and accumulating? It's true though, if Pentax doesn't market a killer flagship camera soon, there certainly will be tears. Last edited by Clavius; 07-09-2013 at 02:14 AM.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Ricoh GXR camera body and two lens modules listed as discontinued	i83N	Pentax News and Rumors	17	05-03-2013 02:37 PM
Ricoh GXR + A16 users' feedback	SOldBear	Ricoh GR	7	03-06-2013 05:14 PM
Any K-5 shooters ever shot a Ricoh GXR	CMG	Pentax K-5 & K-5 II	3	09-07-2012 03:49 PM
Can we expect a Ricoh GXR K-mount?	LFLee	Pentax DSLR Discussion	14	05-10-2012 08:53 AM
New Ricoh/Pentax rumors surface today...	JohnBee	Pentax News and Rumors	134	01-15-2012 10:28 AM

07-08-2013, 07:19 AM - 1 Like	#16
monoloco Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Pescadero BCS Mexico Posts: 286	Originally posted by Cynog Ap Brychan This is reported in Photo Rumors. Does anyone have any inkling if there's any substance in it? Rumors about a new Ricoh GXR camera surface online \| Photo Rumors Maybe they're going to release it in some pretty colors.

07-08-2013, 07:48 AM	#17
doghunter Banned Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 6	Originally posted by Uluru Of course. Silly me. K-mount is FF crippled by Pentax and their inept marketing and sales reps. GXR camera is tiny, K-mount FF lensor will be very big. It will be funny.

07-08-2013, 07:56 AM	#18
JPT Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,821	I don't know how far I believe this rumour, but the GXR is a very well made camera. I think there are some interesting possibilities with the mount rail design. They've only scratched the surface with the units they've launched so far. Imagine if you owned 2 bodies - a small one like the existing GXR and another one with a big grip, battery and a high quality EVF, feeling like a DSLR. And then you had a selection of K-mount units, one with a 16mp sensor and a very high frame rate and great video, one with very high resolution but not as fast and another black and white one, like the Leica monochrome model. They could offer FF and APS-C, Q-mount, and continue offering M-mount. There are many possibilities. And of course you have your selection of K-mount lenses. This would be like building your own camera each time you go out to shoot. "Today I want to go out and shoot B&W in a small camera with my DA21." You could also upgrade the sensor unit quite easily and it would not be stuck in one body.

07-08-2013, 08:15 AM	#19
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Didn't our ex-member with the Blog-that-shall-not-be-named have a post about some Korean intoxicated businessman claiming (RE: FF), "There will be tears in Pentaxland come fall"?

07-08-2013, 08:19 AM - 1 Like	#20
IchabodCrane Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,728	The only current GXR offering that makes any sense (to me) is the A12 M Mount. Why fuse a lens to a sensor? It destroys the whole idea of "interchangeable lenses".

07-08-2013, 09:56 AM	#21
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by monochrome Didn't our ex-member with the Blog-that-shall-not-be-named have a post about some Korean intoxicated businessman claiming (RE: FF), "There will be tears in Pentaxland come fall"? Don't know about RH, but someone with a low post count said something like that a couple months back, saying their tipsy source was "reliable". And of course, I can trust anyone who says their anonymous source is "reliable", just like I can trust those emails from Nigeria that say "this is not a scam". Or the other emails regarding certain pharmaceuticals, that say "this stuff really works!".

