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09-03-2013, 03:20 PM   #286
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Doesn't the Foveon exhibit some really ugly artifacts when pushed past its limit, too? I've heard that it's great when used within the proper parameters but it makes for a harder to use camera.

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The proposed K-3 was never going to be Full Frame. The only reason some got confused is because of an April Fool joke posted in Pentax Forums. There is every reason to expect a flagship APS-C body in 2013, no reason that I've seen to expect a FF. There have been many hints from Ricoh and leakers about this.

The Foveon sensor is a non-starter because of poor noise performance.


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Samsung sensor?

Sony aside, Samsung has a very nice 20MP sensor with on board phase detect.
I don't know if they are sharing it but they were BFF with Pentax in the past.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
Doesn't the Foveon exhibit some really ugly artifacts when pushed past its limit, too? I've heard that it's great when used within the proper parameters but it makes for a harder to use camera.
The Foveon sensor in the DPMerrills has incredible resolution, but colors are said to be weak and noise levels above ISO 400 are quite high. There is no chance that a Foveon will be in a Pentax camera anytime soon.

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The Foveon sensor in the DPMerrills has incredible resolution, but colors are said to be weak and noise levels above ISO 400 are quite high. There is no chance that a Foveon will be in a Pentax camera anytime soon.

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I own a Sigma DP2 and DP3 Merrill, the quality is awesome, and it's no joke !
Colors are incredible, sharpness is crazy, it's advised to turn down sharpness when converting to jpeg, and it's corner to corner sharp.
BUT, you'll have to accept it's weaknesses, which are, VERY poor battery life (I have 8 of them), it's a slow camera, the SPP software to develop the Sigma raw files is slow too, you'll have to wait between 10 to 20 seconds to see your picture, even with a fast card, and it's adviced to shoot Raw.
I really adore these two little beasts ;-)

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As a professional shooter, I truly believe that Pentax is hobbling itself by this lack of a ff option... and I honestly cannot fathom what the hold up is.
I agree entirely.

I'm in the process of building a fledgling wedding photography business, and the lack of a truly professional system (and preferably FF) from Pentax is becoming an increasing concern for me. No-one wants to be trying to do a job with second-rate tools, and the current Pentax cameras are NOT professional tools.

I just want a workhorse professional camera / system. Preferably FF, and preferably Pentax. I can't really fathom why it's such an impossible undertaking for them either.

We'll know in a day or two, and then I'll have to make some (hopefully easy) decisions.
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Presumably, we at least got some attention from Photo Rumors :
Ricoh press conference at IFA scheduled for Thursday, September 5th
What happened to the Pentax 645 system?
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I agree entirely.

I'm in the process of building a fledgling wedding photography business, and the lack of a truly professional system (and preferably FF) from Pentax is becoming an increasing concern for me. No-one wants to be trying to do a job with second-rate tools, and the current Pentax cameras are NOT professional tools.

I just want a workhorse professional camera / system. Preferably FF, and preferably Pentax. I can't really fathom why it's such an impossible undertaking for them either.

We'll know in a day or two, and then I'll have to make some (hopefully easy) decisions.
I however think tools themselves, as they are now, can be used professionally. Maybe not for everything 100% dependably that comes to your mind, but for a great deal of photography, definitely.
You see, in all these we need to discern the perception others are forcing upon to us, and how well we understand the subject matter.

Main reason Pentax gear is not used widely as a professional tool is the lack of established service channels, lack of training outlets or workshops, very scarce presence in shops, where we can seriously try the equipment before pulling moolah out of our pockets.

FF absolutely isn't necessary for the job done; if the "FF look" is needed, then renting of a 645D for the occasion will more than suffice and surpass anyone's expectations.

The main attribute of a professional photog aren't amazing tools but amazing creativity of mind that help see beyond and above tools.
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Can it be new Pentax camera? )))

From page of Sole distributor of Pentax and Ricoh (Singapore)
No, it is a Nikon camera. See the red detail on the front of the grip...

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Hmm, it just occurred to me that the roadmap "standard zoom" has almost no wide angle reach with the current crop. I see that as a hint that a larger-sensor 645d will be released with these lenses
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I see that as a hint that a larger-sensor 645d will be released with these lenses
The KAF-40000 has an optical format of "645 1.3x", the KAF-50100 features "645 1.1x".
They are both based on the 6 micron CCD platform and share a common pin-out and electrical configuration, allowing a single camera design to support both members of this sensor family.
I did expect such a step already last year.
However, the sensor might be outdated now.
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1.1x (or 1x!) would be great. The crop factor is much more of an issue for the 645 system. The wide wideangle cost $5000 and weight over 1kg! There are far fewer lenses in the system as well with the potential of making your existing lenses more awkward and fewer cabdidates to replace or supplement them with.
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QuoteOriginally posted by VladimirYo Quote
Can it be new Pentax camera? )))

From page of Sole distributor of Pentax and Ricoh (Singapore)
To me it actually looks like they've placed one camera body behind the other, like they are comparing sizes or something.
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Hmm, it just occurred to me that the roadmap "standard zoom" has almost no wide angle reach with the current crop. I see that as a hint that a larger-sensor 645d will be released with these lenses
Or maybe not. With the current crop, 45-90 would correspond to about 35-70 in 35mm equivalents, wouldn't it?

We need leaks, I'm tired of those leeks.
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QuoteOriginally posted by froeschle Quote
Doesn't give any indication if this will be a pentax related announcement. It could just as easily be for compact cameras, or anything else really. It is a consumer electronics show afterall.
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QuoteQuote:
Doesn't give any indication if this will be a pentax related announcement.
Not yet, but let's wait until tomorrow .

But I agree, RICOH Press Conference featuring the new Pentax K-? would have been a better title .
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It is a consumer electronics show afterall.
And maybe even a complement to Photokina?




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