07-08-2013, 12:37 PM	#22
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by Uluru In the world over-saturated with ever cheaper APS-C mirrorless system cameras that become worthless before they even start shipping, only a GXR with an FF sensor makes sense. In K mount and M mount versions. Then it has a chance to be noticed, stand out, shift perceptions, and be relevant in the future too. +1 Something like that would be OK for me, especially if FF sensor inside

07-08-2013, 01:01 PM	#23
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by JPT I don't know how far I believe this rumour, but the GXR is a very well made camera. I think there are some interesting possibilities with the mount rail design. They've only scratched the surface with the units they've launched so far. Imagine if you owned 2 bodies - a small one like the existing GXR and another one with a big grip, battery and a high quality EVF, feeling like a DSLR. And then you had a selection of K-mount units, one with a 16mp sensor and a very high frame rate and great video, one with very high resolution but not as fast and another black and white one, like the Leica monochrome model. They could offer FF and APS-C, Q-mount, and continue offering M-mount. There are many possibilities. And of course you have your selection of K-mount lenses. This would be like building your own camera each time you go out to shoot. "Today I want to go out and shoot B&W in a small camera with my DA21." You could also upgrade the sensor unit quite easily and it would not be stuck in one body. +1 I very much like the idea of an SLR shaped high end mirrorless. None of the manufactures has done that yet. I would already love if it just had a K-mount. But being able to swap the mounts with their sensors would be absolute magic. This would be smart for Ricoh too. Imagine the aftermarket possibilities. No longer just selling lenses to users that bought the body, but also mountors, and maybe even exchangeable EVF's.

07-08-2013, 01:26 PM	#24
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by monochrome Didn't our ex-member with the Blog-that-shall-not-be-named have a post about some Korean intoxicated businessman claiming (RE: FF), "There will be tears in Pentaxland come fall"? What it means "there will be tears..."? Tears only? Out of exhilaration? Or tears with agonising screams?

07-08-2013, 03:17 PM	#26
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by Clavius I very much like the idea of an SLR shaped high end mirrorless. None of the manufactures has done that yet. Like the Olympus OM-D? It's shaped like a DSLR to accommodate the EVF along the central access and for ergonomics, and it is mirrorless being an m43. It's also quite expensive,especially relative to sensor size. Lovely camera, but not very good AF for the price IMO.

07-08-2013, 04:00 PM	#27
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369	As a former GXR owner, a GXR body unit with a built in viewfinder would be a nice upgrade. Hard to know what to think of their plans for a future GXR, though. Their M mount unit sold pretty well from what I understand, so I could see them building on that success, more likely with the 16 mp no AA filter APS-C sensor approach again than a FF sensor, but who knows what they are planning.

07-08-2013, 04:20 PM	#28
mecrox Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxford, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,375	Originally posted by monochrome Didn't our ex-member with the Blog-that-shall-not-be-named have a post about some Korean intoxicated businessman claiming (RE: FF), "There will be tears in Pentaxland come fall"? The only way I can see that making any sense is Pentax sticking to APS-C DSLRs and all the rest, including FF and all the goodies, is Ricoh's. However, since that would slowly though surely mean the demise of Pentax as first high-end then other users drifted away, I'm not sure it makes any sense at all. Pentax has few enough users as it is, without upsetting the ones who buy all the lenses. Unless Ricoh's motive in buying Pentax wasn't to make something of Pentax but was to sort out Ricoh's own camera operation by, effectively, buying a fix in the form of turnover and expertise - something I've long suspected. But that is another story. Pass the sake please.

07-08-2013, 04:36 PM	#29
Tonto Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 969	Just to rustle up the feathers, how about a totally new mount for FF? Make it purpose made to have modular adapters to enable AF for a vas array of lenses. Super small updates of the FA ltds for the reduced register distance.

07-09-2013, 12:02 AM	#30
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Aristophanes Like the Olympus OM-D? It's shaped like a DSLR to accommodate the EVF along the central access and for ergonomics, and it is mirrorless being an m43. It's also quite expensive,especially relative to sensor size. Lovely camera, but not very good AF for the price IMO. Yes, exactly that, but with a larger sensor and a Pentax price. Originally posted by Tonto Just to rustle up the feathers, how about a totally new mount for FF? Make it purpose made to have modular adapters to enable AF for a vas array of lenses. Super small updates of the FA ltds for the reduced register distance. That would only make sense if it would actually solve an issue with the current K-mount. People here keep telling me that K-mount fully supports an FF sensor with IBIS. (I still don't believe them though.)